Is there a way to defeat the tire pressure sensors for winter tires?
#1
Is there a way to defeat the tire pressure sensors for winter tires?
I just swapped over to winter tires and wheels. The tire sensor lights is going off as the winter set do not have sensors.
Is there a way to reset or defeat the sensors temporarily? No big deal, but a minor annoyance.
Is there a way to reset or defeat the sensors temporarily? No big deal, but a minor annoyance.
#2
I have had a fun time with my sensors..bottom line..they are twitchy buggers...best thing you can do is make sure they are ballanced and inflated to the right PSI. The sensors hate cold weather so I am looking forward to good times in the winter from them....
#3
Since your probelm stems from not actually having sensors in the wheels, inflating them properly will do little to help with the blinking light.
I am planning on deftly placed electrical tape over the light on the dash. After that you might try pulling fuses, but idiot lights are almost always on the same circuit as something that you might not like to lose . . . like say the ignition system or the starter motor.
Electrical tape . . .ummm, it's black, it's opaque, it's good!
I am planning on deftly placed electrical tape over the light on the dash. After that you might try pulling fuses, but idiot lights are almost always on the same circuit as something that you might not like to lose . . . like say the ignition system or the starter motor.
Electrical tape . . .ummm, it's black, it's opaque, it's good!
#6
Originally posted by sferrett
Couldn't you take the stems out of your summer wheels and stick em in your winter ones? Then you can actaully take advantage of the TPMS?
Couldn't you take the stems out of your summer wheels and stick em in your winter ones? Then you can actaully take advantage of the TPMS?
#7
Is there a way to defeat the tire pressure sensors for winter tires?
for discussions on this if you're interested.
I presume your Tire Pressure Monitoring System Warning Light is constantly flashing. If so, does it start flashing as soon as you start the car or after driving for a while?
regards,
rx8cited
Last edited by rx8cited; 11-25-2003 at 03:12 PM.
#8
My perfect solution were Dunlop M92 225/40/18 Winter tires bought on eBay for $380.00 for the set. These work great, fit the existing rims, and no problems with the pressure sensors. Last time I looked there were others available on eBay. There are some legal issues with the tire sensors being removed after November 1st of this year. Surely no cop is going to stop you for the removal of the sensors but there may be insurance issues if an accident is determined to be related to your non-sensored wheels. For whatever its worth...
#9
I switched over to the Dunlop Wintersport M3 225/45/17's with Sport Edition Fox 2's rims this past weekend (all from tirerack.com). I can't figure out why -- but my tire pressure warning light has never come on since I switched I was expecting to have to put up with the warning light all Winter. I know the sensors were working because I got the warning light several times when my pressure was a little low on the stock tires/rims.
#10
Originally posted by eccles
... it leaves a gooey mess behind when you remove it.
... it leaves a gooey mess behind when you remove it.
Thanks for bringing that up. I should have mentioned it before as this might be an issue for him. I just don't see any way around this problem yet though. I have been unable to find any fuse fix myself although I have done little analysis of that, and I have yet to read anyone else on the Tech section who has figured it out. Most guys I have read are just planning to put up with it. Our government at work again.
#11
I ordered my tire/wheel package from Tire Rack today.
I got a call at work several hours later from the CS rep
telling me he called a dealer who informed him he needs
to put TPM's on the tires or there would be a constant
warning beep at all times.
I told him that wasn't true - and cited this forum.
I appreciate all the help I get from forum members-
for the snow tire issue and oil pan issue in particular.
My dealer has been lacking in info about this new car
and the forum has been a fantastic help.
I especially appreciate the advice of Gordon from Canada about
wheels and snow tires.
Thanks Gordon!!
I got a call at work several hours later from the CS rep
telling me he called a dealer who informed him he needs
to put TPM's on the tires or there would be a constant
warning beep at all times.
I told him that wasn't true - and cited this forum.
I appreciate all the help I get from forum members-
for the snow tire issue and oil pan issue in particular.
My dealer has been lacking in info about this new car
and the forum has been a fantastic help.
I especially appreciate the advice of Gordon from Canada about
wheels and snow tires.
Thanks Gordon!!
Last edited by silvercloud; 11-25-2003 at 06:49 PM.
#12
The light comes one pretty quick once the car is started.
I like the electrical tape idea, but I'll use gaffer's tape. It rarely leaves a residue.
My experience also is that there rarely is a fuse that will disable a single warning light.
I like the electrical tape idea, but I'll use gaffer's tape. It rarely leaves a residue.
My experience also is that there rarely is a fuse that will disable a single warning light.
#13
FWIW, I ordered LM22 17" tires/Mille Miglia HT3 17" wheels yesterday from Tire Rack including the tire pressure sensors. They have the sensors in stock ($99) but there is a sleeve ($5) that is also required to mount it on the wheel that has not come in from Mazda yet. ETA December 10th.
#14
Originally posted by TreknMazda
FWIW, I ordered LM22 17" tires/Mille Miglia HT3 17" wheels yesterday from Tire Rack including the tire pressure sensors.
FWIW, I ordered LM22 17" tires/Mille Miglia HT3 17" wheels yesterday from Tire Rack including the tire pressure sensors.
Good to hear that Tire Rack is now handling the tire pressure sensors for those of us who don't want to put up with the flashing light. Too late for me though . I bought another set of 18" stock wheels and sensors from Mazda to go with my Dunlop Winter Sport M3s from Tire Rack - when I was ready to order several weeks ago Tire Rack was not willing to install or deal with the sensors.
What's the whole wheel/tire/sensor package from them going to cost you? Mine cost around $2100.
Did you have to request the sensors from Tire Rack via phone/e-mail? I don't see them on the web site.
I wonder if they started supplying the sensors now to comply with the upcoming federal regulations that require sensors?
Happy Thanksgiving,
rx8cited
Last edited by rx8cited; 11-26-2003 at 02:29 PM.
#15
Originally posted by RXhusker I switched over to the Dunlop Wintersport M3 225/45/17's with Sport Edition Fox 2's rims this past weekend (all from tirerack.com). I can't figure out why -- but my tire pressure warning light has never come on since I switched .......
FYI ... here's what pullinteef experienced after putting new sensorless wheels on
as quoted from [Wheels, Tires and Suspension > Wheels for snow tires]:
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...5&pagenumber=3
Originally posted by pullinteef One wierd thing I've noticed is that after driving to and from work today, the tire pressure sensor did not light up at all, and I drove a good 15-20 minutes each way. Strange - is there a minimum time you have to drive w/o sensors before they go off? BTW, the system was functioning before because it lit up after some serious temp drop with the standard tires.
Originally posted by pullinteef Yeah, the light finally came on and continues flashing. I think it comes on after about 15 minutes now, not sure why it didn't at first but now it's happened a few times. It's really not all that annoying, but some people have said a little piece of black tape covers it pretty cleanly. I only heard the beep the first time the light came on with the stock 18" wheels/tires after a temp drop caused some low tire pressure. No beeping since.
Happy Thanksgiving,
rx8cited
#18
Originally posted by rx8cited
What's the whole wheel/tire/sensor package from them going to cost you? Mine cost around $2100.
Did you have to request the sensors from Tire Rack via phone/e-mail? I don't see them on the web site.
I wonder if they started supplying the sensors now to comply with the upcoming federal regulations that require sensors?
What's the whole wheel/tire/sensor package from them going to cost you? Mine cost around $2100.
Did you have to request the sensors from Tire Rack via phone/e-mail? I don't see them on the web site.
I wonder if they started supplying the sensors now to comply with the upcoming federal regulations that require sensors?
I PM'd Connor@tirerack to verify they would not do the sensors. That's when I found out they had the sensors but not the sleeves. You will not find it online yet. You have to order via phone. The tires/wheels are on reserve until the sleeves come in for the sensors. Then they get mounted/balanced/shipped. Just hope snow and ice stays away till they get here
FYI folks- 17" whels are also becoming scarce at some tire rack warehouse locations to go with your winter tires unless you don't care how much they cost. Must be a lot of RX-8s getting winterized:D
Once the sensors/sleeves are readily stocked I'm sure you will hear your tire/wheel salesman say "It's the law, $400 please" :D But seriously, Connor said Mazda was slow getting the sensors (slower still for the sleeves) to market.
originally posted by starnes
Is that 99$ + 5$ for EACH wheel for the sensors? So, that's $416 MORE for wheels with the sensors? Or am I confused?
Is that 99$ + 5$ for EACH wheel for the sensors? So, that's $416 MORE for wheels with the sensors? Or am I confused?
Happy Thanksgiving to all!
Enjoy your turkey and trimmings. But I think I am going to grill a steak!
#19
Originally posted by TreknMazda
...... That's when I found out they had the sensors but not the sleeves. ....
...... That's when I found out they had the sensors but not the sleeves. ....
I was the first customer they were doing a new wheel/tire/sensor install for and they discovered after the sensors were being installed on the wheels that the darn little $5 nut that holds the sensors onto the wheels is not included with either the stock wheel or the stock sensor, so that caused a several day delay in waiting for the nuts to come in.
Make sure your installer know the nuts do not come with the wheels or sensors. Hope this info might save someone else from the delay.
Happy Thanksgiving,
rx8cited
#21
Originally posted by TreknMazda
Well, since your solution was $5 and what's on backorder is $5, and if the planets are properly aligned, it's the same part.:D
Well, since your solution was $5 and what's on backorder is $5, and if the planets are properly aligned, it's the same part.:D
Sorry, I could not resist ...... it's close to bed time.
For those who like the technical details and have not seen the TPMS Service Bulletin which includes a nice overview of the system, enjoy:
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...02-002-03.html
They're actually called "wheel unit nuts".
BTW, TreknMazda, how was that grilled steak?
regards,
rx8cited
PS: I just wanted to mention that it was a real pleasure working with Brian over at Trussville Mazda parts department on getting my wheels/sensors ordered and assembled with my tires.
Last edited by rx8cited; 11-27-2003 at 10:44 PM.
#22
Originally posted by rx8cited
BTW, TreknMazda, how was that grilled steak?
regards,
rx8cited
BTW, TreknMazda, how was that grilled steak?
regards,
rx8cited
Thanks for asking.
#23
Originally posted by TreknMazda
Just hope snow and ice stays away till they get here
Just hope snow and ice stays away till they get here
I got hungry just reading about your steaks and fixins!
Looks like we've got snow showers in the 10 day forecast for the DC Metro area for Saturday December 6th.
http://www.weather.com/weather/local/USDC0001
Yikes possible snow showers for the Dulles Airport area tonight!!! -
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/forecasts/VA...07&city=Dulles
This might be a good time to put on the snow tires for those locals who have not installed them yet and plan on driving their RX-8s this winter.
drive carefully,
rx8cited
#24
I just put mine on... no light until about 15 minutes into the drive
it would be ok if the light would just light up and say there, but no, it starts flashing and annoys the bejesus out of me
it would be ok if the light would just light up and say there, but no, it starts flashing and annoys the bejesus out of me
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