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Old 10-05-2006, 09:12 PM
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that really hurts to see man! hope all the claims go ok.

not to rub salt in the wound, but you might wanna start carrying everything outta yur car at nite. outta sight, outta mind.
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Originally Posted by Stavesacre21
that really hurts to see man! hope all the claims go ok.

not to rub salt in the wound, but you might wanna start carrying everything outta yur car at nite. outta sight, outta mind.
He didn't leave his laptop in his car overnight. He put it in the car, went back in to brush his teeth and get the rest of his stuff, and that's when it happened. It sucks that he was good about all the rules. Who would think somebody would break into a car at 8 am?
Old 10-05-2006, 11:57 PM
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thats what everyone around the hotel and coworkers were saying... they had some ***** doing this at 8 in the ******* moring when its bright and (usually) people around... thanks again for everyone's kind words.
Old 10-06-2006, 12:08 AM
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Sorry to hear dude. That is totally fucked up... and at 8am?! Un-f***ing-believable...
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Is there a way to use his laptop and the internet to track down his computer? Or hack into it and pull out anything the new owner tries to put on it -like home addresses? If they plug it in it will respond - you computer Geeks - got any ideas here?
Old 10-06-2006, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Winfree
Is there a way to use his laptop and the internet to track down his computer? Or hack into it and pull out anything the new owner tries to put on it -like home addresses? If they plug it in it will respond - you computer Geeks - got any ideas here?
There is no way.

1. You wouldn't know the IP they would be using the laptop from.
2. There is a way using a keylogger that uploads info to a server IF you install it before it gets stolen.
3. Chances are is it's at a pawn shop, and the guy that did this is out buying crack

Anyways, man, toxin, I'm really sorry to hear about this. I havn't really been on the boards very much the past couple days, and just saw this tonight. You don't think it was business related do you, since they took your briefcase/laptop... I've known some shady stuff to happen when there is a lot of money involved.
Old 10-06-2006, 02:10 AM
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the thought struck my mind - but it would have to be some far out crazy **** for say... a rival? hiring some goons to track me and bust into my **** specifically targeting my laptop and data on it for work.
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Originally Posted by zenmoused
He didn't leave his laptop in his car overnight. He put it in the car, went back in to brush his teeth and get the rest of his stuff, and that's when it happened.
wow, totally missed that lil detail. i'm a lil in disbelief about that...some friggin people.

musta had a few too many to do something that stupid.
Old 10-06-2006, 08:01 PM
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Yeah--- that's a pretty unlikely circumstance--- but I've always been one for conspiracy theories, haha. I hope everything works out for you, it really sucks because the only thing you can do about it is move on and fix the damage with the very unlikely chance of the person being caught. There really is no justice nowadays.
Old 10-06-2006, 09:01 PM
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Reccomendation if possible. Once these claims are settled, reduce your deductible. I had mine at 500 before I bought my 8. I reduced it to 0 on Comp and 50 on collision. You were being watched my dear. Whether it be espionage, or simple dumb luck, someone saw you put it in the car and walk away. Your habits were known. CHANGE them, erratically. I never take the same route home, stop at the same gas stations all the time, swap grocery stores, just being careful. It sucks to live this way, but I learned the hard way. I had my car broken into twice, BMW, first time it was audio, and second other stuff,plus got my business keys, and robbed the business. I walked in on them and about got killed. only thing saved me was the cameras....
Old 10-07-2006, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WinningBlueAlwaysWins
Lesson learned: don't leave valuables unattended in your car, and if you must, then at least conceal them under the seat, in the glove box, etc.
How about putting valuable items out of sight in the trunk? Don't store them in there but if your're away from the car I think the trunk is the safest place.
Old 10-12-2006, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by nycgps
That crap is even worst, you can say everything is hackable but trust me, its easier than you can imagine. AES-128 bit .... I almost past out when I saw that.

I just dont get it, why most MAC users got this false sense of security in their mind. Mac OS is easier to break than Windows/Linux.

Ok I'll stop, leave these stuff to somewhere else.
I don't know what experience you're speaking on, especially since there are no viruses or spyware for Mac, and in a third-party security evaluation Mac OS X had less than half the number of "backdoors" Windows XP has, and security updates are released on a regular basis.

Also, police departments and the FBI are completely stumped when they need to break into a suspect's Mac. They can completely shred Windows... but oddly enough the only guys who can deal wit Macs are the Canadian Mounties. The FBI sends their Macs to them.

Don't lecture me on Macs. I've used them for years, alongside Windows computers, and believe me, they're superior.
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They are superior, but the lack of experienced hackers is simply b/c windows is so prevalent that it's targeted more.

Why learn how to hack-a-mac when 90% of the population uses windows? Windows = higher returns.
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The biggest differents between MAC OS and Windows right now is the default user level that its on. but with Vista the *gap* between that is much smaller.

Police and FBIs cant break it because they suck, do you even know in defcon how many *macs* got owned there in a couple of minutes ? much worst than PCs that were there. and dont forget whoever goes to Defcon are *elite* hackers, FBIs gotta send agent there to *learn* every year, so what does that mean ?

Like dmc27 said, Windows got so many stuff because its a well established platform for years. its shell is easy to hook cuz of many *features* that they put in. and MOST of the Windows pc out there runs in Administrator mode (default), and most of those Windows PC users are morons who does not know what they're doing. Thats how Windows got their Bad Rep. Just like Rotary Engine.

Im not saying MACs are not good, its great for doing some stuff, but most Mac users just got this false sense of security, they think they're *secure*, but they're no more than any software out there, meaning it has its own problems, its just that the market is way too small for anyone to *give a damn* about it.

oh yeah It reminds me of something , a year or 2 ago when Mac OS 10.0.1 or something got this serious memory leak that was supposed to be fixed by Unix 20 30 years ago? and for some *odd* reason the old , unpatched code was *used* in Mac OS 20-30 something years later. Yes, great software. Great stability.

Stop hijacking this thread. PM me if you want to discuss about security.

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With me having a XPS Gen 2 (except i upgraded the video card to the 7800 after 6 months) I can sympathize.

and yes it is VERY easy to change a windows password and login. takes about 5 mins with a program called ERD Commander 2005

But guys if you going to be taking your laptop out of the house this program is almost a neccessity Low Jack for Laptops its for windows and macs.. if you laptop is stolen you can activate the program via the web and if the laptop gets on the internet it will tell you when and where it was. It's AWESOME!

I hope this kind of thing doesn't ever happen again... good luck man
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Its easy to change because most users does not change the default location. with a little bit of effort its going to make the task extremely diffcuclt. (still possible,but thats not something we will talk about in here)

Anyway, lets just hope that his laptop would explode ....
Old 10-12-2006, 02:43 PM
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Hey Toxin, check with the hotel they may have cameras in the lot. You never know
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He answered that question already. It was so bury plus the light , cant see ****.
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Originally Posted by Rootski
I don't know what experience you're speaking on, especially since there are no viruses or spyware for Mac, and in a third-party security evaluation Mac OS X had less than half the number of "backdoors" Windows XP has, and security updates are released on a regular basis.

Also, police departments and the FBI are completely stumped when they need to break into a suspect's Mac. They can completely shred Windows... but oddly enough the only guys who can deal wit Macs are the Canadian Mounties. The FBI sends their Macs to them.

Don't lecture me on Macs. I've used them for years, alongside Windows computers, and believe me, they're superior.
A buddy of mine used to maintain Mac networks, then his company switched to PCs. It took almost 4x the number of man-hours to maintain the PC networks due to multiple problems, including the abundance of security holes.
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I've only read the first and last pages of this, but I would NEVER keep any piece of electronics visible inside the car. Put your laptop in the trunk unless you can take it into the house. I got burned a few years ago when I had roughly $1500 worth of stuff stolen out of a civic in the span of about an hour at a sporting event. This is particularly true in southern states, where vehicle crime is out of control.

I'm on a mac right now! They're fantastic and I can even run windows if I have to for work.
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Getting car smashed and stuff stolen very upsetting - we have no cultural ceremonies for putting curses on enemies or reducing the tension this kind of stuff causes - but you know that you at least have folks out here that feel upset with you - hope you got good insurance!
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Are you guys sure there isn't anyway to hack your own computer? Have you contacted your carrier to see if they can help track it down?
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There are some programs out there (or you can write your own, its not that hard) that can alert yourself as soon as your computer is connected to the internet. but MOST people would not do that since they have no idea if its really legit or spyware (thats why you create your own!)

but I guess his laptop is gone .... hope the battery blows up ! Dude is a Dell !



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