Stick shift parking
12-02-2007, 10:11 PM
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In the manual it states not to use the parking brake in freezing temperatures as it could freeze (it also says to block the rear wheels). Currently I have my car in 1st gear parked on a flat surface without the parking brake because the temps have been below freezing lately.
12-02-2007, 10:17 PM
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I'm fairly new to manual transmissions and the person who taught me never told me that the car had to be in gear when parked. Whenever I park I have it in neutral and with the parking brake on.
What does being in gear do exactly?
What does being in gear do exactly?
12-02-2007, 11:13 PM
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It spares you the wrath of those who go on a crusade after reading the part of the owner's manual that says "Before leaving the driver's seat, always set the parking brake and make sure the shift lever is in P with an automatic transmission or in 1 or R with a manual transmission."
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12-02-2007, 11:21 PM
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yea... wtf... who teaches some of these people to drive mannys? Comon, first thing the person taught me was when you park, pull the parking brake and put it in gear. When I was trading seats with the passenger with the engine on, i pulled the parking brake and the car drifted since i did not pull it hard enough. Luckily the passenger was still in, that was when my first hand experience of doing both came to me. Each covers the other to guarantee that it does not roll.
12-03-2007, 09:01 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_brake
12-03-2007, 10:23 AM
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it's no different than parking an automatic ... you HAVE to put an auto into park to get the keys out, right? well, they can't make you put a manual into 1st gear, but it's the same idea.
basically, and this is a very vague explanation, but if the car is in 1st gear, it thinks it's about to move forward. the drive gear is engaged so that literally the tires canNOT roll backwards. much the same, if you're parked downhill facing downward, you put it in reverse, b/c the wheels are ready to move backward in gear, so they physically cannot roll forward in this case. like others said, is is possible to override that, so you should always park with the parking break too (even in an automatic!!)
basically, and this is a very vague explanation, but if the car is in 1st gear, it thinks it's about to move forward. the drive gear is engaged so that literally the tires canNOT roll backwards. much the same, if you're parked downhill facing downward, you put it in reverse, b/c the wheels are ready to move backward in gear, so they physically cannot roll forward in this case. like others said, is is possible to override that, so you should always park with the parking break too (even in an automatic!!)
12-03-2007, 10:25 AM
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Technically, it's called the e-brake. Handbrake is just a nickname for the e-brake.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_brake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_brake
12-03-2007, 07:58 PM
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gear is engaged so that literally the tires canNOT roll backwards
P on an AT locks the driveshaft, so you don't have to use the parking brake. An MT has no P position, so even if you put it in gear you need to use the parking brake.
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12-03-2007, 08:59 PM
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I got into a habit with my Accord, Parking break, then put it in PARK. If you drive an AUTO and notice that if you do not use the Parking break, the car will rest on the Tranny when it is in park, but putting up the Parking break and THEN put it into park this will help reduce the weight of the car on the Tranny.
when you dont use the parking break sometimes its a noticable "CLUNK" sound when putting it out of park.
This transferred over to my MT RX-8, always parking break then put it into first gear.
when you dont use the parking break sometimes its a noticable "CLUNK" sound when putting it out of park.
This transferred over to my MT RX-8, always parking break then put it into first gear.
12-03-2007, 10:55 PM
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I never put it in gear just e-brake pulled the whole way up never had a problem...unless on a steep hill then 1st and e-brake but mostly just e-brake
12-03-2007, 11:07 PM
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Wait. Someone sum it all. I'm confused.
When you park on a regular surface [flatland] leave in in 1st +ebrake?
When parking downhill facing DOWNHILL you leave the car in reverse because it thinks it is going reverse causing it not to roll forward? +ebrake
When parking UPHILL you leave the car in 1st because it thinks it is going forward causing it not to roll back? +ebrake
That right?
...and you do all of this BEFORE turning off the car?
When you park on a regular surface [flatland] leave in in 1st +ebrake?
When parking downhill facing DOWNHILL you leave the car in reverse because it thinks it is going reverse causing it not to roll forward? +ebrake
When parking UPHILL you leave the car in 1st because it thinks it is going forward causing it not to roll back? +ebrake
That right?
...and you do all of this BEFORE turning off the car?
12-03-2007, 11:27 PM
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ha ha voodoo, good one.
yes on all counts briann.
ken-x8 -- i know you're right, i was trying to explain it to allow someone to understand what leaving it in gear does.
if you park the car in first gear on a slight incline, and i mean slight, put the car in first gear, turn it off leaving your left foot on the clutch and your right foot on the brake with no *e*-brake, then take out the clutch pedal, THEN take your foot off the brake, the car should "catch". i know it's not "park" like in autos, but it's that same feeling of "catching" before it rolls.
anyway, always use the parking brake!
yes on all counts briann.
ken-x8 -- i know you're right, i was trying to explain it to allow someone to understand what leaving it in gear does.
if you park the car in first gear on a slight incline, and i mean slight, put the car in first gear, turn it off leaving your left foot on the clutch and your right foot on the brake with no *e*-brake, then take out the clutch pedal, THEN take your foot off the brake, the car should "catch". i know it's not "park" like in autos, but it's that same feeling of "catching" before it rolls.
anyway, always use the parking brake!
12-04-2007, 04:06 PM
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Briann, I think you've got it backwards. If the car is pointing uphill, put it in R, if downhill, 1st. If the car rolls a little, you want it to turn the engine forwards, not backwards (engines are generally not meant to turn backwards.)
12-04-2007, 04:16 PM
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The whole parking thing with a stick is really easy. Here's what you should do, NO MATTER WHAT, if you are a decent, careful, and loving driver.
On a Flat, Downhill, or Uphill.
(Note that just like an automatic, I am stepping on the car's brakes during the whole parking procedure, its a habit that keeps peace in mind)
Get in Parking position. Make sure the car is stopped and it neutral, ready to be turned off.
Pull the Hand brake up. Turn car off. Now that the Hand brake is up, and the car is off, push in the clutch and put the car in 1st Gear ( for flat or uphill), or R Gear (for Downhill).
When you get back in the car, you got two choices.
Take car out of Gear and into N. Stepping on brakes, put the Hand brake down and turn the car on. Put the car in gear and go.
OR the riskier but quicker way
Get in car, clutch in HOLD and brakes HOLD. Turn car on (keep the clutch pedal down for the car is still in a Gear), put the Handbrake down, and go. Quick and easy. But if you turn the car on, and let go of the clutch, the car will launch/stall. so be careful
On a Flat, Downhill, or Uphill.
(Note that just like an automatic, I am stepping on the car's brakes during the whole parking procedure, its a habit that keeps peace in mind)
Get in Parking position. Make sure the car is stopped and it neutral, ready to be turned off.
Pull the Hand brake up. Turn car off. Now that the Hand brake is up, and the car is off, push in the clutch and put the car in 1st Gear ( for flat or uphill), or R Gear (for Downhill).
When you get back in the car, you got two choices.
Take car out of Gear and into N. Stepping on brakes, put the Hand brake down and turn the car on. Put the car in gear and go.
OR the riskier but quicker way
Get in car, clutch in HOLD and brakes HOLD. Turn car on (keep the clutch pedal down for the car is still in a Gear), put the Handbrake down, and go. Quick and easy. But if you turn the car on, and let go of the clutch, the car will launch/stall. so be careful
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