At Transmission Problem
#26
youre a jackass and a troll. you do nothing but spread stupidity and create drama. manual mode is what it's called by mazda so hes not "associating" anything. and who says it sucks? you. where's your proof? nowhere. join a ****** kia forum and go away.
#27
Stop pretending you have a MT and leave it on "D".
I have an AT, yes I admit it, I use the paddles as I like to select what gear range the car is in to avoid my above first statement. Makes sense IMHO.
Take care,
Brian
#28
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The 86-91 rx7 automatic trans was an off the shelf MPV van transmission with a different bellhousing. The 93-95 FD, and I suspect the rx-8 4sp, is just a standard jatco unit used in many import rwd cars.
The paddles and M mode only serve to give the driver control over the shift solenoids, instead of letting the computer do it on it's own. The transmission itself is in no way better or modified than a "regular" transmission from any other "regular" automatic car without M mode.
#29
I drive a triptronic vehicle justifying my opinion on those types of transmissions.
#31
quoted for troof.
The 86-91 rx7 automatic trans was an off the shelf MPV van transmission with a different bellhousing. The 93-95 FD, and I suspect the rx-8 4sp, is just a standard jatco unit used in many import rwd cars.
The paddles and M mode only serve to give the driver control over the shift solenoids, instead of letting the computer do it on it's own. The transmission itself is in no way better or modified than a "regular" transmission from any other "regular" automatic car without M mode.
The 86-91 rx7 automatic trans was an off the shelf MPV van transmission with a different bellhousing. The 93-95 FD, and I suspect the rx-8 4sp, is just a standard jatco unit used in many import rwd cars.
The paddles and M mode only serve to give the driver control over the shift solenoids, instead of letting the computer do it on it's own. The transmission itself is in no way better or modified than a "regular" transmission from any other "regular" automatic car without M mode.
what you said was pretty much what I was saying
Even though the manual rx8 would be 1092409823409 times better. the auto rx8 is better then no rx8. Unfortunatly for some of us, all of the toys cant be ours and the wives need something to drive to.. Unfortunatly she got to pick this one and she doesnt want to have to deal with a clutch every day. My car, is a 5 spd and I wouldnt have it any other way. All of the auto bashing gets pretty annoying though
#32
My experience with the automatic is that it will not downshift to first if you slow down at a decent rate. If you slow down abruptly it'll go all the way to first, but if you do something gradual it'll stay in second. However, I've only noticed this while in second (I hate using third below 20 mph because there's no power there at all so I manually downshift at that point.)
I also get something of a lag from first to second, however as long as I'm around 4-6k RPMs it's relatively snappy. Lower than that causes shifts slightly slower (not more than about half a second or so though).
I was also under the impression that most automatic transmissions are programmed to slip a lot for comfort of passengers so lag is expected. My Altima's automatic definitely slipped a lot and it didn't feel terribly different from this car (from the points people have raised here it's entirely possible they have related transmissions although my Altima had a 5-speed auto).
I also get something of a lag from first to second, however as long as I'm around 4-6k RPMs it's relatively snappy. Lower than that causes shifts slightly slower (not more than about half a second or so though).
I was also under the impression that most automatic transmissions are programmed to slip a lot for comfort of passengers so lag is expected. My Altima's automatic definitely slipped a lot and it didn't feel terribly different from this car (from the points people have raised here it's entirely possible they have related transmissions although my Altima had a 5-speed auto).
#33
#34
The truth here, is that all you can really do until the thing fails in a significant manner (IE. the car stops moving) is change the fluid. No mechanic is going to take the transmission apart for you, just to satisfy your paranoia that something is wrong with your transmission unless you pay them to do it. How foolish would you feel if you paid 600 bucks for someone to take apart your transmission to tell you nothing is wrong with it, then have to put it back together and risk doing it wrong?
I really think you're just running up against the limitations of the automatic transmission. Want more control over your shifts? you need an MT, then you have complete control, for better or worse.
I really think you're just running up against the limitations of the automatic transmission. Want more control over your shifts? you need an MT, then you have complete control, for better or worse.
#38
once again, kia's nameless shitbox does not equal mazda's flagship sports car. the transmission is not the same, regardless of whether its the same type. your negligence of this is astounding.
#40
What's astonishing is how this thread has somehow gotten off track from its original purpose.
@ Rotard: do not expect to be taken seriously when you reference your experience driving a kia. Nobody will prefer your advice over someone with experience driving an AT 8, especially on an 8 forum, so you should stop trying. Coming into this thread and being an *** doesn't help the matter either.
@ Rotard: do not expect to be taken seriously when you reference your experience driving a kia. Nobody will prefer your advice over someone with experience driving an AT 8, especially on an 8 forum, so you should stop trying. Coming into this thread and being an *** doesn't help the matter either.
#41
Alright, so I did some recent tests involving the automatic in my RX-8 and I have been unable to get it to automatically shift from third to second at a stop, it just goes all the way to first no matter how gently I coast to a stop. I don't know if it would do this when it's cold because I don't drive it unless it's warmed up, but I'd assume shifting action shouldn't be too different.
Also, just as a little side note to Rotard
So you're saying the tiptronic transmission in a Kia is equal to the tiptronic transmission in other far more expensive cars? Just a quick check on Wikipedia (please don't start arguing about the source, a source-war is far from necessary here) shows that Aston Martin (calling it the Touchtronic), BMW (Steptronic), Audi, Mercedes-Benz (Activeshift), Subaru (Sportshift) and finally the granddaddy of them all, Porsche, all use Tiptronic transmissions (or variations on it. Tiptronic is a registered trademark of Porsche).
And also Kia calls their tiptronic system "Sportmatic" while Mazda calls it "Activematic". This certainly doesn't mean they're different, but doesn't help your argument that they're the same, either.
Edit: There are far more manufacturers that use tiptronic than listed here, I just picked those to illustrate the wide spread of manufacturers that use them. Pretty sure they don't all use the exact same tiptronic system.
Also, just as a little side note to Rotard
Originally Posted by Rotard
I drive a triptronic vehicle justifying my opinion on those types of transmissions.
And also Kia calls their tiptronic system "Sportmatic" while Mazda calls it "Activematic". This certainly doesn't mean they're different, but doesn't help your argument that they're the same, either.
Edit: There are far more manufacturers that use tiptronic than listed here, I just picked those to illustrate the wide spread of manufacturers that use them. Pretty sure they don't all use the exact same tiptronic system.
#42
When was the last time you flushed your trans? I flushed mine with Redline ATF and always down shifts when I want. Also shifts seems alittle firmer. I dont think this matters but I do have a large ATF cooler.
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