RX-8 or STi ?
#76
The STi is a nice ride and it was my first choice. This changed to an RX8 based on a few reasons that I had personally. I think the STi looks good but the rx8 simply looks better just my opinion. Besides that I don't plan on racing everywhere and attracting that racing crowd or ricer crowd on the roads. Been there done that, I simply wanted a nicer ride rather than a faster ride. I think the STi however is a very well built car with amazing power and handling off the showroom floor. It just wasn't for me though.
#77
Originally posted by Smack
The STi is a nice ride and it was my first choice. This changed to an RX8 based on a few reasons that I had personally. I think the STi looks good but the rx8 simply looks better just my opinion. Besides that I don't plan on racing everywhere and attracting that racing crowd or ricer crowd on the roads. Been there done that, I simply wanted a nicer ride rather than a faster ride. I think the STi however is a very well built car with amazing power and handling off the showroom floor. It just wasn't for me though.
The STi is a nice ride and it was my first choice. This changed to an RX8 based on a few reasons that I had personally. I think the STi looks good but the rx8 simply looks better just my opinion. Besides that I don't plan on racing everywhere and attracting that racing crowd or ricer crowd on the roads. Been there done that, I simply wanted a nicer ride rather than a faster ride. I think the STi however is a very well built car with amazing power and handling off the showroom floor. It just wasn't for me though.
Ike
#78
Whew! What a thread! I felt like I opened a can of worms here. Anyways, I have yet to test drive the STi (if they allow me). I have driven the RX-8 and I love the ride! Surprisingly, smooth for a car that corners flat to the ground. Kinda like the SRT-4 except for the amazing acceleration.
The only thing stopping me from getting the RX-8 is gas mileage. The power loss? I could probably live with it. And also, coming from a Toyota/Honda owner, I'm very cautious with Mazda's reliability. Subaru, however, has had a good track record with reliability. And the gas mileage on the STi is fair enough for what you would get in power.
I guess, until RX-8 makes sense about less power and high gas drainage, I will hold my money in the bank. I'm a practical person who likes to enjoy my car. RX-8 and STi have their points in turning me away.
I wish Toyota made a car that is as gorgeous as the RX-8 and as well-performing as the STi Instead, they came up with Scion; a prime insult to our generation. Yeah, they are targetting our generation (80's kids) with stupid cars coz they think we are stupid enough to buy them.
The only thing stopping me from getting the RX-8 is gas mileage. The power loss? I could probably live with it. And also, coming from a Toyota/Honda owner, I'm very cautious with Mazda's reliability. Subaru, however, has had a good track record with reliability. And the gas mileage on the STi is fair enough for what you would get in power.
I guess, until RX-8 makes sense about less power and high gas drainage, I will hold my money in the bank. I'm a practical person who likes to enjoy my car. RX-8 and STi have their points in turning me away.
I wish Toyota made a car that is as gorgeous as the RX-8 and as well-performing as the STi Instead, they came up with Scion; a prime insult to our generation. Yeah, they are targetting our generation (80's kids) with stupid cars coz they think we are stupid enough to buy them.
#79
The boxer engines are very strong and the tranny problem was with mostly the 02 WRXs, the STi has a totally different tranny and is much much stronger. You are also basing this on an article put out by an insurance company in the UK, look at consumer reports and Subaru reliability is almost on par with Honda in many cases.
This is an understatement. Although I don't care for Subaru's looks, their quality is VERY HIGH. I wouldn't rate any Japanese manufacturer higher and certainly not Mazda.
LIP
#80
You guys are insane. I've been around these boards for quite some time, my friend has an RX-8, and it's a pretty nice car all around.
What is this paranoia with driving a car that looks like it is a "high school kids car" when damn near all of you act like your 12.
Grow up a little, I've never "flamed" your car, and i respect it for what it is. But at least i KNOW what it is.
The STi is an amazing performance car, i (being a suby fan) would take it over damn near any car less than 60K.
I have a WRX that is FLAWLESS (minus some door dings ) The quality is top notch, as is the driving experience.
The argument to just buy american muscle for speed is lame, old, and inapplicable. Some people prefer a car that weighs ~3000 pounds, can take a turn nicely and can be good on the gas mileage, haul 3 other people around, have four doors, trunk space etc. SO THEY GET AN STi OR EVO, and STILL outaccelerate a lot of american muscle.
I don't flame your car, why can't you all show some respect and grow up some?
What is this paranoia with driving a car that looks like it is a "high school kids car" when damn near all of you act like your 12.
Grow up a little, I've never "flamed" your car, and i respect it for what it is. But at least i KNOW what it is.
The STi is an amazing performance car, i (being a suby fan) would take it over damn near any car less than 60K.
I have a WRX that is FLAWLESS (minus some door dings ) The quality is top notch, as is the driving experience.
The argument to just buy american muscle for speed is lame, old, and inapplicable. Some people prefer a car that weighs ~3000 pounds, can take a turn nicely and can be good on the gas mileage, haul 3 other people around, have four doors, trunk space etc. SO THEY GET AN STi OR EVO, and STILL outaccelerate a lot of american muscle.
I don't flame your car, why can't you all show some respect and grow up some?
Last edited by Shard; 10-22-2003 at 12:45 PM.
#87
Originally posted by RussellP
It seriously looks as though Subaru's designer took a crap and that crap designed the WRX.
It seriously looks as though Subaru's designer took a crap and that crap designed the WRX.
Now, I'm going to try and impress the "cool" crowd at my next high school reunion.
#88
Ok folks:
Not that we need yet another opinion, but I can't help myself...
I owned a WRX (my second Impreza) up until I traded it for the RX8 I got in July. Why did I trade? Performance numbers aside, I like the feel of the RX8 more. The sound, style, shifting, and driving dynamics. Plus, I'm a Rotary nut from way back.
I sure as hell wouldn't slam the WRX though; Subaru remains one of my favorites. The WRX I'm sure, was quicker in a straight line than the RX8, and more practical as well, since it was a wagon. And all-wheel-drive is nice in the snow, although I think the RX8 will do a decent job with snow tires fitted. In handling, I prefer the feel of the RX8, at least given that both cars are in their stock form.
As far as reliability, the WRX had numerous CEL's, fixed under warranty, and a juddering clutch, also finally replaced under warranty. Although I would hope any new car, even first allocation, shouldn't have problems like these, I know these things happen. In the long run, I think the WRX would have been a durable, minimum trouble car. So far, I've had no problems with the RX8, I think it will hold up fine in the long run as well.
I never thought the Sub was ugly, just funky looking. Most people who have seen my RX8 like the looks, but remember, beauty is subjective. I feel the RX8 is more refined than the standard WRX, but for ultimate performance, the STI sounds downright formidable!
People have their preferences; can't y'all just quit all this fussin' and'a feudin'? There is no such thing as THE best car.
Not that we need yet another opinion, but I can't help myself...
I owned a WRX (my second Impreza) up until I traded it for the RX8 I got in July. Why did I trade? Performance numbers aside, I like the feel of the RX8 more. The sound, style, shifting, and driving dynamics. Plus, I'm a Rotary nut from way back.
I sure as hell wouldn't slam the WRX though; Subaru remains one of my favorites. The WRX I'm sure, was quicker in a straight line than the RX8, and more practical as well, since it was a wagon. And all-wheel-drive is nice in the snow, although I think the RX8 will do a decent job with snow tires fitted. In handling, I prefer the feel of the RX8, at least given that both cars are in their stock form.
As far as reliability, the WRX had numerous CEL's, fixed under warranty, and a juddering clutch, also finally replaced under warranty. Although I would hope any new car, even first allocation, shouldn't have problems like these, I know these things happen. In the long run, I think the WRX would have been a durable, minimum trouble car. So far, I've had no problems with the RX8, I think it will hold up fine in the long run as well.
I never thought the Sub was ugly, just funky looking. Most people who have seen my RX8 like the looks, but remember, beauty is subjective. I feel the RX8 is more refined than the standard WRX, but for ultimate performance, the STI sounds downright formidable!
People have their preferences; can't y'all just quit all this fussin' and'a feudin'? There is no such thing as THE best car.
#89
No comparison.... I've driven the sti and driven in the rx-8 not to nock you guys car, but the sti owns it... no comparison! nicer interior and way, way better handling, If you are asking this question there is something wrong... the wrx would beat the rx-8 in all areas! the only reason i could se someone not liking the sti is b/c of the way it looks, and even then i really don't know why, i think they are both decent looking cars. But trust me you will not be dissapointed in the sti! it put a big smile on my face....:D
Test drive the sti, believe me there are dealers that will let you test drive it! you will not be dissapointed.
a few reasons i think the sti is a vastly superior car:
1. Loads of torque!
2. Rally proven handling and durability
3. You don't have to rev the bajesus out of the engine to make good power.
4. AWD
5. Good aftermarket folowing
6. One of the nicest car interiors i have ever seen!
7. Rare
8. It will put a smile on your face!
9. Super car like braking
10. Must I go on.....
Test drive the sti, believe me there are dealers that will let you test drive it! you will not be dissapointed.
a few reasons i think the sti is a vastly superior car:
1. Loads of torque!
2. Rally proven handling and durability
3. You don't have to rev the bajesus out of the engine to make good power.
4. AWD
5. Good aftermarket folowing
6. One of the nicest car interiors i have ever seen!
7. Rare
8. It will put a smile on your face!
9. Super car like braking
10. Must I go on.....
#90
Originally posted by revhappy
Yes, heaven forbid someone design a car based on function instead of superficial looks.
Yes, heaven forbid someone design a car based on function instead of superficial looks.
I want something that not only has performance, but looks like a work of art when its out on the road. So it may not have rally car performance, but then neither does your ten a penny look a likes in reality. It must also be such a pain to have to cover it in mud to bere to look at it.
Now all you Sabaru trolls run back to your own forum and worry about your mods and your 1/4 mile times, where you are safe from catching site of yourselves in any mirrors.
Cheers
---Dave
Last edited by druck; 10-22-2003 at 06:22 PM.
#92
My car is better!!!
No my car!!
No, my car!!
Your car sucks!!
No, your car sucks!!
You don't know ****!!
No, you don't know ****!!
Your car sucks!!
Yeah, your car sucks!!
No, your car sucks!!
......7 pages
YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY!!!
No my car!!
No, my car!!
Your car sucks!!
No, your car sucks!!
You don't know ****!!
No, you don't know ****!!
Your car sucks!!
Yeah, your car sucks!!
No, your car sucks!!
......7 pages
YOU GUYS ARE CRAZY!!!
#98
Originally posted by downshift
A picture is worth a thousand words:
A picture is worth a thousand words:
haha you beat me to it!
anyway, its painfully obvious if you care about speed, racing 1/4 mile, street and track days / auto x the STi is a much mucho more capable machine than an RX8.
The RX8 has a MUCH more stylized exterior and interior + a better balanced weight dist. and slightly lower weight, lighter feel.
end of story.
#100
Originally posted by RussellP
out of curiosity, how much does the Skyline cost? Sorry to change the subject, well get back to subaru bashing in a moment.
BTW, WRX nicer interior than RX8? Flat out factually wrong.
out of curiosity, how much does the Skyline cost? Sorry to change the subject, well get back to subaru bashing in a moment.
BTW, WRX nicer interior than RX8? Flat out factually wrong.