boizart1

So theres this guy that lives 3 blocks from my house that owns a '93 rx7 efini. The car is badass! So i stare at it just about everytime i drive by. Last week as I was at the light staring blasting music, I hear someone in the background screaming something at me. I turn and its some dude asking me if I wanna buy the car. Im not interested but ask how much just to see. $27,000. So I answer "na, already got my 8". "that one's slow you need to get a 3rd gen rx7". So this is not news exactly (that rx7's are superior to our cars in power). Why is this?!?!? Why would mazda make the new model less powerful than the old one?

Marklar

The FD is faster than an 8, but not by all that much. And the 8 handles better while having a better ride. And the 8 seats four. And has better gas mileage. Warrantees, even. It's a different car, and a newer car.

27k is ridiculous for an FD. Seriously, that guy is looking for a sucker.

PaQuiN

The RX7 is turbo'd to hell. And its more of a pure sports car than a daily driver sports car. If you put 2 turbo's on your RX8 you would have him eating dust. Even one...

superglue

The RX-8 is not the RX-7



That's why.

learycd

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rx8 FTW

FD for the dirft!

wonderful-life

RX7 is alot faster than RX8, my friend has one. Both cars have bad fuel economy and drinks oil. In the RX7 I understand why it has bad mpg and drinks oil, but in the RX8 I really really dont understand why the mpg is so low in a pretty slow car like the RX8.

alz0rz

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Just by the way you use the term "drinks oil" shows you don't know much about this engine..

wonderful-life

Well, you don't have to be a professor and use einstein terms to understand wankel engines. Simple as that, and yes in many european countries we express it that way "drinks oil"

m477

My last 8 used barely more oil than any piston car I've owned, so yeah, your "knowledge" is basically completely out of date. I'm guessing you've never owned a rotary.


Anyway, getting back on topic, it makes sense if you compare it to the relationship between the s2000 and Prelude.

The RX-7 is similar to the S2000, pure sports car, performance-oriented, not practical or comfortable. Expensive -- the touring model was mid $30k's in the early 90's, which is close to $50k in today's dollars.

The RX-8 is like a RWD Prelude. Decent performance, but also comfortable and practical, much better for long highway trips, and much cheaper to own.

8 Maniac

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There's really no reason to go with twin turbo's... with the correct setup there isnt really a need for it from what I gather.

They are different cars as other's said. The biggest reason the FD is faster? It has a turbo. The renesis is the highest output NA rotary from mazda. The FD only reaches the numbers it does because of the turbo.

It's not -that- much faster. It's a lot easier to mod and can be made a lot faster rather easy, but stock for stock, it's not -that- much faster. The 8 doent take that much oil... with the regular flashes I basically needed to add oil around the time I would do an oil change. With an AP tune I've needed more but it's still not that bad.

Like it was mentioned above... it's not fair to compare, they're really just different cars. The 2 extra doors should have been the give away (since some rx-7's had the rear seats...). Also, the 8 is not a hatch like the 7... the list goes on, but when you take a look, they definitely are not the same car.

LiTTleRX-8

Doesn't the FD weigh about some 300lbs less? Lower center of gravity? Smaller rims? Also better .cd?

Sleepy-z

Well the life span of the motor is about the same if not worse on the rx7 and you get a warranty with a rx8 for 8yrs/100k on a new one, that sorta would weigh in on my decision Personally if I had a daily driver I would be tempted to lean towards the rx7 but thats mostly because I loved them in my hs years. Your life your choice.

shipdriver

I just went from an FD to an RX-8. It's like going from a Corvette to a Porsche. I had a Touring model which weighed in at 2862 lbs. The rims are smaller (16x8), but with a 4.1 rear end ratio. The RX-8 is taller but their are some things about the 8 which I think give it a better polar moment (like the gas tank position which was way out at the back on the FD and the heavy twin turbo setup up front). The FD interior is much cheaper looking than the RX-8 and they tend to be rattle-traps and you will feel every bump in a way that you won't in an RX-8. That said, it will pull and pull and pull until you are at ridiculously illegal speeds (at least after the turbos kick in). I feel in general that the RX-8 handles better and is structurally stiffer (even with the suicide doors). Lastly, to afford maintaining an FD, Mazdaspeed Motorsports Development membership is of great value.

04RX8man

yeah the TT rx-7 is not too much faster than out NA motors and from what i've seen the 8's motors are lasting much longer alot of 7's u see with new motors at 30k to 50k miles or have LS1's in them! also 27k is a ridiculous amount for an rx7

RealXen8

I like shipdriver's comparison.
I had an RX7 and often thought of it as a fighter jet - light and agile with some serious pull.
The RX8 is more like a private jet - luxurious but still exhilarating.

Renesis07

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RX8 was never intended as the successor of the RX7

04RX8man

I'd rathr have the reliability of our motors over the 7 motors! From what i hear and have seen the renesis is tons better!

maskedferret

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I don't believe the RX-8 was ever meant to be a true successor to the RX-7 as so many people feel it was meant to be (hence all the "disappointing" comparisons between them). I see and hear this so often, and it irks me every time.

I would think one has to look at the previous RX models to realize this. The RX-3 for example was made in 3 body styles (per wikipedia); 2 door coupe, 4 door sedan, and 5 door station wagon. I am making a slight assumption here, but let's say the RX-(N+whatever) was meant to be the "successor" to the previous... then wouldn't Mazda probably make equivalent body styles for the successor? Granted, the RX-4 fits this theory; however, picture an RX-7 station wagon... mmm, no.

The real successor to the RX-7 (FD) would be a 4th gen. revision much like the first gen. RX-7 was succeeded by the second and so on.

FWIW if I recall, in the RX-8 book by Yamaguchi, the RX-8 was more likened to an RX-3.

Stavesacre21

A sucker? That guys lookin for a friggin MORON.

luckymike

The escudo was basically like a modded car, literally impossible to lose once you had that. Wasn't there a 7.5 million dollar minivan with 750HP or was that in GT2? I remember saving up to get it and it wasn't nearly as good as I thought it would be.b






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Kimura

Odd 11 year bump but we are now at the point where that asking price for the FD is not unheard of.

UnknownJinX

If an FD in good condition goes for 27k US nowadays, that's a steal.

Oh yeah and 11-year-old bump and all that...

CaymanRotary

As good as the FD is its not worth more than a good RX8 and $20k+ in my pocket.

UnknownJinX

That's a lot of JDM classics(and to be fair, a lot of classics in general) for you. Very overpriced.

CaymanRotary

Its a collector car now. Mint FD's with low miles are $50k+. Not practical to own unless you are wealthy or already had one.