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Old 04-13-2006 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by NgoRX8
sound is wave vibrations. And there doesn't need to be anyone hearing/feeling it because it is there nonetheless.
Depends on what a "sound" is. You could consider a "sound" to be a wave vibration as processed by a human's brain, or, it is merely a "wave vibration," like the wiggling of a rope. If the question was, "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there, does it make a wave vibration in the air" then one would have to say yes. But a "sound" might require the receiver to interpret it. An alien that has no sense of hearing might consider the "sound" of an electric guitar, or a violin, or a piano to be as inconsequential as the wave vibrations produced by a wiggling rope, but because we process the wave vibrations from them in a way that evokes emotion, brings back memories, etc., we consider them attractive "sounds."

Maybe the guy is losing his hearing. The beep is pretty high pitched.

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Old 04-13-2006 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tekk's 8
The beep is loud enough.
wait i see no exhaust or cat mods in you sig.... i think the best idea would be to have the beep adjustable.

this would be much more usefull than being able to turn one and off the button beeps on the headunit...

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Old 04-13-2006 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Ike
Or Molson, or Moosehead, they have just as many bad beers as we do and not as many good ones. Some beers from Dieu du Ciel and Unibroue are about all that stand out from Canada, other than that nothing special and you can find many better beers from the US and other parts of the world. Hell, if you're going to drink Unibroue you might as well just drink something better from Belgium.

This thread has officially been hi-jacked by a beer snob!
wow,

something i feel that i can comment about with knowledge...

no such thing as bad beer unless the beer has gone bad...

it is about preferences. any given day any beer will be the right beer with the right taste to suite someones needs.

we all like different things in beer and life. so one persons miller light = someone elses oatmeal stout.

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Old 04-13-2006 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Brandon
Depends on what a "sound" is. You could consider a "sound" to be a wave vibration as processed by a human's brain, or, it is merely a "wave vibration," like the wiggling of a rope. If the question was, "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there, does it make a wave vibration in the air" then one would have to say yes. But a "sound" might require the receiver to interpret it. An alien that has no sense of hearing might consider the "sound" of an electric guitar, or a violin, or a piano to be as inconsequential as the wave vibrations produced by a wiggling rope, but because we process the wave vibrations from them in a way that evokes emotion, brings back memories, etc., we consider them attractive "sounds."
Balderdash. Sound is vibrations in the air. Things exist in reality, and then sensory organs detect them. If a light shines in the forest and there's no one to see it, the light is still there, the photons don't somehow unexist because there's no retina to fall on, no brain to interpret the image. If the bear ***** in the woods and there's nobody there to smell it, the odor is still there, it's particles in the air whether there's a nose around or not. That our brains interpret these sounds/sights/smells doesn't change the fact that they are interpreting something that was there to begin with. That an alien might interpret differently also doesn't change the nature of existence.
Old 04-13-2006 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 9291150
Beer snob Ike? You said you were some sort of wine buyer, so you should be the first to know that every country stockpiles alcohol that is relative to the preferences of the majority. Americans, on average, like beers that are light on taste, with less bitterness, less body.

Canadians on average love flavour...but not even as much as the English. This is why most of our beer is better. All bars here have full bodied strong flavoured beers. Last summer as an example, I was at a rally in Ohio that had a full selection...of watered down American beer and nothing else

No matter, though maybe its your flat beer that leads to your constant 8 bashing.

Nonsense, Budweiser is the #1 selling beer in Canada. If you went some place in the US and they didn't have a good beer selection it's because you went to the wrong place, not because the US doesn't have good beer. I can't recall the last time I went somewhere and couldn't find at least an acceptable beer, even chain restaurants have a decent selection nowadays. Hell, even the Fridays a couple miles away from my house has over 40 beers on tap.


P.S. When you drink several wines every day for a living you don't exactly look forward to getting home and having a nice glass of wine
Old 04-13-2006 | 05:50 AM
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Old 04-13-2006 | 08:50 AM
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I think this car should beep at you when you shift under 6k....

It should have been installed by the oil companies.
Old 04-13-2006 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Brandon
An alien that has no sense of hearing might consider the "sound" of an electric guitar, or a violin, or a piano to be as inconsequential as the wave vibrations produced by a wiggling rope, but because we process the wave vibrations from them in a way that evokes emotion, brings back memories, etc., we consider them attractive "sounds."
inconsequential isn't the same thing as non-exsistant. Also, lacking the sensory ability to detect something, doesn't invalidate it's existence. single celled organisms. i can't see them. can't touch them. hear them, smell them or taste them, but everyone knows that they exist. we have to use tools to be able to detect them, but they are still there, and would still be there even if the tools to see them never existed.

same with xrays. we can't see them, but with the proper equipment, we can detect their prescence.

sound is the movement of particles in a subtance (doesn't even have to be through air. it will move through any medium dense enough to sustain it...which leaves out the vacuum of space). hearing, is the detection and interpretation of the sound. detection and interpretation is not necessary for something to exist.

single celled organisms and xrays existed long before we had to the tools to know that they did.
Old 04-13-2006 | 02:09 PM
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(yeah, doesn't have to be through air, I was simplifying a little)
Old 04-13-2006 | 02:28 PM
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Yea when you are going that fast you have a song on loud or at least i do so there for you cant hear it. but you know when you get the fuel cut.
Old 04-13-2006 | 04:32 PM
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european countries pwn when it comes to beer.
Karl Strauss (San Diego based), however, is my personal favorite brewer. i have a gallon jug that i can take to the brewery that they'll fill with the beer of my choice for $10. mmm. all this talk of beer makes me thirsty.
Old 04-13-2006 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by captain mercury
european countries pwn when it comes to beer...
I have to admit, after being stationed in Germany for a couple years, that Americans don't know the real meaning of beer.
Old 04-13-2006 | 08:31 PM
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actually, i was in france last summer, and the french beer pretty much sucks. the only good beer i had there was from belgium, germany etc. but as we all know, thyere more known for wine.
Old 04-14-2006 | 09:34 AM
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I love my beer as much as anyone here. But to get the thread back on topic . . .
Originally Posted by vapourit
I think this car should beep at you when you shift under 6k....

It should have been installed by the oil companies.
Yeah, I cringe when the fuel economy crowd, the easy break-in advocates, or even the owners manual advocate shifting at 3,000 or 3,500. I do try to do that if I must drive the car cold. But then, you are into the next-higher gear at two-thousand-something, Which sure feels to me almost like "lugging" the engine!
Old 04-14-2006 | 08:50 PM
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