Roaddemon

I figure it out this way, 3 weeks per tank in winter, and 4 weeks per tank in summer. How's that for great gas mileage? I live 2 miles from work and joy ride alot or I'd never get to drive it.

zoom44

why would they expect 20?

BunnyGirl

AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

We do MPG, not MPT!!!!! Number of miles driven divided by number of gallons purchased on fill-up. Not number per tank or number of miles driven divided by total gallon volume in tank!!!!!

Raptor2k

You have driven the Bunny insane

Animals have feelings too, people

And wow: this thread just exploded, lemme catch up

Japan8

I don't think he meant they expected to sell 100,000 cars. They probably expected to sell 70,000 cars. 100,000 cars was their "high" number... the most number of cars their thought they could feasibly sell, but not necessarily will sell.



No joke. I said it once and I'll keep saying until they get it. Years ago they offered the auto tranny as an option which cost more. Now that much of the market has taken to autos, why no just swap the situation... make manuals an option that costs more? The transmission is actually cheaper to make so they can make up R&D or whatever costs by charging extra for it. And those of us who want one will pay, because we absolutely won't drive automatics. Simple and should make the bean counters happy. So why haven't these idiots figured it out yet?

BunnyGirl

Stupidity.

captain mercury

hey now...
thats a truly unfair assumption. although i can see a few people miscalculating (ie miles per tank capacity etc.), im willing to bet most people AREN'T that stupid...including myself. i get from 12-16 miles a gallon, which i consider pretty bad, albeit expected from this car.
lets hope youre one of the lucky ones who gets around 20 so you can continue to insult our intelligence.

BunnyGirl

Well, since the majority posting on here in the last month or two keep saying "I get x miles per tank" it's a pretty safe bet to assume stupidity if they can't even calculate it out before complaining about the "rotten" mileage they get.

I do expect to get 20 or better considering whichever new job I take, it is country roads and then freeway, so I would have 95% highway driving the majority of the time.

The people I know well that have RX-8's get over 20. One has an 04 auto and averages 20. One has an 04 manual and gets 22-23. I am not particularly worried. If I get 18 or better I am meeting the estimated mileage and can't complain.

captain mercury

well anyway, i'm pretty sure you noticed gas mileage is ALWAYS listed as a 'con' for the rx-8, which would make it a common problem for a lot of owners...not just the stupid ones.

don't get too arrogant before you get a few tanks under your belt.

i'm not trying to start a fight, i promise, but some of us get bad mileage even with a decent brain in our skulls.

Ike

I'm going to laugh my *** off when Bunny is one of those people that get 15mpg or less no matter how they drive.

captain mercury

me too...
but i wouldnt wish that on anyone.

nranly

Car and Driver- December 2003, June 2004, March 2005, June 2005, August 2005, September 2005 (Twice, no actual ad but still good press), etc.

And its kinda cool that none of the ads were the same in each of those issues.

Edit: oops, May 2005 has a repeat ad.

swerver

just my two cents. I checked via the internet at all the Mazda dealerships in my relatively local area. There are a grand total of three '05's left out there AND all three are the really ridiculous add-everything $34,000 ones..............

Exegeses

Why does every thread turn into the same old mileage debate...

Some things will never changes...

Taxes...

Death...

RX8 Mileage Threads...

Anyway, mine is getting 19.5 MPG on mostly highway

Miker

It's a halo car, albeit a halo car that sells at a seriously lower price point than halo cars like the NSX or Viper. Mazda is about to overtake Honda in Canada with the 3...which has a huge buzz now in the younger Civic demo. They'll let it disappear and come out with the FI version for the quarter mile crowd. And we'll have nice reminders of what marketing will do...I hope everybody locked in their residual lease values!

6speed8

One of the problems is several long term tests of the RX-8 resulted in the testers complaining of poor MPG and having to ADD oil. That scares the average car buyer.

Another issue is the actual HP. HP numbers help sell sports cars. 232 hp not only seems LOW, but it is a terrible number. 232 hp to push 3000 lbs!

The recalls haven't helped either.

This is what the RX-8 needs to have (IMO):

300 hp (Honest figure)
20 mpg city 28 mpg hwy (Honest figures)
one touch buttons (both windows and roof)
free spark plug replacement up to 100,000 miles

Options
Voice navigation
Blue tooth capability
iPod (or similar) hookup
Better stereo
More color choices
Power rear side windows

saturn

I'm with you on the hp. The gas mileage seems impossible, but would certainly be nice.

Everything else I just don't understand. No one looks at this car and says, I demand one touch buttons for my moonroof. It just doesn't matter that much. It's not a selling point in this kind of car. The spark plug thing isn't even worth acknowledging.

Your options are not things you find on $30k cars. Or sports cars at all. I just don't understand why anyone would expect these things to be something Mazda should bother offering. But, to each his own I suppose.

khtm

Yeah I've gotten as low as 13 mpg more than once...and if I calculated it wrong I guess I should go tear up my engineering degree.

The 8 definitely aint conservative on gas...I'm not complaining as I knew what I was getting into.

...but it seems like some lucky bastads get the advertised MPG.

SoFL_RX8

I average 14-16 mpg if I drive and enjoy it. I get 15-18 if I watch myself and never really enjoy driving much. Guess how Ive decided to drive all the time?

Pay the extra coin for the fun, it part of owning the car... thats how I justify it. I sleep alright. :P

6speed8

Plenty of cars under 30k Give one touch down/up - open/close buttons.
Most cars will go 100k miles without needing spark plugs (the RX-8 goes 37k).
The Bose stereo (which is the premium one) is kinda lame, less expensive cars come with much better ones.
It would be nice if we could open/close the rear side windows from the driver seat


These things are part of the reason WHY sales are slowing down. If the RX-8 sales do not meet expectations we can forget about any future RX-7 type resurrection.

BunnyGirl

I'm not saying EVERYONE is doing it wrong, but a lot of people are. It was obvious when they were explaining how they did it, or just refer to it in terms of tanks and how many miles they got out of the tank, like they drove it until it was bone dry and dead and then filled up again. People like that either have no idea how to calculate their mileage properly or are too lazy to actually figure it out and then complain that their mileage is terrible based on these abstract numbers they are guestimating in their head. A lot of people would "have" much better mileage if they actually calculated right, so it makes me wonder how many of these "terrible mileage" people are doing it wrong or if their numbers are legitimately that low, like the person who seems to consistently have somewhere around 9 MPG. That's just ridiculous. It is beyond me how it can be rated by Mazda to get 18-24 on average and the EPA says that reflects a true range of 15-28 and numerous people don't seem to get the bottom end and a majority on here are just over the very bottom end. If it was that widespread the numbers would have to be changed on the ratings or it is flat out fraud.

Ike

It's no secret that EPA ratings are a joke.

Tirminyl

How the hell did this turn into another mpg thread?

saturn

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I have never heard of anyone mention anything about any of those issues in any magazine or anywhere else on this forum before. To me it's clear that the isues with sales involve power, gas mileage, and oil consumption. That and the lack of a helper monkey being included for free are the real problems.

khtm

Maybe there's other factors like:

- the Renesis sucks gas like crazy when idling (did Mazda idle at all while testing out the mileage ratings?)...moreso than any other car I've driven...I can't remember how many times the gas light has came on while I was warming her up.

- in cold weather does the rotary engine perform worse than a piston engine?

- does elevation affect a rotary engine more than a piston engine in terms of lack of power?

I dunno...just throwing it out there. It seems like too many people have had terrible gas mileage for it to be entirely blamed on them being idiots. There seems to be some pretty smart people on this forum, compared to lots of other forums, save for the young kids whose parents bought the car for them.