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Old 06-23-2003 | 10:48 PM
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Arrow To spoil or not to spoil: That is the question.

Do you think the 8 looks better with or without the rear wing spoiler if it has the appearance package??
I am undecided on it. I added it on my package a few weeks back after seeing some pictures of the black 8, but I'm getting silver and I am considering dropping the spoiler. I do like the look of the appearance package I just can't decide if it looks right on there. The pictures from the front angle seem nice, and directly behind doesn't seem too bad, but the side veiw gives the look that its just to high. I wish the back was a little bit lower.
I also wish we could get the lip spoiler that is offered in Europe.
Any comments?
Would like to hear everyone's 2 cents.
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Old 06-23-2003 | 10:59 PM
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I was under the impression that we COULD get the lip spoiler. Isn't it in the accessories pamphlet?

edit: I should have mentioned that I too am debatiing the wing spoiler. Haven't really see any good pics of it until I came across these on the Rotory News site:

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Unfortuantely, after seeing these... I'm still undecided. grrrr.

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Old 06-23-2003 | 11:24 PM
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i to was contemplating the spoiler and discussed it with my wife and we both thought the car looked better without in our opnion.so we did not add the spoiler and if i see a aftermarket one i just have to have then i may add on later.
Old 06-23-2003 | 11:57 PM
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I thought it looked good at first but after seeing it in different angles, it looks better with out it. I would wait for an aftermarket lip spoiler if you wanted that instead.
Old 06-24-2003 | 12:19 AM
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I don't like the rear spoiler because it takes away from the uniqueness of the vehicle. In two words "Mitsubishi Eclipse" comes to mind. A lip spoiler might look good but it won't be cheap given the position of the third middle brake light just under the lip. I do not believe a lip spoiler is a U.S. manufacturer option due to the middle brake light. In Europe they have that neat fog light in the rotary accent.

I thought about getting a spoiler but the clincher was imagining opening that relatively small trunk. Not gonna happen for me. Okay so that was 5 cents worth. You asked for it. :D
Old 06-24-2003 | 12:20 AM
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wing spoiler.
...wing-spoiler?? ... you can really only have a wing, or a spoiler...
Old 06-24-2003 | 12:30 AM
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I just called it that to differentiate it from the lip spoiler.

But to spoiler or not to spoiler... that's the question....


EDIT:

HEY! Rear "Wing Spoiler" is what Mazda is calling it too!
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Hence, I will continue to call it a "wing" spoiler as well! :D

btw - I was wrong about the lip spoiler - it's not listed - booooo!

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Old 06-24-2003 | 07:34 PM
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I too was contemplating the LIP spoiler, and adding it later, but after looking at it and with the discussion in another thread, I decided against it. For one, the car from the rear has a slight appearance of already having a lip, so adding the LIP spoiler did not make that much of an appearance difference. Second, the LIP spoiler is definately not as functional as the WING spoiler.

Still, I was unsure if I wanted to add Mazda's wing spoiler, wait till later, or go for something aftermarket. I liked it, my wife didn't care, and my 19 yr old daughter loved it. I decided the car looked great either way, and since it would be more convenient to have it port installed and much cheaper, I decided to go for it.
Old 06-24-2003 | 07:46 PM
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i bought an aftermarket high wing. but i do like the "ricer" fast and furios look. but will have to wait until the car actually gets here to see how it looks before i drill the holes...
Old 06-24-2003 | 08:12 PM
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I actually did order the rear spoiler. But after I did so, the more I looked at, the more I thought It stuck out like a sore thumb.

It doesn't look that bad with the the aero package added on, but after really debating about it, I came to the conclusion that the car looks BEAUTIFUL all on its own!!!

I dropped the spoiler (non-lip) and added the 6 disk CD changer.

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Old 06-25-2003 | 08:01 AM
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Decisions, decisions!! (omg..the first spelling was a major typo)
I appreciate all who replied on the spoiler issue.
I am still undecided on what to do about it. I know the appearance package will look nice, but I am just not sure about that spoiler. I have family telling me conflicting opinions on the issue as well.
It's a hard choice when all you have is pictures to go by.
I have looked at pictures over and over again. Most show the spoiler on a Red model and a Black model. I've been to the Japanese site that lets you add on all of the accessories and change the cars color, but it just isn't the same as seeing it up close .
aaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhh!!

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Old 06-25-2003 | 10:29 AM
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Well I ordered the 'wing' as well as the appearance pkg. I saw it on the black car at detroit and I had to have it! It wasn't too mitsubishish. A little arch to it but not too boy racer either. I opened the trunk on it too and the way the trunk swings up it wasn't anywhere near touching the roof. I do think the wing probably looks best on a black car though (which is what I ordered).
Old 06-25-2003 | 12:42 PM
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Halleys: did you check out my link above? There are mulitple new pics there with a BLUE 8 with a spoiler.
Old 06-25-2003 | 12:56 PM
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Arrow Halleys: did you check out my link above? There are mulitple new pics there with a BL

I did see them, and thank-you very much for posting the link.
I just wish I had some like that in the silver. I am almost thinking I should have gone with the black color choice......now I'm second guessing my decision of the silver. It would be so much easier if they were available to view in person.
Old 06-25-2003 | 01:03 PM
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What difference does the color of the car make when deciding on the spoiler? You've seen it in red/black or whatever and now you want to see it in silver? If you like it in red you'll like it in silver. If you didn't like it in red you won't like it in silver. It is either you like the look or you don't...the color you see it in won't make a damn bit of difference.
Old 06-25-2003 | 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by Charleston
I don't like the rear spoiler because it takes away from the uniqueness of the vehicle. In two words "Mitsubishi Eclipse" comes to mind....
c'mon now! "takes away from the uniqueness of the vehicle?!"

if you're saying that the addition of the spoiler makes the RX-8 look more like a "typical" sports car i guess i might see your point.

are u saying that an RX-8 without a spoiler is more unique than an RX-8 with a spoiler?
Old 06-25-2003 | 01:29 PM
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Sorry but color DOES make a difference in how it looks. Different colors will reflect light differently and cast shadows differently. So the wing would appear more prominent on lighter colored cars. With black it tends to blend in a little more.

took this pic in detroit
http://www.joshjohnson.com/rx8/rx8-rear.jpg

you can kinda see it in this pic not very well though.
http://www.joshjohnson.com/rx8/passside.jpg
Old 06-25-2003 | 01:47 PM
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~~~~~What difference does the color of the car make when deciding on the spoiler? You've seen it in red/black or whatever and now you want to see it in silver? If you like it in red you'll like it in silver. If you didn't like it in red you won't like it in silver. It is either you like the look or you don't...the color you see it in won't make a damn bit of difference.~~~~~~~~
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There is a difference to me. Some colors it works with, some it doesn't. I like it on the black 8's pictures, but not on other's I've seen. The angle it has been taken at also makes me wonder.
From my point of view, yes......seeing it on the 8 in my color does make a huge difference in my decision.
Old 06-25-2003 | 02:18 PM
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Regarding RX-8 Zoomster's comment:

"Second, the LIP spoiler is definately not as functional as the WING spoiler."

The lip spoiler may not provide as much downforce, but it lowers drag from .31 to .30 according to "The Book".

The wing (arch?) spoiler probably increases drag!

I'm hoping someone releases a longer lip-type spoiler for the aftermarket.
Old 06-25-2003 | 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by HalleysComet

There is a difference to me. Some colors it works with, some it doesn't. I like it on the black 8's pictures, but not on other's I've seen. The angle it has been taken at also makes me wonder.
From my point of view, yes......seeing it on the 8 in my color does make a huge difference in my decision.

IMO, I think the bottom line is whether you like the arch spoiler design or not. If you are unsure of whether to get it, don't. If you see it in person, and change your mind, you can add it. It's better to wait then regretting it later.

Here is a pic of the silver with the spoiler. LINK TO SILVER
It should give you a good idea of what it looks like. I based my buying decision on the visual I saw of my red one.

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Old 06-25-2003 | 03:00 PM
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The lip spoiler may not provide as much downforce, but it lowers drag from .31 to .30 according to "The Book".

The wing (arch?) spoiler probably increases drag!
KKM,

I respectfully disagree. I believe the wing (arch) spoiler would DECREASE the drag further than the lip spoiler.
Old 06-25-2003 | 03:09 PM
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KKM,

I respectfully disagree. I believe the wing (arch) spoiler would DECREASE the drag further than the lip spoiler.
I don't see how, since there is a big bloody hole in it... and it's not angled in a way that would put more OR less downforce on the car.

It's really just aesthetic.
Old 06-25-2003 | 04:38 PM
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drag is induced by turbulance behind the car too not just from frontal surface area. Changing the flow of the air at the rear of the vehicle can reduce drag a little.
Old 06-26-2003 | 02:08 PM
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Regarding my last comment:

The Yamaguchi book says the optional rear spoiler reduces the drag coeffient from .31 to .30, but it doesn't say if it is the arch spoiler or the lip spoiler.

I guess aesthetic considerations could be the determining factor to spoil or not to spoil anyway.
Old 06-26-2003 | 08:37 PM
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The small lip spoiler that is supposed to be available in Canada and not (so far) in the US is by far the classier spoiler. The wing thing is fugly.


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