Kiken_808

Hey thanks for your opinion. however the last part about the driving lessons...don't think i can't drive. You don't know me more so you've never seen me race. Another thing is you don't know **** about me. I hate people like you who make assumptions like that. I've gone to racing schools with my friends up on Maui so I know the difference between racing and reckless driving. Btw those guys who I raced, the honda S2k and Civic, were both with me at the school.

Kiken_808

Let me ask you this, why did you buy your RX8 if you truly think they suck?

G3tR3DDY2GR3DDY

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i was just making a general good fact that most people have never had real driving lessons and are very rewarded from them. Dont be so quick to judge what i think of you. although i can judge a lot from the rediculous wing that you dont care too much how the car looks so i recommend the performance mods and nitrous. whats the problem with that?

Str8cold

If you are going to drop around 10k for mods, just trade your 8 in and pick up a Vette. If 400hp is not enough for you at that point drop another 5k and get it supercharged, nothing barring exotics will be able to keep up with you.

BlueRenesis82

Can you let us know how your plan to buy a brand new GTR with hopes and dreams and 7k goes?

Kiken_808

Ha but how do you know that, that is the wing i even have on my car? Cuz just to let you know my RX8 happens to be stock. So not be an *** or anything, but you shouldn't judge too quickly yourself. I do thank you for your input on what mods i should do. i just get offended when someone tells me i need driving lessons when you haven't even seen me drive or know a single thing about me.

BlueRenesis82

By posting an asinine thread like this, you tell us all we need to know.

I hear Honda is having a sale on Civics on the big island.

Kiken_808

well i was actually going to get a loan from family members or something since i haven't asked them for much in the past and I've done all i could to help them out in time of need. but that would contradict what i was saying before about spoiled kids and such. so i'm still just praying and saving for now. it doesn't hurt to dream. Hope is something someone dreams about, but doesn't do anything about it to make their dreams turn into a reality. So what I've been doing is investing, researching, and dreaming.

halimsteven

kiken, if you have 7K, i think it's better for you to buy turbo. buy used greddy, INT-x, radiator, anything to support the turbo in your car. i read alot that if you tune right with the turbo, it will not let you down, but it must be tuned right. i don't think you will need bigger horsepower than 300 at wheels, since you have skills with driving, i think it will help you a lot in race. that's what i believe. you have to love your car rx8, so you will appreciate all the mods that you put inside your car. i have spent more than 3K just for the body kits and bolts-on, now my project is TURBO. so, it's your call.
If you have GTR, no body will want to race you, because they know it's fast already. but if you have a small car, people will challange you, than you can use your skills and power of the car.

carbonRX8

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I actually feel a little pity for you now.

Please take the following comments as constructive. You are NOT going to get a new GT-R. You owning a GT-R is not a dream, but a daydream. fagedaboutit.

Maybe and STi or Evo or C6. That sounds achievable, and will put you in heaven.

More likely, is that you could mod your 8 into a real car. I will say, do your research, make smart buys, be conservative. And be realistic.

Also, stop the 'dick measuring' behaviour. The RX8 is what it is. It is a great car. Who cares what one RX8 does up against one s2k. At best you go home wondering if the other guy was a worse driver or that your car was better. At worse you end up wrapped around a tree with a steering column through your chest like one DC-area evo owner recently experienced racing a bimmer. He dead. What were they racing for again?

nycgps

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You should save the money and learn how to drive faster first.

I mean, in a performance driving school, or practice HARD somewhere that u will not kill anyone.

BlueRenesis82

Good solid plan, ask to borrow money from family members. You must really be researching a ton!

Kiken_808

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Its just more for bragging rights and a bit of pride. it sucks that people look down upon the rx8. they all have great respect for the rx7s, but the rx8 they laugh at it. Idk maybe it is just 'dick measuring' but i just want to prove to people that the rx8 really is a great car and that no one should look down upon them. With some moderate upgrades that it will surely go.

Anyways here's the turbo kit i'm planning to install. Since i'm in auto mechanics i would be installing this on my own, but i'm still researching to see how difficult it really is and if its gonna cost me an engine then I'll just leave it as is.

btw its the first one. the brand is SFR. don't know how good it is, but i've been asking some friends of mine if they've heard of them. Have any of you?

http://turbokits.com/rx-8_turbo_kits.html

carbonRX8

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Since you are doing this on your own, I would recommend a more intensive and more rewarding path. Sure you could buy a kit (SSR, Pettit SC, I would have to recommend Mazmart) but you also could gather the parts cheap buy buying a used kit and build it yourself. Not only could you customize it to what you want, it forces you to understand what you are doing before you do it.

It seems to me that you have only begun looking. There is a TON of technical info herein. Start with that.

As for SSR, this is the kit that I hear the least about. Don't know why

Also, if you would take my advice, do what I did and mod the suspension first, before messing much with power. Tires, wheels, sways, coilovers, all this will make it easier to work with once you get blown.

Kiken_808

I went on to corksport and took a look at some suspension upgrades. I was shocked to see how much the RE Amemiya coilover suspension was. Its almost as much as the SFR turbo kit, $4,344.00 not including shipping. But of course they have other options as well. Here's the site: http://corksport.com/store/category/...uspension.html

I have a question about rims and tires, from what i understand if you get bigger rims you have a more bumpy, but stiffer ride. However with smaller rims that are wider, you end up having the best of both worlds, but the looks aren't all there. can you tell me whether this info i got is accurate?

Kiken_808

Kiken_808

just playing blueRenesis82

G3tR3DDY2GR3DDY

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well i would recommend mazsport or PTP kit. (protech performance) they have the best linear dyno in my opinion. Most people dont like the choppiness in the graph after 7k but to me, who cares after 7k how well your boosting. If your boosting at all after 7k your better off than stock atleast. BUT it has the best and most power between 3k and 7k. I would still recommend doing a lot of research first.

BTW- i never said you NEEDED driving lessons it was a suggestion to if you hadnt that you should get some. This isnt the place to get pissed off as you will soon learn.

Kiken_808

Thanks. I'll be sure to remember that.

Wurmfist

NA all the way!

Flashwing

The rx8 is a very capable platform. The fact that your friends might look down upon the RX8 is just a sign of ignorance on their part and has nothing to do with anything performance related.

I can tell you from having the experience of being surrounded by cars which are MUCH faster than I could ever be...no matter how much money you put into your ride, how much wrench time etc. etc. you will never be the fastest out there. I understand the source of pride and what not from being able to walk away from most of the rides on the street but just accept that there will always be someone faster.

Turbo kits don't make the car unreliable per say, your expectations for power do. People who typically pop engines with turbo kits push their vehicles to the very edge to squeeze every inch they can out of their vehicle. Setups and tunes like that don't last long. Be honest about what you can accomplish then back it down by about 10%. You'll enjoy your car much longer.

I'm going to assume that the OP is running on a fairly stock suspension. Two elements which would give you the biggest advantage on the mountain would be suspension and brakes.

The rx8 brake system is pretty good...perhaps better pads would be a good investment for the time being.

Suspension wise, go to an adjustable suspension setup. Either a spring/shock combination with dampening adjustment like the D-spec's or the Koni's would work well. Otherwise a good coilover set would suit you best. Corner weight the car and get a good alignment. Bolt on stiffer sways front and rear. You'll feel a night and day different in your handling.

I don't know what wheels you have, but I would look into a light weight wheel/tire package. Get a larger footprint on the car with a 245 size tire (or bigger if you want) and go with a light weight wheel. You're looking at close to $4,000 to $5,000 at that point depending on the quality of parts.

Having all that HP with no suspension system to handle the power will make the car much more difficult to drive and may in fact make the car worse than when it was N/A.

tajabaho1

I think what John meant to say was Rotary+turbo = pwned owner

Kane

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If you have the desire and the means - then yeah go for it.

But do it smart; develop a plan and work off of it; take your time and do the build right.

And WHEN you break something; don't go high and to the right - just know that is part of the game.

Kiken_808

Well after reading most of this. Its safe to assume that I shouldn't worry too much about power and more about the grip. However it seems that the RX8 is tuned almost perfectly in that department already. Isn't that what most of you felt when you test drove it?

Or are you saying that this is the first steps i should take if i'm planning to boost it? if so then i may just keep it stock and quit worrying about small stuff.

chetrickerman

it may feel perfect, because it handles soo much better than a lot of the cars out there, so you arent used to it. but stiffer sways, and coilovers/ spring-dampner will make it handle like a king, seriously. Now if you have the 7k, start with the basic stuff, like wheels, suspension stuff, and N/A upgrades. even if you go FI after all of those N/A upgrades, they can help bring out the best in your FI system. also Getreadytogreddy was only being constructive, as most of the people on here are. they may be sarcastic a lot, but they want to help. driving school can help you soooo much and bring out the best in both you and the car. those civics and s2ks may be able to beat you in the straights, but if you have the driver education behind you, you should be able to smoke them stock for stock at the autocross track. the 8 is not meant to be a stoplight king and i dont think it ever should be.