Thinking about the RX-8 or the Z
#76
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Originally Posted by Elara
Well, kinda. But I can go from work, to having a hell of a time on the Tail of the Dragon at the same speed you can in your Z (sorry, we're even in the twisties!!), to dropping my kids(if I had any) at soccer practice, all IN THE SAME CAR. Try doing THAT in a Z. That is why I bought this car. When we go out with friends, I can drive us all. When I have kids, I can just toss them in the backseat, AND buy groceries, and still have room (in a sports car, no less). And when I want to beat the hell out of the road, I can do that too. The Z may be a teenie tiny bit faster, but in the end, the 8's almost as fast, handles just as well, has a more luxurious ride, and can carry a heck of a lot more than the Z. Which suits me just fine.
And that IS a really cool car seat- Target, you say?
And that IS a really cool car seat- Target, you say?
#77
Repeat after me:
The rx8 is a family car!
The rx8 is a family car!
The rx8 is a family car!
The rx8 is a family car!
I just bought my rx8 three weeks ago and I've been driving my little baby in a rear facing car seat and I have a graco stroller in the boot. See?
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I love this car!
-dodo
The rx8 is a family car!
The rx8 is a family car!
The rx8 is a family car!
The rx8 is a family car!
I just bought my rx8 three weeks ago and I've been driving my little baby in a rear facing car seat and I have a graco stroller in the boot. See?
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I love this car!
-dodo
#78
Let's rephrase that (and GR8boy can attest since today he met my twin boys and their buddy ... at the Chicago get together) ...
The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...
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The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...
The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...
#80
Originally Posted by StewC625
Let's rephrase that (and GR8boy can attest since today he met my twin boys and their buddy ... at the Chicago get together) ...
The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...
The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...
The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...
The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE[I] family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...The RX-8 is the ULTIMATE family car ...
Last edited by wrightdude; 10-21-2004 at 12:33 PM.
#81
You need the Mazda if you need really usalble rear seats. If not, you will always wonder whetherthe lack of power was worth it. The Mazda, which I own, is such a great all around car for a four seater! But in the true sports car world it may be underpowered.
#82
Originally Posted by zoomed
You need the Mazda if you need really usalble rear seats. If not, you will always wonder whetherthe lack of power was worth it. The Mazda, which I own, is such a great all around car for a four seater! But in the true sports car world it may be underpowered.
I've owned many cars that are faster than the RX-8, but I can honestly say that the RX-8 is as fun and exciting to drive as any of them, if not more. Would I take more power? You bet. But I don't feel it's underpowered, if I did, I wouldn't have bought it.
#83
Well, as a owner of both an 8 and a Z, just my two pennies.
To each his own.
If you are posting here expecting to get a objective view of each vehicle, you won't. The same is true if you post the question on the Z forums...each one will have a tilt.
Both the 8 and the Z are really great sports cars...perfect...no, but they are both fun and enjoyable to drive. Each car has it's strengths and weaknesses and you will find them well documented on the forums of each site. If you really are making a decision between the two, drive them, research, weigh the pros and cons for you and enjoy your new ride.
I started out with an 8 and was not satisified with some aspects of the product and decided to try the Z (I had originally wanted a Z). While the problems I encountered may not affect others here, it was more than what I wanted to deal with. Overall, the 8 did not meet my expectations...a true love/hate releationship.
So far I am very happy with the Z. I have had it for about 6 months and I love it. The vehicle has performed flawlessly and it better suits my taste in vehicles. Some of the cons listed here are not really a problem for me, so I feel fortunate to now be in the Z.
Well...objectively, neither car is perfect - I wish I could take the best parts of each thrown in with a few features from my RSX and create the perfect car but it still probably would not make everyone happy...
Guys & Gals, enjoy your 8's...
To each his own.
If you are posting here expecting to get a objective view of each vehicle, you won't. The same is true if you post the question on the Z forums...each one will have a tilt.
Both the 8 and the Z are really great sports cars...perfect...no, but they are both fun and enjoyable to drive. Each car has it's strengths and weaknesses and you will find them well documented on the forums of each site. If you really are making a decision between the two, drive them, research, weigh the pros and cons for you and enjoy your new ride.
I started out with an 8 and was not satisified with some aspects of the product and decided to try the Z (I had originally wanted a Z). While the problems I encountered may not affect others here, it was more than what I wanted to deal with. Overall, the 8 did not meet my expectations...a true love/hate releationship.
So far I am very happy with the Z. I have had it for about 6 months and I love it. The vehicle has performed flawlessly and it better suits my taste in vehicles. Some of the cons listed here are not really a problem for me, so I feel fortunate to now be in the Z.
Well...objectively, neither car is perfect - I wish I could take the best parts of each thrown in with a few features from my RSX and create the perfect car but it still probably would not make everyone happy...
Guys & Gals, enjoy your 8's...
Last edited by rjenk; 10-22-2004 at 06:16 PM.
#84
Right. A sports car is not defined by its power. A muscle car is.
Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
The Miata holds the world's record as the best selling sports car of all time. It's a true sports car by anyone's definition. Is it underpowered? Does it matter? It's all relative.
I've owned many cars that are faster than the RX-8, but I can honestly say that the RX-8 is as fun and exciting to drive as any of them, if not more. Would I take more power? You bet. But I don't feel it's underpowered, if I did, I wouldn't have bought it.
I've owned many cars that are faster than the RX-8, but I can honestly say that the RX-8 is as fun and exciting to drive as any of them, if not more. Would I take more power? You bet. But I don't feel it's underpowered, if I did, I wouldn't have bought it.
#85
I say if you like the power and torque but you still need the practicality of seating 4 and price isnt an issue then go for the G35 coupe. Its a really nice car, but it would have cost 8K more (ouch). There are some who say that if you want to make a car fun, don't give it too much power (the guy who designed the MR2 spyder said the same). This allows you to wring its neck and enjoy the pleasures of driving a car hard without scaring yourself silly or breaking the speed limit too soon. I think thats what journalist mean when they call cars like the 8 and S2000 as "involving you in the driving experience". I have a gixxer 600 and I can rev the nuts off of it whereas 1000 cc bike owners just loaf around in top gear. Sure they have more power but they aren't having as much fun...and isn't tha what driving a sports car is all about?
#86
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Originally Posted by RocketMonkey68
I say if you like the power and torque but you still need the practicality of seating 4 and price isnt an issue then go for the G35 coupe. Its a really nice car, but it would have cost 8K more (ouch). There are some who say that if you want to make a car fun, don't give it too much power (the guy who designed the MR2 spyder said the same). This allows you to wring its neck and enjoy the pleasures of driving a car hard without scaring yourself silly or breaking the speed limit too soon. I think thats what journalist mean when they call cars like the 8 and S2000 as "involving you in the driving experience". I have a gixxer 600 and I can rev the nuts off of it whereas 1000 cc bike owners just loaf around in top gear. Sure they have more power but they aren't having as much fun...and isn't tha what driving a sports car is all about?
#87
Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
The Miata holds the world's record as the best selling sports car of all time. It's a true sports car by anyone's definition. Is it underpowered? Does it matter? It's all relative.
I've owned many cars that are faster than the RX-8, but I can honestly say that the RX-8 is as fun and exciting to drive as any of them, if not more. Would I take more power? You bet. But I don't feel it's underpowered, if I did, I wouldn't have bought it.
I've owned many cars that are faster than the RX-8, but I can honestly say that the RX-8 is as fun and exciting to drive as any of them, if not more. Would I take more power? You bet. But I don't feel it's underpowered, if I did, I wouldn't have bought it.
Are you sure that the Miata is the best selling sports car of all time??? I really dont know so i am just asking. To me it would seem like the Mustang, Camero, or the Corvete would be a better seller.
#89
Oh cmon...the M Miata is certainly not the best selling sports car "of all time"...either is the 8...or either is the 350Z....you have to define a sports car...like a MG or Triumph...and where do you drive it?
#90
Originally Posted by 350black
Are you sure that the Miata is the best selling sports car of all time??? I really dont know so i am just asking. To me it would seem like the Mustang, Camero, or the Corvete would be a better seller.
The Mustang has an al time record for sales during the first year (introduction) I believe. And its been in production for a gazillion years.
Last edited by RX8-TX; 02-23-2005 at 11:58 AM.
#91
Originally Posted by RX8-TX
Worlwide, the vette, camaro and mustang don't hold a candle against the Miata ....believe it.
The Mustang has an al time record for sales during the first year (introduction) I believe. And its been in production for a gazillion years.
The Mustang has an al time record for sales during the first year (introduction) I believe. And its been in production for a gazillion years.
#92
Originally Posted by RX8-TX
Worlwide, the vette, camaro and mustang don't hold a candle against the Miata ....believe it.
The Mustang has an al time record for sales during the first year (introduction) I believe. And its been in production for a gazillion years.
The Mustang has an al time record for sales during the first year (introduction) I believe. And its been in production for a gazillion years.
I stand corrected. Looks like the Miata is the best of all time since they have come into production in 1989.
http://web.ask.com/redir?bpg=http%3a...nip&Complete=1
#94
Ok, ok, maybe I generalized a little too much. The Miata holds the world record for the best selling 2 seater sports car. http://www.miata.net/news/700k.html. Technically, Camaros and Mustangs aren't sports cars. They're classified as GT's or Muscle Cars.
But my point is simply that it takes more than just speed to make a car fun to drive. I recently test drove an E55 AMG benz. Fast as hell, 0=60 in about 4.3 secs, but it's big and heavy. The power was intoxicating, but the handling still left much to be desired.
Now don't get me wrong, I frankly like the 350Z very much. It has a good balance of power and handling. The only thing that would make it better is less weight. I like my sports cars to be light and nimble.
But my point is simply that it takes more than just speed to make a car fun to drive. I recently test drove an E55 AMG benz. Fast as hell, 0=60 in about 4.3 secs, but it's big and heavy. The power was intoxicating, but the handling still left much to be desired.
Now don't get me wrong, I frankly like the 350Z very much. It has a good balance of power and handling. The only thing that would make it better is less weight. I like my sports cars to be light and nimble.
Last edited by RX-Hachi; 10-24-2004 at 03:31 PM.
#95
Originally Posted by RX-Hachi
Ok, ok, I generalized a little too much. The Miata holds the world record for the best selling 2 seater roadster. http://www.miata.net/news/700k.html
But my point is simply that it takes more than just speed to make a car fun to drive. I recently test drove an E55 AMG benz. Fast as hell, 0=60 in about 4.3 secs, but it's big and heavy. The power was intoxicating, but the handling still left much to be desired.
Now don't get me wrong, I frankly like the 350Z very much. It has a good balance of power and handling. The only thing that would make it better is less weight. I like my sports cars to be light and nimble.
But my point is simply that it takes more than just speed to make a car fun to drive. I recently test drove an E55 AMG benz. Fast as hell, 0=60 in about 4.3 secs, but it's big and heavy. The power was intoxicating, but the handling still left much to be desired.
Now don't get me wrong, I frankly like the 350Z very much. It has a good balance of power and handling. The only thing that would make it better is less weight. I like my sports cars to be light and nimble.
#96
Originally Posted by Genesis
Hey...a net search is a about as accurate as watching paint dry. Hope you don't go long the Google IPO....time to short.
You made about as much sense as checking my gmail. :D
Last edited by RUmble; 10-24-2004 at 03:59 PM.
#97
Even at $85 google's stock was overpriced. The search market is extremely volatile, and Google doesn't generate any kind of profits that would justify it's current stock prices. I agree with Genesis - I wouldn't keep Google's stock for long, though currently people are expecting it to hit $200 a share. It was definitely a great short term investment.
#98
Originally Posted by G8rboy
How does the G35's back seats stack up with the RX8's? I've not actually crawled back into one, but there doesn't seem to be as much space as ours. I agree with you on the rest of your points... the essence of a sports car is light weight, high-revving fun, not torque.
#99
The British car reviewers who tested the Z and 8 said that the both performed exactly the same on the track - 1:31.8 MINUTES. Same with the M3 too. If straight line speed is what you want, go for the Z (faster by 0.4 seconds). You know, split seconds are not that important to me. Try counting 0.4 sec before you inhale. But overall, with the extra back seats and real road driving (with twist and turns) - go for the 8
#100
Originally Posted by Genesis
I still can't understand why the Miata is the best selling 2 seater roadster. It's a pig of a car that will squeel "honk honk" when faced with an 8 or a boxster.
The average Miata owner would pass out if presented with an invoice for a Boxster.
Apples with apples please!