Series II Spacer Questions
11-29-2010, 10:08 PM
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Series II Spacer Questions
Sorry I keep starting threads, but I got a job and I want to take advantage of my 8's potential. I posted this in another section, but it got no hits. Anyway...
Alright, so I hate the way the stock wheels tuck so far into the fenders, but I don't have the cash for a set of new wheels just yet, so I am considering running some spacers. I've searched around the forums, but I've only found threads regarding Series I's with spacers.
My main question is what kind of offset do the stock SII wheels need to be flush. The SI wheels need about 25mm, but I don't want to just assume SII are the same and have problems with rubbing, or the wheel sticking out past the fender. I'm thinking 20mm should be fine, because I don't want to roll the fenders.
Next question is, are the stock (Sport) 18" wheels hollow or solid on the inside? I don't want my stock studs to rub the inside of the wheel and have to shave off threads, so I'd have to go with 25mm spacers to avoid clearance issues. Unless the wheels are hollow.
Last thing, I'm going to lower the car with some Tein's soon. Will the tires rub if they are sitting flush, or should it be fine? I forget which Tein's they are, but the lower ones, which I think are S Tech with a 1.5/0.8 drop.
Does anyone have experience with spacers? How would you say the handling changed? Is the car more stable and prone to understeer, or quicker and more prone to oversteer?
Thanks.
Alright, so I hate the way the stock wheels tuck so far into the fenders, but I don't have the cash for a set of new wheels just yet, so I am considering running some spacers. I've searched around the forums, but I've only found threads regarding Series I's with spacers.
My main question is what kind of offset do the stock SII wheels need to be flush. The SI wheels need about 25mm, but I don't want to just assume SII are the same and have problems with rubbing, or the wheel sticking out past the fender. I'm thinking 20mm should be fine, because I don't want to roll the fenders.
Next question is, are the stock (Sport) 18" wheels hollow or solid on the inside? I don't want my stock studs to rub the inside of the wheel and have to shave off threads, so I'd have to go with 25mm spacers to avoid clearance issues. Unless the wheels are hollow.
Last thing, I'm going to lower the car with some Tein's soon. Will the tires rub if they are sitting flush, or should it be fine? I forget which Tein's they are, but the lower ones, which I think are S Tech with a 1.5/0.8 drop.
Does anyone have experience with spacers? How would you say the handling changed? Is the car more stable and prone to understeer, or quicker and more prone to oversteer?
Thanks.
11-29-2010, 10:12 PM
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Does the 25 you have rub at all with the stockers?
11-30-2010, 09:34 AM
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That said, if you typically drive with heavy set passengers then you will rub.
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11-30-2010, 11:05 AM
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Honestly it shouldn't matter between the series I and series II. The suspension is pretty much the same. I did rub in the rear slightly when I am off camber and had a full load but that was rare. Running 25mm spacers will put you at a 18 x 8 +25. Plenty of series II's have run 18 x 9 +30 wheels without rubbing or needing a fender roll.
That said, if you typically drive with heavy set passengers then you will rub.
That said, if you typically drive with heavy set passengers then you will rub.
11-30-2010, 11:20 AM
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I did a ton of reserach and could not find a single case of a spacers failing and causing any accidents or a wheel to fall off, etc. Spacers are commonly used in many high load off road situations and are commonly used on vintage racing. A lot of the hating and negative opinions and **** talking towards spacers are by people who have never run them and have no real experience with them. Think of the stress and off road vehicle puts on the wheels and hubs when rock crawling. Jeeps and other vehicles often run 2" spacers.
I ran them for a long time, did several canyon runs, etc. and they performed flawlessly. Just make sure you get an alignment after installing them to minimize tire wear.
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11-30-2010, 11:23 AM
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Nope, I had Eibachs and generics and both used grade 8 hardware. I also mistakenly bought a set of H&R spacers with the wrong hub bore and they were all the same in terms of apparent quality and hardware. Just make sure you torque them to factory lug nut spec and you will be fine.
I did a ton of reserach and could not find a single case of a spacers failing and causing any accidents or a wheel to fall off, etc. Spacers are commonly used in many high load off road situations and are commonly used on vintage racing. A lot of the hating and negative opinions and **** talking towards spacers are by people who have never run them and have no real experience with them.
I ran them for a long time, did several canyon runs, etc. and they performed flawlessly. Just make sure you get an alignment after installing them to minimize tire wear.
I did a ton of reserach and could not find a single case of a spacers failing and causing any accidents or a wheel to fall off, etc. Spacers are commonly used in many high load off road situations and are commonly used on vintage racing. A lot of the hating and negative opinions and **** talking towards spacers are by people who have never run them and have no real experience with them.
I ran them for a long time, did several canyon runs, etc. and they performed flawlessly. Just make sure you get an alignment after installing them to minimize tire wear.
11-30-2010, 11:30 AM
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I am on Tein S techs. Honestly I did not feel a huge change in handling but I have to admit I went on the Texas8 cruise not too long after installing the spacers and the car seemed to have handled better with the wider trac. I actually meant to remove them for that run because I was nervous about how it would affect the car at the limit but I didn't and i was pleasantly surprised.Honestly I really can't say anything bad about my spacer experience and I will be running 10mm spacers up front with my Volks to push them out slightly.
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11-30-2010, 12:21 PM
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Did you read my thread? I am on Tein S techs. Honestly I did not feel a huge change in handling but I have to admit I went on the Texas8 cruise not too long after installing the spacers and the car seemed to have handled better with the wider trac. I actually meant to remove them for that run because I was nervous about how it would affect the car at the limit but I didn't and i was pleasantly surprised.
Honestly I really can't say anything bad about my spacer experience and I will be running 10mm spacers up front with my Volks to push them out slightly.
I am on Tein S techs. Honestly I did not feel a huge change in handling but I have to admit I went on the Texas8 cruise not too long after installing the spacers and the car seemed to have handled better with the wider trac. I actually meant to remove them for that run because I was nervous about how it would affect the car at the limit but I didn't and i was pleasantly surprised.Honestly I really can't say anything bad about my spacer experience and I will be running 10mm spacers up front with my Volks to push them out slightly.
11-30-2010, 01:44 PM
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11-30-2010, 02:13 PM
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Holes all the way through, or just empty spaces that aren't visible from the outside?
11-30-2010, 02:29 PM
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11-30-2010, 03:56 PM
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I did. I've seen both of those pictures and even the pics someone linked to another site that showed 15mm spacers.
I was asking him if his winter wheels had holes all the way through or just cavities in the back. Some wheels have 10 stud holes, despite being for a 5 lug application.
I was asking him if his winter wheels had holes all the way through or just cavities in the back. Some wheels have 10 stud holes, despite being for a 5 lug application.
