TiGray8

Has anyone tried the Continental ContiExtremeContact on their 8?

MyShinka

I was not a huge fan of the Zero Nero M/S. I had them on my SPEC-V but was not impressed.

I think the Falkens are better. They have the new A/S that replaced the 512's and the 512's were really great.

I actually went with winter tires. I just picked up Dunlop M3's for my Jersey winter. A/S just don't cut it with the 8 for me.

nycgps

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I originally brought 2 sets of Proxes 4, 1 for my bro and 1 for me. Sidewall cut 3 times.

and I notice that their sidewalls are prone to damage, a little bump on the sidewalk result in a deep *cut* in the rubber*

My brother bitch about "my" choice of tires ...

I did try to contact Toyo but all they said was "You have to contact the dealer"

Well, Toyo, you lost a life time customer.

Switched to RE 960 A/S never have a problem since. BridgeStone FTW!

Maybe, 6 month periods with 3 sidewall cuts ? I think their sidewall provides no protection at all. and if u guys want I can take a picture of the tires on my bro's car right now. their Sidewall is just terrible.

Im thinking of getting Winter tires and mount them on my OEM wheels. I had 2 bent OEM Shinka wheels ... looking for cheap replacements ....

MyShinka

I did use the Conti A/S Extreme on another car and if I had to choose between the Zero Nero and the Conti I'd say the Nero was a better tire (not as good in snow). The Conti's were hard to control in the rain despite how good they look like they might handle.

If an A/S tire will be good enough for your needs I think the Falken's (or the Avon's) are the best dollar for dollar purchase.

Jedi54

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nycgps: that's really weird; there's a ton of guys here in SoCal (XdeedubbX, NgoRX8, FE3P, to name a few) running Toyo Proxes and I haven't heard any complaints.

w0rm

Maybe it's just me, but you shouldnt be 'bumping' anything on the sidewall. Are your rims a collection of curb rash?

My stock set of rubber only made it about 20k miles. Does this make me a bad person? Now(30k) my aftermarket rears are BALD. Time for a new set(although I bought these used) :

mac11

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The original owner of my 8 must have been a REAL pansy. I heard stories of the OEM bridgestones going in 15-20k miles as the norm. I bought the car with 10k miles on it with the bridgestones. I now have ~21k and it looks like I have a LOT of tread left. I also have tracked on these tires a few times (~400 track miles) and found them to be a competant tire there as well.


That being said I found out that the 06+ mustangs came with 17" wheels fitted with Pirelli Pzero Nero M+S tires from the factory. After reading some reviews and talking with a few owners that have these tires I went and picked up a set for my winter wheels. Got the wheels and tires with so few miles they still had all the little nubbies on them for $400 shipped to my door. boo-ya! hope they are as good as I have been told.

StewC625

The PZeroNero M+S is a GREAT dry tire, a reasonably good wet tire and a so-so snow tire. I'd rate the snow traction as somewhere between "Ok, I guess I"ll take the -8 out in the snow to pick up beer for the party if the choice is no beer for the party or driving my car in the snow" and "white knuckles".

After three winters and 40,000 miles, I give mine a "good enough to keep you out of the ditch, but just barely" rating in snow.

I'm pretty well sold on going with the Conti's for my next tires. The weather has been good so far so no hurry.

Stew

mac11

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Just for reference, did you ever put any weight in the back of the car for the winter months?

dmc27

Why not go w/snow tires? I had complete confidence in the snow w/the Dunlop Wintersport M3s. They were so good I had to work hard to really play in small amounts of snow.

Gives you a great excuse to get some new rims come spring, too.

"Why do I need new wheels? B/c the OEM set is for winter."

mac11

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I chose A/S over snow tires because in the past...5-10 years....winters around here have not constantly kept snow on the ground all winter. We will get a few inches of snow and within 12-24 hours it will be off the road and we won't get snow again for another week and sometimes for another several weeks. The roads will be dry, just cold ( so summer meat won't work) and under these conditions (dry roads) you will burn throgh dedicated snow tires fairly quickly as com[pared to a climate where you will run on an actual snow covered road 80% of the time. Doing it this way will allow me to swap to my winter tires a bit earlier, run them a bit later. This will keep me from running summer tires as the temperatues dip and will maximize the lifetime of my summer tires. Also I will not have to worry about replacing tires every other winter as I have longer lasting all season rubber. Under winter only driving these tires should last around 4-5 winters, maybe more, based on the mileage I typically drive - say 10,000 miles/year with winter wheels on. If they are good enough to get me through the snowy days I have once every week or 2, that makes the most of my $400 investment.

dmc27

Winter Sport is not the same as Dedicated Snow.

mac11

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was that directed towards me?

dmc27

Not really directed towards anyone. Just a general response to clear up any misunderstanding caused by me calling the Dunlop WinterSport M3 a snow tire. It's a wintersport, which is different from a dedicated snow tire.

StewC625

Answering several questions at once:

1) No - wheelspin isn't the problem, therefore no point in weight in the trunk - costs gas mileage and just unweights the fronts. - the traction control takes care of controlling wheelspin/rear traction nicely - it's just overall handling - like being on balbearings under the contact patches - the fronts slide, the rears spin. Ah what fun.

2) Why not snows? Well several reasons: first is I don't have a daily commute - I work from my home when not traveling for business. On days that I do have to travel or visit a local client, several options are available in crappy weather - public transportation, an airport limo service, catching a ride with a co-worker in the area, cabs.

Second reason is that here in the Chicago area, snow removal isn't just a governmental service, it's a politcal football. Ever since Michael Bilandic lost the mayoral election to Jane Byrne in the 1970s due to slow snow removal, every municipality removes the snow and salts the roads down to bare pavement within hours of completion of a snowfall. Literally, if we get 6" of snow, within 4 hours of it ending, the roads are down to brine and slush. It's amazing.

Third, is that I really haven't felt any dry performance degradation with my all-seasons compared to the summer tires. And when the temps fall below 45 degrees, the summer tires become USELESS and below 40 degrees are plain dangerous on dry pavement, where the all-seasons are just fine. Around here, 45 degree mornings start on 9/15 and end around May 15. 40 degree mornings are 10/1 through 5/1 - therefore, I'd be on snows more than on summer tires if I wanted my car to handle well on cool mornings.

So, all-seasons were the choice for me, and they have been terrific!

StewC625

You have to wait 12-24 hours for snow clearance? Wow, your mayor must not want to get re-elected!!! LOL

FYI, your decision trail and driving habits are the same as mine.

nycgps

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Before I got the Proxes 4 I did my research and saw a lot of good things about it.

Well, the roads and curbs in NYC .... they're like garbage. dont even think u can find an even road in NYC. and the curbs are like garbage as well. It took them 25 fuxking years to fix Manhattan bridge, and they just *brag* about it on the news couple days ago. like *After 25 Years of blah blah blah, Manhattan bridge will finally reopen on Oct 1*

I was like wow, congrat ur fuxking lations it took u 25 years to fix a fuxking bridge.

If it takes 25 years to fix a bridge in NYC, think of what kind of road and curb conditions are in this pos city.


I always try to avoid them as much as I could, but I do have lots of marks on my wheels. Cant help, things are too un-even.

Toyo Proxes 4 (ok, the 2 sets that I got) is the only brand and tire in my house (3 cars, 4 differeant brands) who has this stupid sidewall problem. ahh u guys will see.

nycgps

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First 2 Pic are *some* of the cuts on the tire itself

The Last 3 pic, First one rx8 with Bridgestone, SEcond one Proxes 4 on Brother's SER, Last one ... 95 quest with Goodyear.

Not sure about other Toyo Tires lineup but my 2 SETS of Proxes 4 got this *so easy to get cut sidewall* problems. freaking pissed me off (and my bro)

Bridgestone even Good years FTW !

astrozoom

I saw it snow once in Daytona while I went to ERAU, but I am getting ready to move to Oklahoma for a year, so I will probably have a great opportunity to do some snow driving then.

Ike

Holy curb rash! That is all your fault, but feel free to keep blaming the tires and the condition of the curbs and streets...

Phade2

Invest in some curb feelers.

velociti

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seriously man, jesus. no offense to you, but i feel bad for those rims. surely you live in a city, but that's just cruel.

Jedi54

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that's a lot of curb rash...

rotaryturtle

dude, do you look for curbs to hit? there is no way you should have that much damage to your rims and sidewalls. anyways, i recommend toyos or falkens.

mac11

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yup, blame the tire company because you suck at driving as much as you suck at engrish.