Man, if people thought the two million posts about dino vs synthetic oil was crazy, just open this up to politics. I could give you a thousand reasons why George Bush is horrible and people who like him can give a thousand reasons why he is great. I guess history will tell the story.

 

i like blue!!!

beers

 

I'm not suggesting that he's great by any means, just pointing out that he and his administration are hardly responsible for the "destabilized" Middle East. That region has NEVER been stable... Not now, not 6 years ago, not a hundred years ago, not a thousand years ago. Our current adventure (or misadventure) in that region hasn't helped one iota, but blaming the Bush administration for the ills of the ME is worthy of a chuckle.

 

no,
i really like blue.

beers

 

The beers idea is good and it has some ethanol too.

 

I know the level of acceptance of E85 is different in Sweden and North America. In Sweden there is a program that 2007 all petrol stations will be equipped with E85. We have cars that are made for both normal fuel and E85, and guess what: When running on E85 you get 15-20% MORE hp. The reason for this is that the E85 properties allow much more agressive tuning. I dont know the details but check out the SAAB 9-5 BioPower and you will see the numbers for yourselves. Conclusion: Blaming E85 for lower HP is BS.

Of course this comes at a price, milage. Also StewC625 claimed it was a negative source of energy and i have no evidence claiming the otherwise. Point is this is a new way of refining fuel. Lets at least try to turn it around by refining the process instead of simply scrapping the idea right out of the box. Heck, back when cars first came they would have cheered over the RX-8 milage. Then again who would care since gas was plentiful then.

The whole idea comes down to having a renewable source that will not add more CO2 to the atmosphere. The idea is when growing the biomass it will consume as much CO2 as burning it will produce, hence we are keeping it to a closed system rather than adding more CO2 which will increase the greenhouse effect etc (i wonder if that one is proven to affect global warming though. Last i heard there were sunspot corrolation to the global warming... anyways)

If we can refine the process of creating E85 we could even fuel that process with E85 and of course biomass. Then it would just use the large fields this world is equipped with rather than leftover dinos and we have infinite fuel. That would take away the need for oil (hence less wars, Bush only goes to war for oil... liberate people?! Hah, Oil!) and since it would be so plentiful price would go down. Of course the milage is still there so we would have to fuel up more often but the total sum of it would cost would be less. (After 10-15 years or so when the market powers have adjusted)

 

Are there any states/regions where 10% ethanol is not currently required to be sold?

Anyone know of a practical means to separate ethanol from the gasoline?