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Old 10-02-2007 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil_Hendrie_is_back
It's a dumb chick. Nothing wrong with overfilling the oil. They do that on purpose.
You're a douchebag.

Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me can comment on this, but I remember reading several posts about the dangers of overfilling the oil. Is it really ok to overfill by that much?
Old 10-02-2007 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by w0rm
Wow. If a couple of CELs...in 5 days
Haha, only on an RX-8 forum would anyone be so bewildered by someone not expecting multiple CELs within the first few days of ownership.
Old 10-02-2007 | 12:24 PM
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I've been driving my RX8 for over 60 thousand miles now, and when I still had the dealer maintenance program, I had them change the oil. They overfilled my oil by more than a quart more than once saying that it was on purpose. Personally, I found it to be idiotic, but the car didn't even shrug at having it done.

Had you posted on to the site prior to trading out of the car, I and many others would have tried to talk you off of the ledge explaining that overfilling of oil and a CEL aren't the end of the world. An owner trading out of the car because the warranty has run means nothing. Some people refuse to own a car without a warranty. It has no meaning as to whether the car had been properly taken care of. When you say thanks for nothing, what do you mean? What could we have told you? Buy the car back? The deal was done.

I have little interest in what the marketing department of Mazda calls the CX7. When I looked at it at the auto show, it screamed minivan to me, and I'm sticking with it. It's a narrow minivan; not a car based SUV. It looks to be a nice minivan, and I hope that you enjoy it, but if people on this forum call you a dumb chick it is because you did a deal on a car (the 8) that you most likely really bought out of enthusiasm then traded it on the car that you really needed and should have bought in the first place (the CX7) paying not just dealer profit, but a buyback bonus as well to the dealer. It sounds to me like buyer's remorse and nothing more, and I really do hope that you enjoy driving the minivan.
Old 10-02-2007 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
Haha, only on an RX-8 forum would anyone be so bewildered by someone not expecting multiple CELs within the first few days of ownership.
Having multiple CELs immediately is not and should not be normal, but she obviously found the reason rather quickly and for such a supposed background in car maintenance seemed to freak out over spilled milk.

I caught the local dealership here not changing my oil filter and didnt freak out. I simply got a refund and told them they would never touch my car again. Ever. That was also the last time a dealership ever touched my car for non TSB stuff.
Old 10-02-2007 | 01:20 PM
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I get my oil changed at the dealership. The last time the new oil was exactly at the full mark on the dipstick. Of course they have a senior Mazda tech that has been working on rotaries since the late 80s.

The service writer even asked me if it was ok for a apprentice to change my oil. He knows I normally ask for that senior tech, and wanted to make sure it was ok if a apprentice touched my car. I said as long as he was supervised I didn't have a problem with him doing an oil change. Probably got the most accurate oil fill I've ever had in a car. Guess I got lucky and got a good apprentice.

They also know I make sure to maintain my car properly and pay close attention to it. So maybe they are more careful with me than other customers, but I will still impressed with the accuracy.

I think it also helps that when i go in I say hi to all the guys. And I usually end up chatting with the rotary guy for quite awhile. He likes to talk and I figure I might learn something. I don't chat with them with the intent of getting better service, just being friendly. But if it gets me better service I'm not going to complain

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Old 10-02-2007 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by w0rm
Wow. If a couple of CELs Related to dealer oilchange screwups were enough to have you trade the 8 in in 5 days, peace.

Enjoy the CX-7, a car you openly said you would not have wanted initially.

I don't understand either reasoning..


Out of curiorsity, I am wondering what it is that she could have done if she was sure that she wanted to get rid of rx8? What would any of you have done if you were in her position?
Old 10-02-2007 | 01:37 PM
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Every single dealer service dept overfills oil from my experience.
You just need to explicitly tell them not to when you check your car in.
Old 10-02-2007 | 01:58 PM
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Old 10-02-2007 | 02:02 PM
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Please report that dealer to MNAO.

A little over filling is ok.

I wouldn't worry about 1/4 quart, but 1/2 or more................ has caused problems like Oil in the intake and the fouling the MAF sensor.
Old 10-02-2007 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil_Hendrie_is_back
It's a dumb chick. Nothing wrong with overfilling the oil. They do that on purpose.
WOW..
Lets not stereotype here guy. I have had my 8 for two years and I would question it if someone overfilled my oil, not that this has ever happened to me. That dosent make her a "dumb chick". Lets not be asses here.
Old 10-02-2007 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by saturn
You're a douchebag.

Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me can comment on this, but I remember reading several posts about the dangers of overfilling the oil. Is it really ok to overfill by that much?
Old 10-02-2007 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Pink Flea
WOW..
Lets not stereotype here guy. I have had my 8 for two years and I would question it if someone overfilled my oil, not that this has ever happened to me. That dosent make her a "dumb chick". Lets not be asses here.
he didn't say all chics are dumb because they are chics. he just said that she is a dumb chic. there are plenty of dumb dudes around too, if it makes you feel any better.
Old 10-02-2007 | 07:31 PM
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Well, lesson learned in my case. Through happenstance it turns out I use the same dealer as the OP. I'll make damn sure I tell them not to overfill my car..I check her often enough, and never seem to use much...now I know why. I thought I was doing something wrong or had really gotten lucky because in 21K miles I've gone through 2 quarts of oil personally...I do get my oil changed every 3K miles..but still..... I'm quite glad this lady posted this...In all the topics that I have seen discussed here, I've never seen a thread on this...True I have never looked....because it never occurred to me that there would be a need for one.

Thank you Rotorgirl for bringing this to my attention...and I hope that you find another 8 and are able to enjoy it very soon.
Old 10-02-2007 | 07:57 PM
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: Now that's a good one!!

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actually, I would trade the rx8 for the world, and now that I own the world, I own all the rx8s in the world!! muhahaha
(sorry, CWL132 getting to me)
Old 10-02-2007 | 08:13 PM
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Besides the fact that its an 8 the one best thing I love about my 8 is that its totally paid off..........MINE, MINE, MINE!!!!....muahaha....muahahahah..muahahahahahaha

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Old 10-02-2007 | 09:05 PM
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To all those who still think the CX-7 is a minivan. You tell me what minivan has a turbo charged in line 4 that has 240 horse and 250 foot pounds of torque? I'll smoke all those mini vans and even some of the v8's out there.
Old 10-02-2007 | 09:32 PM
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Grats Derex8! I'm hoping to pay mine off December of next year... Then FREE FREE (and mine mine mine)
Old 10-03-2007 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Phil_Hendrie_is_back
It's a dumb chick. Nothing wrong with overfilling the oil. They do that on purpose.
that is like the pot calling the kettle stupid..

beers
Old 10-03-2007 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
that is like the pot calling the kettle stupid..

beers
Actually, swoope, you are one dumb crazy dude. Many others, especially the ones on this forum for a long time, know it.

Yer dumb, dude. Try not to say **** about me from now on; you don't have a single thing that I've said in a post that is dumb, you dumb dick.
Old 10-03-2007 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by swoope
that is like the pot calling the kettle stupid..

beers
You may have noticed that I have very little tolerance for stupid people.

I have read your posts for a long time before I registered an account, and I knew a long time ago that you're a total screwball **** for brains. There is too much evidence for an objective person to deny that statement.

You, on the other hand, fixate on a handful of my posts from one thread. Not only did you not have enough information to make a conclusion about me, you also applied the wrong viewpoint. You judged me from the point of view of someone who is mechanically knowledgeable (I'm referring to you, ********) applying his own standard on someone without the same background IN AN UNREASONABLE WAY. In other words, despite your specific background that is relevant, you are one dumb ********. In fact, given my limited knowledge but willingness to ask critical questions and ability to sift through the **** and make inferences that happened to be right on, I was able to solve a problem with my car.

In fact, my car is running so well now that (A) mpg has averaged just over 22 mpg over the last 5 tanks (up 1.5 to 2.5 mpg compared to before the new spark plugs and coils; exact same driving conditions) and (B) my cat is running perfectly fine even 2 months later.

If you're going to call me stupid, you better back it, ********, because I can back it up when I call you not only a weirdo but a dumb weirdo. You and I may need to get together to solve our differences, if you continue to stalk me.
Old 10-03-2007 | 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mugatu
that remark just made my morning.

I know all about the oil overfilling situation from months ago. She said 3/4 quart before it got to the correct level. Even if the correct level is at the higher line, 3/4 quart isn't going to cause any problems. Are you making a general statement regarding oil filling?

Ever since the emissions recall came out, my dealer has been overfilling my oil a bit over the higher line. I have monitored things for many many months and checked my air filter for oil. Nothing has gone wrong. My gas mileage is higher than ever. I have 97,000 miles.

You had problems with your car?
Old 10-03-2007 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by rotogirl
okay guys. i understand why you might think i'm just a dumb chick who is overly obsessive. just so you know, i happen to be more knowledgable about cars than most "chicks". i am a former drag race driver who helped in building a few drag cars i my day. i learned alot in the garage i'll have you know. i also know it isn't too detrimental to overfill the rotary engine on occasion. i know it's a whole different animal and should be respected as such. i was completely prepared to care for such a car and had educated myself with as much history and literature as i could find. however, i had managed to contact the former owner of this particular 8 and was told by him that he had traded it in due to the fact that the warranty was about up. his statement was "it's not a car you want to have without a warranty." he also informed me that a dealership had actually overfilled it one time so severely that oil was coming out of the dipstick. i know i got the raw end of the deal at the dealership, but i won't have the suv forever. by the way, to whoever said it was a minivan, you don't know squat, it's an suv known as a crossover. and hey, at least it's got a turbo that responds as early as 2000rpm.
and just so some of you guys know, yeah i'm a woman, yeah i got spooked by the lack of knowledge AT THE SERVICE DEPT, not my own lack of knowledge........i have to drive my son around in this vehicle. these days it doesn't pay for a woman and child to be stranded on the side of the road. i'm not saying the 8's are junk, just that mine hadn't been cared for properly so as to insure that it was reliable. i hope someday to own another 8. just a new one with a warranty. sorry if some think i'm **** retentive and just like to gripe. i only wanted to inform people of the overfill issue at this dealer (even with piston engines) so that maybe someone will be mindful of their car and care enough to take the time to check and make sure their's is being taken care of so that it lasts them as long as possible. thanks for nothing guys and for underestimating a woman who knows what she's talking about but who respects men as the superior sex from a christian standpoint to the point that i will not elaborate on your obvious ignorance in many respects.
God bless you all-
Sorry, rotogirl, for jumping to conclusions. The additional info you provide in this post would seem to make a difference.

When I first joined the forum, even though I had been reading the forum for years, some dick jumped on me. He sees me as a noobie and thought he had a good reason but his assumptions and conclusions were simply unwarranted. And I find that I've done the same to you here, so I want to apologize. I don't want to be a ******** like the true ********* on this forum.

Please excuse me because I have one more ******** to address.
Old 10-03-2007 | 04:20 AM
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Phil Hendrie....I'm curious why as a lightweight in the RX8 game you would pick a fight with a heavyweight????

Its a sure bet you were going to lose...
Old 10-03-2007 | 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
You're a douchebag.

Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me can comment on this, but I remember reading several posts about the dangers of overfilling the oil. Is it really ok to overfill by that much?
I have been reading your crap for months. On the contrary, you are the true douchebag. Yes, you really are. And you know it.

When you say "more knowledgeable," do you mean someone who actually owns an RX8?

To give a complete *** a little credit, you sure have been less controversial (and your statements a lot less dumb) than you were a year ago. What happened?

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Old 10-03-2007 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by enforcer
Phil Hendrie....I'm curious why as a lightweight in the RX8 game you would pick a fight with a heavyweight????

Its a sure bet you were going to lose...
Swoope is not a heavyweight in anything that he does. Be careful about your assumptions. Review the relevant posts and note to yourself who started what. Also, be careful about jumping on a certain bandwagon and a certain side/faction. Be your own person, ok?

More social politics, hmm? You sure you want that?

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