Upgraded starter available under warranty - tell me more!
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Originally Posted by sandia8
Like a heat shield that keeps the gas tank from melting. That’s not a fix, it's a Band-Aid.
So now that it's fixed on your car, feel free to be a moron and rev your car up for an hour without issues.
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Originally Posted by RevTo9K
That's my only beef with the way they approached this - I think this probably should have been a recall. The customer is at risk of possibly being stranded in cold weather. I was lucky; I was at home, and I have another car.
The parts itself have no problem, but over time when things degrade it's not going to be *Good enough* to do its job. So changing it to a faster(starter) and stronger(battery) part is a good thing. They change the plugs because Older software inject too much fuel that it actually damaged the plugs.
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Originally Posted by nycgps
This is not a recall because its not a Safety nor an Emission issue.
The parts itself have no problem, but over time when things degrade it's not going to be *Good enough* to do its job. So changing it to a faster(starter) and stronger(battery) part is a good thing. They change the plugs because Older software inject too much fuel that it actually damaged the plugs.
The parts itself have no problem, but over time when things degrade it's not going to be *Good enough* to do its job. So changing it to a faster(starter) and stronger(battery) part is a good thing. They change the plugs because Older software inject too much fuel that it actually damaged the plugs.
I would disagree that the parts are fine, and just degrade unacceptably over time, only because this issue has been known for a long time... I'm assuming that the problem occurred as early as mid-04, which caused Mazda to use a different starter and battery during assembly.
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this forum is run by FORD? where the hell is my paycheck then?
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Originally Posted by zoom44
well he is not encorez but he should probably not log on from work. im sure his employer would REALLY frown on that.
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Originally Posted by RevTo9K
Whether it's a safety issue is debatable. I think that a no-start condition whose likelihood increases in cold weather is a safety issue. You're right that it's not a 'flying-off-the-road-in-flames' issue.
I would disagree that the parts are fine, and just degrade unacceptably over time, only because this issue has been known for a long time... I'm assuming that the problem occurred as early as mid-04, which caused Mazda to use a different starter and battery during assembly.
I would disagree that the parts are fine, and just degrade unacceptably over time, only because this issue has been known for a long time... I'm assuming that the problem occurred as early as mid-04, which caused Mazda to use a different starter and battery during assembly.
All parts will degrade overtime. Even you dont use it (Science), Actually Im quite happy that Mazda is willing to do the updates. they changed the starter to a faster one so people can crank better. Same thing goes for the battery, for FREE. everybody is happy.
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this guy is the reason los alamos was losing nuke secrets, oh and it seems something else in life is wrong besides 'car' problems, what really is the source of your frustation sir? and make sure you let the DoD know how you hate this car as well.
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I took my car to my dealer (I say "my" - hadn't been there yet, decided to pick a different one than where I used to bring my 6 due to closer location) for its first oil change and to ensure the reflash was up to date. Right before my appt., we had some really cold weather and the car was very slow to crank. Not wanting to hit the new dealer with, "I've been reading on the internet and you should replace....," I simply told them I was having a very slow crank in the cold weather, hoping they'd show me some sharpness and pick up on it. Without even a hiccup, they called to tell me it was finished, and that they went ahead and replaced the plugs, starter and battery, all under the bulletin, free of charge.
Even in the single-digit temperatures we've been having a couple nights in a row now, my car roars to life almost immediately (this morning, at 9 degrees, took a second or so to fire up) with a much "tighter" crank and sharper growl at startup. Props to North Penn Mazda in PA.
Even in the single-digit temperatures we've been having a couple nights in a row now, my car roars to life almost immediately (this morning, at 9 degrees, took a second or so to fire up) with a much "tighter" crank and sharper growl at startup. Props to North Penn Mazda in PA.
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Originally Posted by sonicblue6
Without even a hiccup, they called to tell me it was finished, and that they went ahead and replaced the plugs, starter and battery, all under the bulletin, free of charge.
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I took my RX-8 in for the 30,000 mile service. The car was running fine prior to service. I get the car back and there is a hesitation in 1st gear at low RPM's. The dealer takes it back and installs a new starter, alternator and battery. I get the car back again and the hesitation is less but still there. The dealer now wants to replace my motor. They tech at the dealer said that the the quantity of oil into the seals was adjsuted to meet emmission standards, however the flow of oil to the seals is not adequte at high R.P.M.'s,(over 7000 RPM's) and is causing seal reliability problems. The pansy automatic is not having a problem in most cases due to the lower RPM redline in the auto's. I'll come back after all is done and let you know what happens after the new motor installation. I am still asking, "is this problem corrected in the motor". No answer yet.
Luv my rotor for an old fart and miss the performance I had prior to taking it to the dealer for service.
"Anything with a curve can be a delight"!
PS: My wife still thinks I just got the 626 painted.
Luv my rotor for an old fart and miss the performance I had prior to taking it to the dealer for service.
"Anything with a curve can be a delight"!
PS: My wife still thinks I just got the 626 painted.
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Originally Posted by PaPaBear
I took my RX-8 in for the 30,000 mile service. The car was running fine prior to service. I get the car back and there is a hesitation in 1st gear at low RPM's. The dealer takes it back and installs a new starter, alternator and battery. I get the car back again and the hesitation is less but still there. The dealer now wants to replace my motor. They tech at the dealer said that the the quantity of oil into the seals was adjsuted to meet emmission standards, however the flow of oil to the seals is not adequte at high R.P.M.'s,(over 7000 RPM's) and is causing seal reliability problems. The pansy automatic is not having a problem in most cases due to the lower RPM redline in the auto's. I'll come back after all is done and let you know what happens after the new motor installation. I am still asking, "is this problem corrected in the motor". No answer yet.
Luv my rotor for an old fart and miss the performance I had prior to taking it to the dealer for service.
"Anything with a curve can be a delight"!
PS: My wife still thinks I just got the 626 painted.
Luv my rotor for an old fart and miss the performance I had prior to taking it to the dealer for service.
"Anything with a curve can be a delight"!
PS: My wife still thinks I just got the 626 painted.
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Just received a call from the dealer. My new engine will be in Miami this Friday. Start installation next Monday, free loaner in interim. I will be monitoring every aspect of the new motor and post any problems I may have. Dam it, great handling and comfort and this crap happens. I was trying to schedule for Chin event and now will just watch from the sidelines.
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