SOVINE

I have a sweet mini van with the hardcore radar system installed. I like to cruise with a bunch of kids in it around 100 mph np. It's got 15" plastic spinners its awesome.

dmc27

Beat me to it. MV accidents kill WWWAAAAAYYYYY more people than any of the other things OP listed.


And it's prlly not the same cops pulling you over & responding to calls. Grow up.

cavemancan

To be honest here...If the government took drivers license tests more seriously then maybe we would not have so many fatalities on the road. The truth is (I am spanish btw) individuals can take the exam in there own lanuage for crying out load! How the hell do you come in this country and expect things in your own language.

What I am trying to say is the exams are WAY to fuggin easy. If I can take an exam (about 13 years ago) with only skimming the book for 10 min and pass with flying colors there is something seriously wrong. Also, during the driving exam everything should be done perfectly or you have to test again...PERIOD! I can understand difficulty with parallel parking in cities that dont have that much of it but I COMPLETELY disagree with leaniency in other areas.

Do you know how many azzholes drive in the fast lane while doing like 40mph...OMFG!!! There are so many uneducated, untalented, idiotic drivers on the road causing more issues like congestion and accidents yet they have an issue with speeders only. The truth is that speeders make them money and the government is not willing to tell poor drivers they can not drive. Maybe if they did we would all be much safer.

Hence, the autobahn in Germany. Those who do not wish to speed stay out of the way of those who do. Not only this your vehicle must meet strict inspection guidelines in order to even get on the highway. I am willing to bet there are no where near as many accidents on the autobahn as there are on comparable(amount of traffic) US highways.

This is how I spend my $0.02 cents

CTrx8

iTrader: (2)

these views are...well...very caveman-like. this isn't the forum to discuss why people should be allowed to live here without knowing english. you can make a decent living and be quite productive without knowing it. there are plenty of areas in this country and in big cities with neighborhoods that almost never speak english. again, this isn't the forum for that so i won't spend time on that one.

now there are plenty of bad drivers. but to say they are bad because they are uneducated is just wrong. i know plenty of drivers that are terrible and they are quite educated. if you want to travel the slippery slope of getting to say who gets to drive based on education, money, etc. you would be biting off way more than you could chew. so chill out and ask for a refund on those $0.02.

Rems31

What does being able to speak English have to do with driving?
If roads used only words instead of symbols I can see where this could be a problem. A stop sign can easily be recognized by it's red coloured-octagon shape, for example.

Feras

iTrader: (1)

yesterday my heart nearly leapt up through tthe sun roof. I turn right onto a main road and i accelerate hard since its under a bridge (lovethe sound) and shifting second with tires squealing i clear the bridge and theres a cop to my left hidden behind the bridge...he didnt stop me for some reason but that was scary.

JeRKy 8 Owner

I'll probably never get a speeding ticket from a cop in this car again. I don't speed too much anymore......on straight roads that is. I haven't had a ticket in about a year and a half or so because of this.

But that's probably because there never seems to be a cop sitting around when I'm driving through winding roads or curving streets. If I fail to notice a cop car nearby while a corner or twisty road is coming up, I am gonna be up ****'s creek, cause 95% of the time I plow through turns, way over the limit. When other cars are next to me or nearby of course I take it easy, but usually everyone else is slowing down for the turns so it's not even an issue for me. It's one of the only times I let myself really enjoy the car's handling.

I understand that doing this puts me at risk for reckless driving offenses, which could either mean a heavy fine or handcuffs. Haven't been caught yet though. Luckily cops only seem to watch for speeding on straight roads, so when you are coming up on twisty roads, majority of the time you can get away with anything. Just try not to collide.

ChaseRX8

its not the guy going 100mph on the highway its the people that dont know how to drive and over react to situations, some one taps the brakes in front of them and they slam on their brakes and swerve to the side

oh and the best way to spot a cop at night on a side road, crank on those HID brights and watch those cop car decals light up like a xmas tree

Toly

Agree... too things kill: speed and incompetence. While they punish drivers for speed, they don't punish drivers for poor abilities. I used to know some poor people who were killed by some geezer who had lost his motoric and mental abilities long long ago but no one cared until someone died... If they had drving retests and requiring medical certification every couple years, lots more people would've been saved. But they don't.

I'd prefer a speeding teenager over a geezer any day (with exception of street racing)

Krankor

I agree with everything you say, except for the implied link between bad driving and not knowing English. While I agree that the tests should only be given in English, that's a political rather than safety issue, and, as someone else cited, this is not the forum to argue that. I have driven in countries where I didn't know the language (Poland and Italy) and was able to do so quite safely (indeed, I was much more dangerous in England, where I did know the language).

flomulgator

think they give speeding tickets to save lives? Just try and reconcile that sentiment with this fact:

"New York DMV Transit Adjudication Board
The State of New York offers a unique challenge for successfully fighting traffic tickets. Actually this challenge exists in Albany, Buffalo, Rochester and New York City. If you receive a citation in these cities you are essentially doomed. These cities utilize the DMV Transit Adjudication Bureau. This facility is not a real court. You have no right to discovery, you don't get a supporting deposition, you cannot plea bargain and you don't even get a real judge. Appeals are virtually non-existent and according to a recent report, the Bureau is required to maintain a 65% conviction rate in order to maintain revenues. The only positive is that the Administrative Law Judge doesn't have the power of incarceration so you won't end up in jail.


The only hope for a small measure of success in this venue is to file as many continuances as possible and hope that the officer finally doesn�t show for your appearance date. This is the only way you will manage to beat a citation in this skewed excuse for a court system. As hard as it is to believe, this system is legal and constitutional. Continued efforts to revise this system have been vetoed by the governors at the time since it is realized that this system is a money machine. The best advice is not to get a ticket in any of these locations."

source: http://www.worldlawdirect.com/articl...ng_ticket.html

Groundrush

Good job.

myriadshalaks

iTrader: (1)

no ticket in the 8 (yet), but i used to get pulled over all the time in my 330. i came up with a list of excuses.
here's a sample: I was trying to put some distance between myself and this crazy trucker trying run me off the road. (only works on the highway). I have over 30 that i think are pretty good.
still, excuses rarely work. that's why i bought a calibre. I think it works, but if it doesn't, they pay the ticket (for a year).

Rems31

Speeding tickets are used as a deterrent. I'm sure there are many (financial) reasons tickets are given. But it still doesn't change the fact that it does aid in reducing excess speeds and hence, saves lives.

Torchmonkey

I have had my 8 for 18 months (16k miles) and no tickets or pull overs. I usually drive decently quick, and reserve the hard core speeding for drill weekends (National Guard) and do it in uniform. There is actually a law in Alabama that states "members of the armed forces or state militia can not be arrested for any felony/misdemeanor, except for murder or rape, while on duty or going to and from duty. I have hit 135 mph several times (with no traffic) testing this theory, but have been lucky enough not to get pulled over.

Before you flame, hate me, not the uniform.

djkrazy

i have to you one thing ... driving my rx8 isnt as fun when i am actually paying attention of the speed limit

flomulgator

That is a skewed perspective. Find me a place where that is actually true (lack of enforcement/law = more deaths). There have been government-funded (results ignored) studies that show that the HIGHER a speed limit relative to a driver's comfort level the safer that person will drive.

Cattywampus

Good! Another client I dont have to deal with

RotaryP7

God, I regret ever saying this.. Ever since I did.. Well, lets say I haven't been that good.

I come out of work at around 11:30pm-12.. The highway I take to go home is always empty, and so, I test my 8 on that road.. Redlining on the way!! Anyways.. Yesterday night, I was hitting triple digits.. For about 2-3mins. I start to slow down just because I refuse to waste more gas. After I do, (about 10sec later) some cop pulls behind me. He stays behind me all the way til' we got off the highway. Lets just say I crapped my pants..

lol, another incident happened today. That same road, I decided to stay around speed limit. Well some dude passes me and blinks his lights because of me going to slow, and yeah, I answer back and hit about 90 on a 60 limit.. I get in front of him and he slows down all of a sudden.. Blinks his lights again for some reason.. Then outta the blue, this cop pulls behind me. He stays on me til we got off the highway, (same as the night before). I was saying, damn, they finally got me. But nah.. I'm too good. Haha. I'm j/k. I regret ever posting that.

Rems31

I think common sense would be more than enough. No one is a perfect driver and any mistakes made would be amplified at higher speeds. Like if you were to swerve at high speeds, you're more likely to lose control of the vehicle than if you were going at a slower speed.

cavemancan

I think I reserve the right to talk about community of ethnicity that I belong to but your right this is not the forum for it so I will leave it alone.

2nd...I "never" mentioned a level of education in the statement I made. A stupid person can be a good driver. What I said is that the exams are way to easy...WAY TO EASY and should be made more difficult. I personally know MANY people in this state that should never have passed a drivers exam both in written form and during the actual drivers (on road) exam. We have the elderly here that can not even see for **** and they are still passing the exams mostly because by LAW they are not legally blind yet and are allowed to drive. The drivers "here" (since this is my only experience) are simply incompetant.

I made a valid comment about my environment...one that you may not be familiar with. You might have a different view if you were here. Either way I do not need your approval.

cavemancan

This was more an example if anything. It just happens to be another pet peeve of mine but prob not on topic anyhow.

I believe in knowing many lanuages.

cavemancan

I miss spoke I guess...dont get me wrong. My family came from other coutries (Colombia, Ecuador, Incan/Myan native south american, and Spaniard) just like the majority of the citizens of this great country. I only used the english thing as an example of how soft the standards have gotten. We are becoming to flexible in testing a drivers competance on the road and having exams in spanish is another form of being flexible. I am just tried of having to deal with soft standards. Maybe people would have better skills if we made the driving exam more difficult. It would force them to retain the knowledge of safe driving practices. Hell, I would go as far as to say multiple exams (I.E. courses) are required before graduation. We are talking billions of dollars everyyear in insurance claims for stupid ****...

And no I am not a Colombian drug lord for you wise asses! My white friends love that joke...BASTARDS!!!

cavemancan

I agree! People luv to assume accidents are based of speed when in my experience the only accidents that are advertised are those that were of a higher rate of speed. People always look for easy solutions or the most obvious to place blame on. No one cares about the idiot driving 20 below the limit and changing lanes without signaling. No one puts him in jail when he causes a major accident. I personally have witnessed an accident of this nature. The person literally switched lanes with no signals and going 20 below. Continued to do so till he got over next to the right lane where he made contact with another car.

The car fled the scene of the accident.

cavemancan

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