Thoughts on first test drive of an 8
11-16-2007, 10:00 AM
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FYI I ordered my car with the MS kit so needless to say I paid hhhmmm maybe 60,000 or so with all the extras I added so YES I could have gotten a corvette if that is what I wanted. (price wasn't an isssue...I got what I wanted!!)Maybe the viper is a little too far to reach right now.
Husband being a lawyer...hummm not that far!!! Me having my own business...hummm....ENough said.
Husband being a lawyer...hummm not that far!!! Me having my own business...hummm....ENough said.
11-16-2007, 10:02 AM
#52
FYI I ordered my car with the MS kit so needless to say I paid hhhmmm maybe 60,000 or so with all the extras I added so YES I could have gotten a corvette if that is what I wanted. (price wasn't an isssue...I got what I wanted!!)Maybe the viper is a little too far to reach right now.
Husband being a lawyer...hummm not that far!!! Me having my own business...hummm....ENough said.
Husband being a lawyer...hummm not that far!!! Me having my own business...hummm....ENough said.
Now that you've seen HOW to drive with both hands in an MT...you have NO excuse to not do so in your AT...oh wait...its "your" car and you'll put other drivers at risk whenever you feel like it...
11-16-2007, 10:05 AM
#53
My point is that torque converters give some mechanical advantage at low RPM's whereas clutches just burn off the RPM difference as heat and transfer only torque. Like I said, many cars AT's are quicker off the line if the clutch isn't dropped. Something with a power or gear ratio difference could quickly make this up though. What's the stall speed of the torque converter on the 8? Too low I'm guessing.
I can't say I agree with Taj's assertment that the MT won't pull away until 4th gear. I was thinking it should be more like 4k in first gear. I guess even that was too generous to the AT.
I can't say I agree with Taj's assertment that the MT won't pull away until 4th gear. I was thinking it should be more like 4k in first gear. I guess even that was too generous to the AT.
If not I advise you to look it up before making yourself appear even more foolish than you already have.
11-16-2007, 10:22 AM
#54
Regarding MT vs AT… while some with MTs drive hard and fast, many who choose MTs like to think they drive hard and fast, or fantasize about driving hard and fast someday, but… they don't. They drive casually, and while you may think they have no business owning an RX-8, guess what… they enjoy their 8 in their own way as much as anyone else. Like the guy who owns a Ferrari that never sees triple digits. Sports cars are, depending on the owner, a small—or large—part fantasy, and for some, just having MT is cool, even if they drive like a little old lady. For the "I'm not goin' anywhere in a hurry" driver, there's not much of a difference between MT and AT. And for the guy who spends most of his time crawling along the Santa Monica Freeway twice a day, five days a week, the AT just might be, dare I say it… better. 
Last edited by New Yorker; 11-16-2007 at 10:24 AM.
11-16-2007, 10:22 AM
#55
For all those immature children out there!
That is US $ right?? I paid....Canadian$$
April 30, 2007 - New 2006 GT, Velocity Red with sunroof...
List - $41,400
Dealer Discount - $4000 (+520 Pre Delivery Expense)
_______________________
MSRP $37,920
Freight $755
Air Tax $100
Fuel $75
Theft Pkg $299
Ext. Warr.(72/160km) $2349
Other(upgrades/MSKit)$6884 [All upgrades listed in sig.]
Gold Pkg. $895 (FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND AND NEED THINGS SPELT OUT...Gold Pkg. is electronic rust inhibitor, paint sealant & leather protectant)
All which I requested! Not the dealer tacking on anything...
__________________________
$49,277
License Fee $75
Tax(7%gst,8%pst) $7400
_______________________
TOTAL: $56,754
MINUS (-$4000 Dealer)
-$7400 No Tax
-$1000 Cash Back
- $700 Sold OEM Rims
-$5055 No payments for 5 Months plus no service fee
___________
Total Savings $ 14,155 ($18,155 total with 4000 already subtracted above. Also forgot to add the $3500 in free upgrades, totalling $21,655)
TOTAL: $56,754
SAVINGS: $14,155 { $9,100 (not including free payments)}
_________
$42,599 In reality really paid... [$39,099 with $3500 Performance Pkg.]
I got don't pay for 5 months, 1000 cash back $13, 500 down, $3500 Free Performance Pkg. and free oil changes for 1 year! No installation charges on my upgrades- (Paid for - Full MS bumper and spoiler). Also got $4000 off the list price for the 2006 which I purchased in April and picked up in May. Almost forgot 0.9% Financing!!3yrs.
That is US $ right?? I paid....Canadian$$
April 30, 2007 - New 2006 GT, Velocity Red with sunroof...
List - $41,400
Dealer Discount - $4000 (+520 Pre Delivery Expense)
_______________________
MSRP $37,920
Freight $755
Air Tax $100
Fuel $75
Theft Pkg $299
Ext. Warr.(72/160km) $2349
Other(upgrades/MSKit)$6884 [All upgrades listed in sig.]
Gold Pkg. $895 (FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND AND NEED THINGS SPELT OUT...Gold Pkg. is electronic rust inhibitor, paint sealant & leather protectant)
All which I requested! Not the dealer tacking on anything...
__________________________
$49,277
License Fee $75
Tax(7%gst,8%pst) $7400
_______________________
TOTAL: $56,754
MINUS (-$4000 Dealer)
-$7400 No Tax
-$1000 Cash Back
- $700 Sold OEM Rims
-$5055 No payments for 5 Months plus no service fee
___________
Total Savings $ 14,155 ($18,155 total with 4000 already subtracted above. Also forgot to add the $3500 in free upgrades, totalling $21,655)
TOTAL: $56,754
SAVINGS: $14,155 { $9,100 (not including free payments)}
_________
$42,599 In reality really paid... [$39,099 with $3500 Performance Pkg.]
I got don't pay for 5 months, 1000 cash back $13, 500 down, $3500 Free Performance Pkg. and free oil changes for 1 year! No installation charges on my upgrades- (Paid for - Full MS bumper and spoiler). Also got $4000 off the list price for the 2006 which I purchased in April and picked up in May. Almost forgot 0.9% Financing!!3yrs.
Last edited by Leesha; 11-16-2007 at 11:09 AM.
11-16-2007, 10:27 AM
#56
Heh...your right about that...if I had to do that, I might as well walk...since it would be the same amount of leg work with all that clutching...
11-16-2007, 10:30 AM
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Okay, so essentially the dealer tacked a bunch of crap on like the "gold package" and had you pay $41k for it. Not a particularly good deal, and you're still about $20k short of that 'vette, and about $40k away from a viper. But that's chump change for a big shot like you.
11-16-2007, 10:30 AM
#59
Got it...thanks for playing!
11-16-2007, 10:31 AM
#60
Okay, so essentially the dealer tacked a bunch of crap on like the "gold package" and had you pay $41k for it. Not a particularly good deal, and you're still about $20k short of that 'vette, and about $40k away from a viper. But that's chump change for a big shot like you.
I LOVE MY CAR...
11-16-2007, 11:27 AM
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Sorry can't resist. Too much reruns of Ally McBeal. 
11-16-2007, 01:14 PM
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My point is that torque converters give some mechanical advantage at low RPM's whereas clutches just burn off the RPM difference as heat and transfer only torque. Like I said, many cars AT's are quicker off the line if the clutch isn't dropped. Something with a power or gear ratio difference could quickly make this up though. What's the stall speed of the torque converter on the 8? Too low I'm guessing.
I can't say I agree with Taj's assertment that the MT won't pull away until 4th gear. I was thinking it should be more like 4k in first gear. I guess even that was too generous to the AT.
I can't say I agree with Taj's assertment that the MT won't pull away until 4th gear. I was thinking it should be more like 4k in first gear. I guess even that was too generous to the AT.
11-16-2007, 01:23 PM
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For all those immature children out there!
That is US $ right?? I paid....Canadian$$
April 30, 2007 - New 2006 GT, Velocity Red with sunroof...
List - $41,400
Dealer Discount - $4000 (+520 Pre Delivery Expense)
_______________________
MSRP $37,920
Freight $755
Air Tax $100
Fuel $75
Theft Pkg $299
Ext. Warr.(72/160km) $2349
Other(upgrades/MSKit)$6884 [All upgrades listed in sig.]
Gold Pkg. $895 (FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND AND NEED THINGS SPELT OUT...Gold Pkg. is electronic rust inhibitor, paint sealant & leather protectant)
All which I requested! Not the dealer tacking on anything...
__________________________
$49,277
License Fee $75
Tax(7%gst,8%pst) $7400
_______________________
TOTAL: $56,754
MINUS (-$4000 Dealer)
-$7400 No Tax
-$1000 Cash Back
- $700 Sold OEM Rims
-$5055 No payments for 5 Months plus no service fee
___________
Total Savings $ 14,155 ($18,155 total with 4000 already subtracted above. Also forgot to add the $3500 in free upgrades, totalling $21,655)
TOTAL: $56,754
SAVINGS: $14,155 { $9,100 (not including free payments)}
_________
$42,599 In reality really paid... [$39,099 with $3500 Performance Pkg.]
I got don't pay for 5 months, 1000 cash back $13, 500 down, $3500 Free Performance Pkg. and free oil changes for 1 year! No installation charges on my upgrades- (Paid for - Full MS bumper and spoiler). Also got $4000 off the list price for the 2006 which I purchased in April and picked up in May. Almost forgot 0.9% Financing!!3yrs.
That is US $ right?? I paid....Canadian$$
April 30, 2007 - New 2006 GT, Velocity Red with sunroof...
List - $41,400
Dealer Discount - $4000 (+520 Pre Delivery Expense)
_______________________
MSRP $37,920
Freight $755
Air Tax $100
Fuel $75
Theft Pkg $299
Ext. Warr.(72/160km) $2349
Other(upgrades/MSKit)$6884 [All upgrades listed in sig.]
Gold Pkg. $895 (FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T UNDERSTAND AND NEED THINGS SPELT OUT...Gold Pkg. is electronic rust inhibitor, paint sealant & leather protectant)
All which I requested! Not the dealer tacking on anything...
__________________________
$49,277
License Fee $75
Tax(7%gst,8%pst) $7400
_______________________
TOTAL: $56,754
MINUS (-$4000 Dealer)
-$7400 No Tax
-$1000 Cash Back
- $700 Sold OEM Rims
-$5055 No payments for 5 Months plus no service fee
___________
Total Savings $ 14,155 ($18,155 total with 4000 already subtracted above. Also forgot to add the $3500 in free upgrades, totalling $21,655)
TOTAL: $56,754
SAVINGS: $14,155 { $9,100 (not including free payments)}
_________
$42,599 In reality really paid... [$39,099 with $3500 Performance Pkg.]
I got don't pay for 5 months, 1000 cash back $13, 500 down, $3500 Free Performance Pkg. and free oil changes for 1 year! No installation charges on my upgrades- (Paid for - Full MS bumper and spoiler). Also got $4000 off the list price for the 2006 which I purchased in April and picked up in May. Almost forgot 0.9% Financing!!3yrs.
11-16-2007, 01:30 PM
#67
Give it a rest...
Think before you post... I wanted and requested the gold pkg. and the extended warranty. I plan on keeping my car.
Lets see you try to get all of that! I went in with a list of what I wanted and walked out with that and even more... No one can understand the savings I got including the sales people at the dealership who I personally know. They told me the dealership didn't profit much on my car. Thank you!
[I got don't pay for 5 months-no fees were charged to me, 1000 cash back, $3500 Free Performance Pkg. and free oil changes for 1 year-at my request! No installation charges on my upgrades- (Paid for - Full MS bumper and spoiler). Also got $4000 off the list price for the 2006 which I purchased in April and picked up in May. Almost forgot 0.9% Financing!!3yrs.& NO TAX!]
Think before you post... I wanted and requested the gold pkg. and the extended warranty. I plan on keeping my car.
Lets see you try to get all of that! I went in with a list of what I wanted and walked out with that and even more... No one can understand the savings I got including the sales people at the dealership who I personally know. They told me the dealership didn't profit much on my car. Thank you!
[I got don't pay for 5 months-no fees were charged to me, 1000 cash back, $3500 Free Performance Pkg. and free oil changes for 1 year-at my request! No installation charges on my upgrades- (Paid for - Full MS bumper and spoiler). Also got $4000 off the list price for the 2006 which I purchased in April and picked up in May. Almost forgot 0.9% Financing!!3yrs.& NO TAX!]
Last edited by Leesha; 11-16-2007 at 02:46 PM.
11-16-2007, 01:40 PM
#68
Give it a rest...
Lets see you try to get all of that! I went in with a list of what I wanted and walked out with that and even more... No one can understand the savings I got including the sales people at the dealership who I personally know. They told me the dealership made no $$ on my car. Thank you!
[I got no payments for 5 months and no fees were charged to me, 1000 cash back, $3500 Free Performance Pkg. and free oil changes for 1 year-at my request! No installation charges on my upgrades- (Paid for - Full MS bumper and spoiler). Also got $4000 off the list price for the 2006 which I purchased in April and picked up in May. Almost forgot 0.9% Financing!!3yrs.& NO TAX!]
Lets see you try to get all of that! I went in with a list of what I wanted and walked out with that and even more... No one can understand the savings I got including the sales people at the dealership who I personally know. They told me the dealership made no $$ on my car. Thank you!
[I got no payments for 5 months and no fees were charged to me, 1000 cash back, $3500 Free Performance Pkg. and free oil changes for 1 year-at my request! No installation charges on my upgrades- (Paid for - Full MS bumper and spoiler). Also got $4000 off the list price for the 2006 which I purchased in April and picked up in May. Almost forgot 0.9% Financing!!3yrs.& NO TAX!]
But if it makes you feel better...then by all means go ahead and feel better...
I was going to continue to fix it...but gave up...
11-16-2007, 01:45 PM
#69
I also got a cheque for $1000 which I wasn't suppose to get. It was either 5months no payment or that. And to top all that off I got the free oil changes and $3500 in free upgrades on top of what I requested. Lets not forget no GST or PSt-no tax!
Bottom line ... I know the owner and this is why I got these savings!! Didn't have to sleep with anyone either!!
Last edited by Leesha; 11-16-2007 at 01:54 PM.
11-16-2007, 01:57 PM
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You got your payments deffered for 5 months, you are not saving that money... You only got 4k off MSRP for a leftover 2006 model in 2007, they made money on your car alone and then made thousands more from all the options you added.
11-16-2007, 01:57 PM
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Give it a rest...
Think before you post... I wanted and requested the gold pkg. and the extended warranty. I plan on keeping my car.
Lets see you try to get all of that! I went in with a list of what I wanted and walked out with that and even more... No one can understand the savings I got including the sales people at the dealership who I personally know. They told me the dealership made no $$ on my car. Thank you!
[I got don't pay for 5 months-no fees were charged to me, 1000 cash back, $3500 Free Performance Pkg. and free oil changes for 1 year-at my request! No installation charges on my upgrades- (Paid for - Full MS bumper and spoiler). Also got $4000 off the list price for the 2006 which I purchased in April and picked up in May. Almost forgot 0.9% Financing!!3yrs.& NO TAX!]
Think before you post... I wanted and requested the gold pkg. and the extended warranty. I plan on keeping my car.
Lets see you try to get all of that! I went in with a list of what I wanted and walked out with that and even more... No one can understand the savings I got including the sales people at the dealership who I personally know. They told me the dealership made no $$ on my car. Thank you!
[I got don't pay for 5 months-no fees were charged to me, 1000 cash back, $3500 Free Performance Pkg. and free oil changes for 1 year-at my request! No installation charges on my upgrades- (Paid for - Full MS bumper and spoiler). Also got $4000 off the list price for the 2006 which I purchased in April and picked up in May. Almost forgot 0.9% Financing!!3yrs.& NO TAX!]
Yes, you SAVED so much by paying $41000 for a $30000 car!!! Shrewd like an Arab trader, you are!
11-16-2007, 01:59 PM
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11-16-2007, 01:59 PM
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4 k + 7400 taxes + 1000 cash back + installation charges + free oil changes
BTW I wanted the 06 because 07's didn't come with the red and blk interior...
BTW I wanted the 06 because 07's didn't come with the red and blk interior...
Last edited by Leesha; 11-16-2007 at 02:05 PM.
11-16-2007, 02:01 PM
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