US RX-8 sales (not good)
03-07-2006 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sti_eric
First, the RX-8 suspension isn't THAT much softer than the STi. The average person would probably have a hard time differentiating between the two. It's not like the difference between a 7 series and a Lotus Elise. Second, the boxer engine, like the rotary, is designed to fit low and far back in the engine compartment. Third, you missed the biggest difference and the only thing worth talking about: body roll. RX-8 is minimal and the STi is moderate. However, when you talk about the Evo (another econobox platform), it has less body roll and way less understeer.
As far as the boxer goes, yep it's a nice layout (I owned a WRX), but neither the 2.0 or 2.5 are midship nor are their COG's as low as the 13B-MSP's (made possible partly because of the compact size of the rotary and also because of the platform used).
Originally Posted by sti_eric
The point of my story is that I forgot what car I was in. In the STi, stomping the accelerator = bye bye. In the RX-8, you have to be sure that the rpms are above 6000. Below 6000 it accelerates like my parents' Toyota Sienna minivan. At the track, no matter what car you drive, you have to be sure that you are in the correct gear all the time. It's nice on the street to not have to do that.
03-07-2006 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by mkaresh
A bigger problem is that the new MX-5 in its first year isn't doing so well. I'd have thought many previous owners would be dying to get their hands on the new car. Maybe they just aren't producing many--need to check inventory levels.
Similarly, the MS-6 and Mazda5 are piling up on lots around here. I hope they're doing better elsewhere.
Similarly, the MS-6 and Mazda5 are piling up on lots around here. I hope they're doing better elsewhere.
03-07-2006 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Deslock
Personally, I dislike turbo lag and I'd rather have a more responsive throttle even that means making less power and having to shift more... to each his own.
03-07-2006 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mkaresh
A bigger problem is that the new MX-5 in its first year isn't doing so well. I'd have thought many previous owners would be dying to get their hands on the new car. Maybe they just aren't producing many--need to check inventory levels.
03-07-2006 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Deslock
...I dislike turbo lag and I'd rather have a more responsive throttle even that means making less power and having to shift more... to each his own.
03-07-2006 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Deslock
I'm surprised and, frankly, confused by your comments. The STI is known to have a *significantly* stiffer ride and less body roll than the the RX8 (and comparing my 2004 RX8 6MT to the stock 2005 STI I drove supports this). I'm puzzled that you found the differences to be opposite of that. I also don't think body roll is "the only thing worth talking about" (as you put it).
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