Brandon

Depends on what a "sound" is. You could consider a "sound" to be a wave vibration as processed by a human's brain, or, it is merely a "wave vibration," like the wiggling of a rope. If the question was, "if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there, does it make a wave vibration in the air" then one would have to say yes. But a "sound" might require the receiver to interpret it. An alien that has no sense of hearing might consider the "sound" of an electric guitar, or a violin, or a piano to be as inconsequential as the wave vibrations produced by a wiggling rope, but because we process the wave vibrations from them in a way that evokes emotion, brings back memories, etc., we consider them attractive "sounds."

Maybe the guy is losing his hearing. The beep is pretty high pitched.

swoope

iTrader: (5)

wait i see no exhaust or cat mods in you sig.... i think the best idea would be to have the beep adjustable.

this would be much more usefull than being able to turn one and off the button beeps on the headunit...

beers

swoope

iTrader: (5)

wow,

something i feel that i can comment about with knowledge...

no such thing as bad beer unless the beer has gone bad...

it is about preferences. any given day any beer will be the right beer with the right taste to suite someones needs.

we all like different things in beer and life. so one persons miller light = someone elses oatmeal stout.

beers

Krankor

Balderdash. Sound is vibrations in the air. Things exist in reality, and then sensory organs detect them. If a light shines in the forest and there's no one to see it, the light is still there, the photons don't somehow unexist because there's no retina to fall on, no brain to interpret the image. If the bear ***** in the woods and there's nobody there to smell it, the odor is still there, it's particles in the air whether there's a nose around or not. That our brains interpret these sounds/sights/smells doesn't change the fact that they are interpreting something that was there to begin with. That an alien might interpret differently also doesn't change the nature of existence.

Ike

Nonsense, Budweiser is the #1 selling beer in Canada. If you went some place in the US and they didn't have a good beer selection it's because you went to the wrong place, not because the US doesn't have good beer. I can't recall the last time I went somewhere and couldn't find at least an acceptable beer, even chain restaurants have a decent selection nowadays. Hell, even the Fridays a couple miles away from my house has over 40 beers on tap.


P.S. When you drink several wines every day for a living you don't exactly look forward to getting home and having a nice glass of wine

dillsrotary

^^^^^ neither does your liver

vapourit

I think this car should beep at you when you shift under 6k....

It should have been installed by the oil companies.

Glyphon

inconsequential isn't the same thing as non-exsistant. Also, lacking the sensory ability to detect something, doesn't invalidate it's existence. single celled organisms. i can't see them. can't touch them. hear them, smell them or taste them, but everyone knows that they exist. we have to use tools to be able to detect them, but they are still there, and would still be there even if the tools to see them never existed.

same with xrays. we can't see them, but with the proper equipment, we can detect their prescence.

sound is the movement of particles in a subtance (doesn't even have to be through air. it will move through any medium dense enough to sustain it...which leaves out the vacuum of space). hearing, is the detection and interpretation of the sound. detection and interpretation is not necessary for something to exist.

single celled organisms and xrays existed long before we had to the tools to know that they did.

Krankor

(yeah, doesn't have to be through air, I was simplifying a little)

Howdy1606

Yea when you are going that fast you have a song on loud or at least i do so there for you cant hear it. but you know when you get the fuel cut.

captain mercury

european countries pwn when it comes to beer.
Karl Strauss (San Diego based), however, is my personal favorite brewer. i have a gallon jug that i can take to the brewery that they'll fill with the beer of my choice for $10. mmm. all this talk of beer makes me thirsty.

Paul_in_DC

I have to admit, after being stationed in Germany for a couple years, that Americans don't know the real meaning of beer.

captain mercury

actually, i was in france last summer, and the french beer pretty much sucks. the only good beer i had there was from belgium, germany etc. but as we all know, thyere more known for wine.

Freddie

I love my beer as much as anyone here. But to get the thread back on topic . . .
Yeah, I cringe when the fuel economy crowd, the easy break-in advocates, or even the owners manual advocate shifting at 3,000 or 3,500. I do try to do that if I must drive the car cold. But then, you are into the next-higher gear at two-thousand-something, Which sure feels to me almost like "lugging" the engine!

Paul_in_DC

Born to REV!