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Old 09-26-2007, 09:40 AM
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Maple Shade Mazda is continuing to give me the run-around. I pleaded my case, plain as day, with indisputable evidence that they seriously Fucked up, and the Service Manager, Carlo Giannotti - without mentioning names...starts to give me the story that his manager is the one to make the decision to swap out the engine, but he is out of town and he most likely wont get back to him until he gets back from his trip. He also keeps referring to the fact that I'm out of warranty, and doesn't think that there is anything that he can do. Big ******* deal I thought...a recall is a recall! Thats right, he doesn't think, I thought to myself.

His managers name is Dominic DeCaprio...I wish i could call him myself and make everything better! I say this because I called Carlo this morning and he said that he has heard of anything yet...He says it like i want his big fat **** up my ***! But he is doing everything he can...and not to worry.

I don't know what to do, and I'm getting so frustrated...please help!
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recall is a recall....

recalls are done because they know there is a problem/defect... they should warrant defective workmanship if your car is in or out of "warranty".
Old 09-26-2007, 10:13 AM
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thats why people call them "stealerships" and refuse to go to them.

if i had a rotary mechanic in the d.c. area (mm should have opened his own shop) i would go exclusively there.
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Originally Posted by champi0n
recall is a recall....

recalls are done because they know there is a problem/defect... they should warrant defective workmanship if your car is in or out of "warranty".
+1

Allow me to repeat.

a Recall is a Recall. Dealership does NOT have the right to say No.

How about this, you can call this a *gap hole* in the system. but too bad, thats how it is. they should replace the engine for free

and look at the invoice again, are they trying to sell you a Brand new engine including labor for 5.7 K or a Reman ?

if its new, then the price is alright

but if they're talking about Reman, wow, they are trying to rip you OFF, BIG time.

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Old 09-27-2007, 08:57 AM
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thats why i sold mine, as much as it hurt me, I knew I couldnt afford a new engine with the warranty gone good luck man
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To me it looks like he (or someone) had the engine recall done at one time and the engine passed. As part of the recall they replaced his plugs. Now he has a failed engine at 91,000 miles and wants a new engine from Mazda. Don't see where he has any chance of that happening.
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Originally Posted by Ericok
To me it looks like he (or someone) had the engine recall done at one time and the engine passed. As part of the recall they replaced his plugs. Now he has a failed engine at 91,000 miles and wants a new engine from Mazda. Don't see where he has any chance of that happening.
how could it pass if it didn't even start? ...idle a few revolutions and stall...the diagnostic recommend driving it for a few miles....Good luck with that...I hope they had a few strong guys in the shop to push...

thanks but, I don't think what you were saying was the case this time, Ericok.
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Move on?

What about taking it to another dealership and explaining what happened!?! Do you think that they would help me?


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get a LS-1 engine...400hp for $5000....the question is how to fit it in there :P...if rx7 can do it...maybe rx8 can too
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Originally Posted by rcpilotp51
how could it pass if it didn't even start? ...idle a few revolutions and stall...the diagnostic recommend driving it for a few miles....Good luck with that...I hope they had a few strong guys in the shop to push...

thanks but, I don't think what you were saying was the case this time, Ericok.
So let me get this right, once your car didn't run anymore they did the "recall" in the parking lot and replaced the sparkplugs?

Maybe you should hit up zoom44, he has some good numbers to call.
Old 09-28-2007, 06:46 AM
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So let me get this right, once your car didn't run anymore they did the "recall" in the parking lot and replaced the sparkplugs?

Maybe you should hit up zoom44, he has some good numbers to call.
You got it right! They pushed it into the bay! Makes me sick just thinking about it.
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dude, that sucks. are all dealars like this one. if they are and i knew it ahead of time i probably wouldnt have gotten this car....ok i lied i love it too much. but still that is prety retarded
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RX7-1...em140161403678

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-1...em290164242277

hahaha...this should do the trick for ya...

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Old 10-01-2007, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tskeltonPGA

Thanks man for your help...i really dont know what i should do at this point.
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If you haven't called MNAO about this situation that's your next step. If you have called MNAO then you really need to consult a lawyer. I don't know the laws well enough to say for sure, but I seriously doubt it's legal for them to try to make you pay for work that's part of a recall at any mileage. This recall is from last summer - fall depending on location, and some didn't get mail about it until late fall. It's not like you waited 2 years after the recall was published.
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Old 02-01-2008, 09:23 AM
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Hey guys!

Click the link below to see how you can help me.

Thanks

https://www.fundable.com/groupaction...20.4666984531/

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let me understand the sequence better.

the car stalled
took to dealer
dealer found it flooded
dealer found low compression
they deflooded it
replaced spark plugs

is that right? if so have they re run the compression after deflooding it and replacing the plugs or not? also did they do a compression test OR a vacuum check as described in the RECALL
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Originally Posted by rcpilotp51
.so i took it to the dealer where i received the above invoice. at that time i had 90,541 miles on the car. (on a previous post i meant to say 91k sorry- but when i bought the car i did get a 10,000 mile warranty at about 74-76k)

Now its sitting in a mechanics lot waiting for a new engine.
wait - it stalled and they gave you this




is that right?

quit putting your online store in your post and sig or im going to think you are making this all up to sell stuff and ban you.
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Interested in who this is going to work out...

Where did you buy the car? If from a Mazda dealer they should have done the recall before selling it to you...
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oh hahah Maple Shade Mazda- we've seen problems with them before right?
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yeah...thats pretty much it....sorry about the sig (don't have an online store anymore). This is as real as it gets though...I miss my 8.

I got the car from a maple shade mazda affiliate (Richardson Imports - turnersville, Nj), but went to get the work done at maple shade mazda.


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Originally Posted by rcpilotp51
I got the car from a maple shade mazda affiliate (Richardson Imports - turnersville, Nj), but went to get the work done at maple shade mazda.


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Sounds like a shady deal..

Sorry, couldn't resist...
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ok well then the whole thing makes no sense-

the invoice says "suggest replace engine" right above "4206f" which is the recall work- if they followed the recall procedures and found no compression then THEY HAVE TO REPLACE THE ENGINE as per the Recall.

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...60&postcount=7

8. Did you experience any of the following during the test drive?

YES – Engine replacement required, complete ENGINE REPLACEMENT PARTS ORDER FORM and refer
to PARTS INFORMATION section for engine ordering process.
Since they suggest replacing the engine - THEY MUST KNOW IT HAS A PROBLEM. therefor they have to replace it.

OR

After deflooding it they ran the compression check AGAIN and found it had good compression. This can happen since the flooding washes away the oil from teh seals. once the flooding is dealt with compression returns. if this is the case get tehm to GIVE YOU A COPY OF THE COMPRESSION TEST NUMBERS IN WRITING. and ask them why they want you to pay for a new motor if yours is actually fine. if they say its not fine then ITS COVERED UNDER THE RECALL
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I def agree...

Yeah thats my whole argument....


well i have an appointment with a lawyer on 2/12. I'm keeping my fingers crossed.


Zoom,

sorry for posting a link in a couple threads...its just i know a few people who subscribe to each and rather than sending a bunch of pms i posted the link...I'm not trying to spam, sorry for the confusion.

I'm just asking for help here because, you guys understand what im going through.

My deepest appologies. from now on if people want to help, in any way...advice, questions, anything....just pm me. I enjoy the forum and dont want to get kicked.

thanks for reading. thanks for your help and concern.

I have plenty more documentation if anyone is interested.


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