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The owner of the car I just picked up said that Mazda quoted him $6k several years back, so he has just left the car sitting for the past few years. Still fires up quickly and runs good. I am not even convinced its the compression.

Another local said Mazda charges $6700 now.

nycgps

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well, it depends on what was included in the original 6K quote, they might include new coils and plugs into the price, which sounds about right couple yrs ago.

now, I'm sure it's 6.7K with just engine.

85rx-7gsl-se

Too rich for my blood.

Klaros

tell me about it !! I was thinking the same thing

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Klaros

6.7k??? and in over here complaining about 3.3k!! well I love my 8 but idk about 6.7k love

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j9fd3s

labor to change the engine is 10-14 hours.

plus you need a clutch, spark plugs, coolant, oil, oil filter, and whatever else

Klaros

^^^vert true I was not taking into account everything else, im thinking of going to mazda and just ordering an engine now before they bump it up more (if they do)

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Klaros

it would not hurt the engine to buy it and have it stored would it?

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nycgps

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you will see rust, cuz they used straight tap water to do leak test, it's a well known stupid thing about Mazda japan, and Mazda Reman plant. the reman i bought already have signs of rust around the water pump housing outlet area, shouldn't be too much of a problem for another year or so, but when I install it, I'll make sure I flush n fill with pure distilled at least twice before I will even put coolant mix into it.

other than that, everything seems fine.

RIWWP

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I wouldn't trust a reman enough to buy one on my own dime and not have it torn down and re-inspected before installation.

But that's just me.

nycgps

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once the last engine's warranty is over, which should be year 2016 (cuz 2009+ has no engine warranty extension, correct me if wrong), then they probably gonna stop making it.

but who knows? I mean you can still order the 3rd Gen engine right now I think, and it will come from the plant cuz it's more like a build-to-order thing, it will say it's a reman but it's 100% new parts.

nycgps

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I wanted to tear it down, I even have a spare set of Gasket and O-ring set, just don't have the time to do that, wish me luck

RIWWP

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MazdaUSA > MyMazda > Warranty
That tells me Series2 is covered.

nycgps

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then make it 2019, but that's really for S2, S1 will stop at 2016 still

even at 4K, a Reman engine is still NOT THAT BAD ... at least mine was alright, seems to have all new housings and iron, I'm not complainting let's just hope that it was not built at a Friday afternoon ...

Carbon8

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I paid less than that for my Pettit motor, including shipping. Also isn't a rebuild from RR right around there.

IMO 2K was the right price for a remain, they are not worth more than that.

nycgps

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they probably got it before the price hike. that's why it's cheaper.

most builders used to get engines from Mazda, break it down and re-do it, cuz u get lots of new parts so all u really need to do is make sure stuff is within spec, a set of O-ring set will be able to put it back together , turn around time should be less than a day.

but expect price to increase tho, cuz the cheap engine-for-parts days are now over,

they call it a Reman cuz they can't call it brand new unless it's rolled off Mazda's assembly line in Japan, but if it's really just a bunch of new parts like 3rd Gen engines are, I really don't see a problem with the price they're charging. we heard some horror stories here sure but, my engine was a reman and it's running just fine, so let's see how it goes.

Carbon8

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I suppose, I would rather get an engine that I wont have to worry about DOA and from a reputable source. I have heard to many bad stories regarding remains. Yes its not all but still with the stories out there I can't fathom justifying spending as much for a remain as an RR build.

RIWWP

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nycgps, the number of remans that are either completely DOA or fail within 10,000 miles from a coolant seal problem that was clearly a build quality problem is too apparent to me. The tear down pics that RR has posted from fresh remans that fail really early are rather horrific with the sealant just tossed around without much quality to it.

Klaros

wow guys thanks am getting all sorts of info here, and its really nice to be able to hear opinions from multiple points if views, so once they finaly stop making our engines am sure the prices are going thru the roof and rebuild would be the best option right?

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Carbon8

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I don't see parts be coming more expensive for at least the next 6-8 years.

Everyone is up in arms about the latest new from Mazda, yet we can still get are hands on REW, 20B, 26B parts and they are far rarer than Renesis.

IMO it will be much harder the find an 8 to put an engine in then it will be to find an engine, will all the high milage 8's and number that get totaled every year.

And if by some chance I am wrong, you can still slam an LS in it an be done

Klaros

I hope you are rigjt lol thats what the guz at mazds told me last year when the engines were 2k a pop and now look less than a year later they are more than a thousand bucks more!! as to your theory about be8ng harder to find an 8 to put a engine in I agree with you 100 percent, now I dont beleive they will be any where close to being as rare as rx7 but they sure will be hard to come by

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nycgps

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I know i saw those too,yea it's kinda bad, I think the reason why there were so many coolant failures was bcuz those guys never paid attention when they stack the housings up, those stock coolant seals for some reasons like to flip around in their slot, and at the reman plant I doubt they use stuff like hylomar to hold the seal in place , think about it, it flips a little even with sticky crap like hylomar, so if they actually follows the FSM to build their engines with VASELINE ...

when the seal flips, meaning the telfon side is not facing the edge of the housing(not facing the heat source/coolant), if it's filpped, the rubber in the center can't survive heat for too long.

this is the part I don't get Mazda, why are they still using some damn decades ago technology, I mean after all these years(starting 13b-msp) they finally updated the oil control ring seal material to viton. took them decades to do it .... in the old days, that rubber crap always crack/breaks after just a few yrs, result in massive oil leak. Viton pretty much got rid of that problem.

but ... they still don't update the coolant seal part. seriously, wtf ?

as for the silicone ... well ... they did put a little too much of that

if anything I will just break it apart and do it myself, doesn't take that long really.

nycgps

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well, might not be engine parts but a lot of rx7 parts are already NLA, and 20B/26B stuff are also no longer being make. they're pretty much selling whatever they have, once it's gone, it's done.

8 engine parts will be around for a while, just not a complete engine assembly.

pistonhater

At the new price range for a reman from the dealer I would definitely go with a trusted aftermarket builder instead.

j9fd3s

this is actually the upside of the whole thing. when the factory engine was $2k the aftermarket guys can't compete, but now the factory engine is $1000 more, so now the after market people are much more competitive