bolda48

Only if it helps the performance, otherwise just extra weight.

wakeech

the M3 "spoiler" is subtle?? it's barely even there... i'm thinking something similar to the ducktail built into the boot lid on the Miata...

but again, if we're talking about high speed stability and net downforce (maybe just a "little", to be sure), diffusers at the front and back with careful underbody flow management is the only way to fly... or, no, NOT fly. :D

Maurice

This is still my favorite bodykit for the 8.

Hercules

Gahhhhh.... why can't people realize that the way the car is stock, is faster than with a body kit? :\

wakeech

<<sigh>> it's the SoCal scene, right??
it's all about style, and i'm all kinds of good with that, but not for me thanks...

again, PLEEEEEEEEEASE look toward actually fast cars to see what i mean by front and rear diffusers... and a duck tail spoiler would be rippin' too...

i'll try and find some links.

Grimace

It looks like its wearing braces.

wakeech

here's a good link to see what i'm talkin' about for that front diffuser (a la the R34 GT-R)

www.nissan.co.jp
click on the FRONT VEIW pic, and you'll get a pretty good look... sorry about the size, but i've got no ideas of where to look...

www.wrc.com
here's a pic of the Peugeot setup...

www.wrc.com
and another one... different angle/side...

and as for the rear diffuser, no, i'm not talking of the F1-style-huge-***-drive-on-the-top-of-a-tunnel-kinda-downforce sort, something small, and subtle... i haven't found a good link for that yet...

as for that ducktail spoiler, go to www.mazdausa.com and click on the Miata MX-5 at the top on the menu bar... it's then staring you right in the eyes...

Saf

Prefer a spoiler that a wing. But would like to have at least one.

Speedbuggy

I'm gonna get flamed...

Looking at the pics of the rear of the car, especially the yellow one right at the top of the page, I place my vote firmly with the idea of a small, stock-type wing along the lines of the one offered as an option on the Protege.

Yes, I know it might not be much functionally, but to me it will strongly improve the appearance. To me, the rear deck looks rather awkward, it's too short to be a real notchback w/ trunk but too long to be a fastback either. It's just... odd. I think the addition of a small sedan-style wing would offset that clumsiness and give a better profile.

Then again, I would also love if they'd make a full-on fastback model, giving it a rear-end look more like the late MX-3 (which I loved, BTW). I love the wedge-like, aggressive lines of a car like that. That's just my taste, and I certainly don't expect everyone to agree with me, but I have the feeling that a fastback model would sell.

For me, the looks of a car are important not to show off, but for the fact that -I- want to like the looks of a car I'm driving. Sure, I'll be content with an ugly-but-functional pure machine, but I'll be happier if I like the way it looks, as well.

BTW, off-topic I know but am I the only one who thinks the stock Protege with foglamps and wing looks better than the MP-3 or Mazdaspeed versions with the larger wing and front bodywork? I still say put a Renesis in one of those with the alloy wheels and the moonroof, and that's my car... *drool*

Yep, I'm way off on a tangent here. We now return you to your regularly scheduled RX-8 forum thread...

Hercules

I'd prefer a small lip spoiler like offered on BMWs and Audis, instead of any type of WING.

That actually does make a difference anyway, those wings are very inefficient.

bwayout

I'm back to the example Toadman found earlier in this thread.

I'd also wouldn't mind if Mazda offered an option for a lower profile wing too!

If this forum is an example of the majority of our tastes... it would certainly pay for Mazda or one of the many developers to give us a few choices:

Spoiler or tall wing or low wing and for Mazda Speed a more Rally styled wing ...

bwayout

It looks great on the rear of the Peugeot (Nice handing of a hatchback/wing treatment) ... but ... I'm not sure how it would de designed to blend in with the back of an RX-8 ...?

Hercules

That's horrific looking.

mjgc0

Why not get a flower vase too like that pretty one in the VW bug? Then you can put your pansies in there as well. Big plastic-crappo wings make cars look too cheese-ball like all those lame Japanese racing stickers I keep seeing stuck on the side of POS Integras here in Northern Cali. The wing-kit should come with a self-deploying barf bag too!

Speedbuggy

I don't know about others on this thread, but I'm NOT referring to some big, "racerboy" wannabe large wing. I'm not even talking about something near as large as the one shown in the pic of the blue RX-7. What I'm talking about is a small, low-profile wing of the type that Mazda offers as an accessory on the Protege.

Given that Mazda already offers the option on cars like the Protege, it's very likely that they'll make one available for the RX-8, as well. As they -are- dealer-installed accessories you order when you buy the car, you don't have to buy one if you don't like it. No one is forcing you to and it won't ruin -your- RX-8 if others do order them for their own cars.

BTW, I personally find a flat, unadorned rear deck lid, especially on a sporty car, to be boring, uninspired, and flat-out ugly. I think a spoiler or small wing completes the look of the rear end and adds to the profile and lines of the car. That's just me. Doesn't make me right and you wrong, it just means we have different tastes.

Personally, I'm a bit more concerned about the huge wheels...

zoom44

huge wheels? i think they are too small! they should be bigger!:D
hah!noone else was going to say that!

wakeech

Ya, speedbuggy, i'm with ya...

i like the RZ wing T-Man's got on his FD, but the 8 would look retarded with something like that on the back...

and btw, i was pointing toward the airdam on the Peugeot, not the wing: i think it's ugly too, but it sure works well...

wings on road cars are retarded, as they don't REALLY need them... underbody aero is more efficient, and produces more downforce anyways, and i think that a sick aero package like on my previous example would kick ***... maybe i'll put something together in photoshop, but then again, i'm kinda lazy... i'll see...

and mjgc0, not everything with a wing is "rice"...


and ya, T-Man, those wheels are HUGE!! the girlies like 'em that way, or just you?? heh, i'm just joshin' ya; your ride still turns my blood green...

mjgc0

I agree that a factory spoiler may look OK. A wing would ruin the clean lines of the RX-8. There is beauty in simple form = function so no tack-on plastic bits needed on this, already beautiful car.
I can't wait to see one on the road!

One example is the Boxster, no wing needed.

trekkerz-06

i have to agree with mjgc0 i don't believe that mazda designed the 8 without a wing for a reason. The car is hot enough as it is anything too muh more would be rather guady.

m477

That's not actually a Mazda 99-spec wing, it is a somewhat similar aftermarket one. The 99-spec is a good bit smaller and if you look closely, the shape is different too:




I wouldn't call the aftermarket one rice, but the real 99-spec one is certainly much more tasteful.

wakeech

you're sure that's the RZ package?? not that i think you'd make that mistake, but just checkin'...

regardless that it's just a small bit higher, and the shape's a bit different, i still like T-Mans get up: even though it's not the best solution, it's still a good one (downforce wise), and in my eyes, the design of the wing is quite beautiful (notice the slight curvature to maximize the higher pressure in the centre, on the top side of the wing, and those sexy endplates), so i don't care...

m477

You're correct, that's not the RZ package. (I never said it was...) The 2000 RZ only came in white and had mesh wheels.

It wasn't only the RZ which had the wing, the RS, R, and RB-S models also came with wings. The blue 1999 which I posted is an RS model.

I know my Series 8 FDs very well (I hope to own one someday).

zoom44

i dont know, i thought the T-man said his was stock?! he should know as i believe that is his car!

wakeech

no, he didn't say it was stock, he said that the wing was factory...

i still love it...

GRX8FUL

Thought about getting the spoiler that looks semi stock (custom fit) but is raised a little? Not to ricey but I think adds to the car a great deal. Thoughts?