RX8 OR Lexus IS300
01-08-2004, 09:34 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
1.) Many many cars will get more HP than your IS will with a chip.
2.) Torque will not make a car pull harder or faster, get a clue.
3.) It's hardly clean looking, it has a chrome grill and the tailights make me want to puke.
4.) I've driven the IS300, it's a nice car but it gets a big yawn from me.
5.) You threw the first stone and several others after that, so don't back down with this "if you don't have anything nice to say" nonsense.
6.) I wouldn't let you anywhere near my car, some 2 year tech college certificate that says you can change oil for a living hardly makes you an expert, and you ignorance in this thread proves that.
7.) The IS300 and the RX-8 are not a close match, your car is heavier, slower, and doesn't handle as well. I've seen 60' times for the IS, and you do not have any advantage on the launch, if anything you have a disadvantage due to weight.
8.) I hope english is your second language.
1.) Many many cars will get more HP than your IS will with a chip.
2.) Torque will not make a car pull harder or faster, get a clue.
3.) It's hardly clean looking, it has a chrome grill and the tailights make me want to puke.
4.) I've driven the IS300, it's a nice car but it gets a big yawn from me.
5.) You threw the first stone and several others after that, so don't back down with this "if you don't have anything nice to say" nonsense.
6.) I wouldn't let you anywhere near my car, some 2 year tech college certificate that says you can change oil for a living hardly makes you an expert, and you ignorance in this thread proves that.
7.) The IS300 and the RX-8 are not a close match, your car is heavier, slower, and doesn't handle as well. I've seen 60' times for the IS, and you do not have any advantage on the launch, if anything you have a disadvantage due to weight.
8.) I hope english is your second language.
What makes you the expert? a magazine, and a two college isnt all i have for acert. thank you very much. i drag race on the side too, been around this stuff since i was born because my father build races motor that put out 1100 hp with 1258 tq just for his toys, and yes you dont know what the hell your talking about mr. smarty pants.
i didnt dish out the first rude name calling.
and yes that is what car companies do to magazines, and your right they did do that to my car. but do i care? no, im not saying that the times are right for my car too. all im saying for every car they are wrong.
No i dont have any mods done to my car, is a ******* lexus that i drive everyday, i put my monmey in to my camaro since that thing has way more power than all of your cars. as for the wrx yeah that thing is fast. my best friend used to have one and beat the sh*t out of it with my camaro, in the handleing catorgory too becuase mine is lowered with the ploy bushing and bigger sways.
but i got probs to ya on the car they are sick for the money. just becareful with that because it takes a lot to set of an air bag, my friend hit 8 trees with his and totaled the car and not one air bag went off. pretty scary
Also, my english sucks, tell me something i dont know.
01-08-2004, 09:39 PM
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one more thing, do some research on what really makes the car haul ***. i can promise it isnt hp. you need to get your facts straight? and if you dont beleive me ask someone who actually works on race motors or actually is really into drag racing.
For purposes of this discussion, we need to measure units of force from rotating objects such as crankshafts, so we'll use terms which define a *twisting* force, such as foot pounds of torque. A foot pound of torque is the twisting force necessary to support a one pound weight on a weightless horizontal bar, one foot from the fulcrum.
check out this link for all you smarty pants that think hp is what makes your car. http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html
For purposes of this discussion, we need to measure units of force from rotating objects such as crankshafts, so we'll use terms which define a *twisting* force, such as foot pounds of torque. A foot pound of torque is the twisting force necessary to support a one pound weight on a weightless horizontal bar, one foot from the fulcrum.
check out this link for all you smarty pants that think hp is what makes your car. http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html
01-08-2004, 09:41 PM
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First of all, from a driver's perspective, torque, to use the vernacular, RULES :-). Any given car, in any given gear, will accelerate at a rate that *exactly* matches its torque curve (allowing for increased air and rolling resistance as speeds climb). Another way of saying this is that a car will accelerate hardest at its torque peak in any given gear, and will not accelerate as hard below that peak, or above it. Torque is the only thing that a driver feels, and horsepower is just sort of an esoteric measurement in that context. 300 foot pounds of torque will accelerate you just as hard at 2000 rpm as it would if you were making that torque at 4000 rpm in the same gear, yet, per the formula, the horsepower would be *double* at 4000 rpm. Therefore, horsepower isn't particularly meaningful from a driver's perspective, and the two numbers only get friendly at 5252 rpm, where horsepower and torque always come out the same.
01-08-2004, 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by DoWnAqT@aol.com
check out this link for all you smarty pants that think hp is what makes your car. http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html
check out this link for all you smarty pants that think hp is what makes your car. http://vettenet.org/torquehp.html
you keep owning yourself like this, I won't have to say a word anymore
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01-08-2004, 11:19 PM
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looks what hes comparing buddy, top speed as in salt flats. if your gonna go that fast. have fun. but it does say torque is what you feel and what makes your car take off
01-08-2004, 11:29 PM
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Originally posted by DoWnAqT@aol.com
looks what hes comparing buddy, top speed as in salt flats. if your gonna go that fast. have fun. but it does say torque is what you feel and what makes your car take off
looks what hes comparing buddy, top speed as in salt flats. if your gonna go that fast. have fun. but it does say torque is what you feel and what makes your car take off
either you're really good at reading this article out of context, or you just lack reading comprehension skill.
maybe learn how to read?
01-09-2004, 01:13 AM
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I think it's funny how you stopped talking about your mighty IS300 and now have moved on to the Camaro... What, did you realize the IS300 can't hang?
Forcedinduction: HP=(Torque)(RPM)/5252
DoWNwhoziewhatzit: Yes that would be the forumla to figure out torque
Forced Induction: You mean HP
DoWn: Yup
Classic!
By the way, I never said I was an expert, but I've been racing for about as long as you've been alive. Lastly, metal shop in HS + your 2 year tech college certificate still doesn't make you an expert.
Forcedinduction: HP=(Torque)(RPM)/5252
DoWNwhoziewhatzit: Yes that would be the forumla to figure out torque
Forced Induction: You mean HP
DoWn: Yup
Classic!
By the way, I never said I was an expert, but I've been racing for about as long as you've been alive. Lastly, metal shop in HS + your 2 year tech college certificate still doesn't make you an expert.
01-09-2004, 01:37 AM
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LOL!
Technically, it would seem that the formula could be reversed to calculate torque too, ie torque = (HP*5252)/RPM, but still funny.
"DoWNwhoziewhatzit, DoWnIQ"
Forcedinduction: HP=(Torque)(RPM)/5252
DoWNwhoziewhatzit: Yes that would be the forumla to figure out torque
Forced Induction: You mean HP
DoWn: Yup
Classic!
Forcedinduction: HP=(Torque)(RPM)/5252
DoWNwhoziewhatzit: Yes that would be the forumla to figure out torque
Forced Induction: You mean HP
DoWn: Yup
Classic!
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