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Old 03-25-2013 | 10:17 PM
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On Verge of Purchasing an RX-8!

I am on the verge of purchasing a 2004 RX-8 6 Speed. The car has 45k Miles and is in Yellow. The agreed price is $10,199. Seller and I have agreed on a basic mechanical inspection as well as compression and ignition checks. If the car passes I will pay the associated fees (how much would cost be in PA/NJ/NYC? I'll check the regional forums as well). If the car does not pass I will either negotiate a much lower price or walk away(most likely solution, doubt it fails though). Given the test drive and my personal inspection I did not sense any problems. In fact cosmetically the car is perfect. A little water in the taillight but nothing else. I contacted Mazda and the Cat was changed, but back in 2004 as part of a recall/tsb, as well as a control arm fix(?) This was confusing to me, Mazda rep was vague. The seller mentioned flooding it once but again long ago ~05. My only concern is the carfax. It jumps from 2006 to 2010 without a log and about 15k miles. Seller claims jiffylube oil changes and other routine things done DIY. Also says changed plugs and coils at 30K at the dealer. Seller has been very accommodating and honest, but I need to be careful. I read all the stickys hopefully I didn't miss anything. If I did let me know. Again thanks for reading, hopefully I'll be here on a permanent basis. If this belongs in the purchasing sections I am sorry, I wanted to say Hi to all.
Old 03-25-2013 | 10:19 PM
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On Verge of Purchasing an RX-8!

I am on the verge of purchasing a 2004 RX-8 6 Speed. The car has 45k Miles and is in Yellow. The agreed price is $10,199. Seller and I have agreed on a basic mechanical inspection as well as compression and ignition checks. If the car passes I will pay the associated fees (how much would cost be in PA/NJ/NYC? I'll check the regional forums as well). If the car does not pass I will either negotiate a much lower price or walk away(most likely solution, doubt it fails though). Given the test drive and my personal inspection I did not sense any problems. In fact cosmetically the car is perfect. A little water in the taillight but nothing else. I contacted Mazda and the Cat was changed, but back in 2004 as part of a recall/tsb, as well as a control arm fix(?) This was confusing to me, Mazda rep was vague. The seller mentioned flooding it once but again long ago ~05. My only concern is the carfax. It jumps from 2006 to 2010 without a log and about 15k miles. Seller claims jiffylube oil changes and other routine things done DIY. Also says changed plugs and coils at 30K at the dealer. Seller has been very accommodating and honest, but I need to be careful. I read all the stickys hopefully I didn't miss anything. If I did let me know. Again thanks for reading, hopefully I'll be here on a permanent basis.
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you can get an 06 with that money man for suree and if dont pass the compression test just walk away believe me just mi 02 cents
anyways welcome
Old 03-25-2013 | 11:28 PM
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you can get an 06 with that money man for suree and if dont pass the compression test just walk away believe me just mi 02 cents
anyways welcome
Appreciate the response. The car is absolutely mint. All options except nav. Low mileage as well. Best Price and value proposition in my area.
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If everything checks out fine, then go for it. Maybe try to negotiate on the price down a bit...good luck!
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If everything checks out fine, then go for it. Maybe try to negotiate on the price down a bit...good luck!
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for $10k you should be able to find a newer rx8 that still has warranty
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Originally Posted by s.ayub
I am on the verge of purchasing a 2004 RX-8 6 Speed. The car has 45k Miles and is in Yellow. The agreed price is $10,199. Seller and I have agreed on a basic mechanical inspection as well as compression and ignition checks. If the car passes I will pay the associated fees (how much would cost be in PA/NJ/NYC? I'll check the regional forums as well). If the car does not pass I will either negotiate a much lower price or walk away(most likely solution, doubt it fails though). Given the test drive and my personal inspection I did not sense any problems. In fact cosmetically the car is perfect. A little water in the taillight but nothing else. I contacted Mazda and the Cat was changed, but back in 2004 as part of a recall/tsb, as well as a control arm fix(?) This was confusing to me, Mazda rep was vague. The seller mentioned flooding it once but again long ago ~05. My only concern is the carfax. It jumps from 2006 to 2010 without a log and about 15k miles. Seller claims jiffylube oil changes and other routine things done DIY. Also says changed plugs and coils at 30K at the dealer. Seller has been very accommodating and honest, but I need to be careful. I read all the stickys hopefully I didn't miss anything. If I did let me know. Again thanks for reading, hopefully I'll be here on a permanent basis. If this belongs in the purchasing sections I am sorry, I wanted to say Hi to all.
Welcome, fellow yellow in K.C.,Mo. GT with 23k. Paid 14k with 18,500 mi.s loaded in pristine cond. Probably too much, but I fell in love with it after test drive. Have fun!
Old 03-26-2013 | 09:48 PM
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Welcome, fellow yellow in K.C.,Mo. GT with 23k. Paid 14k with 18,500 mi.s loaded in pristine cond. Probably too much, but I fell in love with it after test drive. Have fun!
Appreciate the welcome. I could not for the life of my find anything within 100 miles of me that was a better value proposition than the car I am about purchase. I am waiting on the compression results. Just to be clear I am looking for over 100psi or 7.1kg/cm2? Also no big differences(< approx. 15psi?) between each rotor face, or between rotor 1 and 2?
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IMO that is too much for that particular car. If the car in excellent condition then maybe 10, you need to be closer to around 7 or 8. For the amount you are about to pay you could perhaps be in a slitly newer vehicle. Don't just run and jump in a car because it's there. There are plenty of cars out there just take your time and find yourself a good deal. Everyone worries about Carfax and there is no guarantee that their data is accurate anyway. I can tell your for a fact there is tons of stuff about my car that is not on Carfax because I did it myself. Don't forget about NADA, that should be one your first stops when shopping for a used to car. You have already mentioned a compression test, as you know that is a must no matter what 8 you decide to purchase. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by s.ayub
Appreciate the welcome. I could not for the life of my find anything within 100 miles of me that was a better value proposition than the car I am about purchase. I am waiting on the compression results. Just to be clear I am looking for over 100psi or 7.1kg/cm2? Also no big differences(<
approx. 15psi?) between each rotor face, or between rotor 1 and 2?
Bon jour, I did a search ( rx-8 club compression psi ) & found a post that said Mazda spec was 120psi-98 min. I assume it's correct. You can also download a free service manual PDF. I can' t recall the site. Good luck.
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Wayy too much.

I've seen '04s around 5-6k now. Yes that is low miles but it's still an '04.
Old 03-27-2013 | 08:09 AM
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04 baby lol

let us know the comp #
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The RPM matters.

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...t-here-202454/


If they don't normalize it to 250rpm, then use this calculator to normalize it yourself: http://foxed.ca/index.php?page=rotarycalc
Old 03-27-2013 | 10:52 AM
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There are soooooo many variables with these cars (or any car) that can dictate what someone is willing to pay. That being said, this car sounds no better than maybe slightly above 'average' so I would expect to pay an average price, which as already mentioned, should be quite a bit better than $10,200. The mileage is good, but outside of that I see nothing in your description that should command a lofty premium.

The cars selling in the $5-6K range are probably beinging to get a little long in the tooth. If you can split the difference and fall somewhere in the $7500-8K range you'd probably be doing ok. Good luck.
Old 03-28-2013 | 01:42 AM
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Patience is key to purchasing a new vehicle. The rx8., such as any other car, requires maintenance in order for proper performance. Stay on top of these things and your rx8 will perform very nicely.
Old 03-28-2013 | 09:18 AM
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I don't know where you guys are getting 5k or 6k RX-8's from. I searched for a while and could not at all find anything with this price in this condition. Maybe the price is a little high(~1/200) but for my purposes I think it is worth it. Hopefully the inspection goes off without a hitch. I looked into an '06 last summer with around 50K miles and even that was listed at $12.5.
Old 03-28-2013 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RIWWP
The RPM matters.

https://www.rx8club.com/rx-8-discuss...t-here-202454/

If they don't normalize it to 250rpm, then use this calculator to normalize it yourself: Foxed.ca - Rotary Compression Calculator
Right, I know this. Maybe I didn't mention it. The seller was unable to pick up the car from the service lot. If I give a Mazda dealership a VIN number and tell em it's in service will they tell me the results?
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Maybe, maybe not, since you aren't the owner. Might have to get the seller to call the dealership.
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Maybe, maybe not, since you aren't the owner. Might have to get the seller to call the dealership.
Called the dealership near the seller and the tech told me the car failed compression. It was below spec. I won't be touching it even at a reduced price, it isn't worth the hassle. Thanks for everyone's help and the previous posts. This place is a great asset for anyone interested in an RX-8. Give yourselves a pat on the back, you saved me!
Old 03-28-2013 | 01:05 PM
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Called the dealership near the seller and the tech told me the car failed compression. It was below spec. I won't be touching it even at a reduced price, it isn't worth the hassle. Thanks for everyone's help and the previous posts. This place is a great asset for anyone interested in an RX-8. Give yourselves a pat on the back, you saved me!
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Originally Posted by s.ayub
Called the dealership near the seller and the tech told me the car failed compression. It was below spec. I won't be touching it even at a reduced price, it isn't worth the hassle. Thanks for everyone's help and the previous posts. This place is a great asset for anyone interested in an RX-8. Give yourselves a pat on the back, you saved me!
You actually saved yourself by actually doing some research before you purchased the vehicle, especially at the price he was asking. I can assure you some knuckle head will buy that car and then come here and complain about how crappy RX8's are. Keep looking you will find one!
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