rxeightr

If that is how I looked at a car, I would NOT be getting the RX-8.

The RX-8 is going to be an extension of me, and who I am. Now that's deep.

Is that not what any Sports Car is?

Hercules

About the passing power... it's what rotary engines are known for.

When you get higher and higher in the RPM range, the car will get more and more powerful. It tops out at max power being at 8500RPMs at which point you've got a lot of power to pass. This is also the reason why the 0-60 times come with a high-rpm launch.

However keep in mind as well that 90% of available torque is available to you at 3250RPMs so that 'get up and go' off the line won't be terribly quick.. but it won't be obscenely slow either.

dreamgetter1

[QUOTE]Originally posted by gord boyd
[B]As much fun as I expect the 8 to be, it's just a car. Forget the car
and get a real life.


I'm with you GordBoyd, I look at some of these posts about people constantly calling Mazda asking,screaming where the hell their car is. I can't help but laugh because, like its going to help them by freakin out about it. Just chill the damn cars will be here soon enough!
I'll just bid my time till my car makes it here, then I won't have a life anymore and my wife will divorce me. :D

BRx8

you're forgetting a few important points here...

1) this is a car forum...we talk about the positives and negatives of the car because, well, that's the point of the forum

2) this is an RX-8 forum...at this point in the game, the car is for enthusiasts as only the hardcore would really preorder a first generation, first year car with so many innovative features that is being done for the first time...hence, we will talk about the positives and negatives to the nth degree until there's nothing to talk about...at which point we'll find something else to talk about regarding the car

3) i agree that a car's main purpose is to transport people but that's also the least important when talking about sports cars...why get a Rolex when you can get a Casio since a watch is only for telling time? why get RL, DKNY, or Kenneth Cole when you can get Target, Wal-Mart, or K-Mart? a sports car is a special type of car whose respective owners wish to express themesleves

4) probably the most important point your missing - the thread itself is asking "What are the negative points on the RX-8?" poster asks a valid question, other posters answer with their opinions. if you wish not participate in the conversation, then just bypass it altogether. what was the point in commenting about how "normal people" act and such?

PS - oh, i found another point: many of us don't have our cars yet! so it's inherent that we would ask questions with the possibility that someone may have the answer...and again brings me to my first point, the whole reason we're here on a car forum board

zoom44

so we should not be upset about the dealer screwing up and not ordering the car when they were supposed to? we should not be upset that we couldn't get answers from our dealers so then tried mazda only to have them say "ask your dealer". if we get poor customer service we should just not do anything about it? maybe you want to do that but i sure as hell don't like being told "if you pre-order you'll get this that and the other benefit" only to find out it's all screwed up and they are seemingly unwilling or unable to do anything about it. it's because of people who stand up and say "that's not right" that things change so people do not have to go thru the same thing in the future. do a search on this forum on the mazda6 packaging. when that first came out people on this forum as well as attenza forums and others saw how terrible it was making you purchase 2 or 3 seperate "packages" when you only wanted 1 of them. we got together and sent our complaints to mazda and they did make changes to them. we did that because we did not want to see the same kind of ludicrous packaging for the 8 and i can tell you that we made an impact. sit back and take crap all you want. i for one will not and am glad that others feel the same way.

ibfubar2000

zoom44 has a good point. as does Gordboyd.
if, like me, you have been getting the emails and the book. then you should not be calling mazda and the dealer everyday looking to see if your car is here, you know it is not here because im sure someone will post the second it arrives ( i willl post as soon as i see the truck unload!) but if you have not gotten your emails or vin. then yes you should call and find out why. it seems like most of the time it seems to be the dealers fault more than mazda. besides after reading these threads it seems like nobody is going to get a different answer other than july delivery. mazda will just not commit to a june delivery (not saying it wont happen in june, just saying mazda will not promise a june delivery) so it does no good to call mazda daily looking for your car, at least not until you see that someone else in america has one.

dreamgetter1

I don't sit back and take crap as you put it Zoom, but when something like manufacturing a car,is as complex as I think it must be, and it is a first run of a new model there are bound to be a few screw ups. I guess the question is can you handle the screw up or are you gonna let it shake you up to the point that you think you can get something from someone by screamin at them?

I for one would make my point, get the answer, if it wasn't the one I was looking for I would decide to stay or say f__k it and leave. But that's just me and my qwan. You do whatever you want but don't mind me while I laugh my *** off.

zoom44

actually i am not even that upset about the screwups(although i was dissappointed) what really pisses me of is that noone seems to be willing or able to fix the pre-order problems. and while it seems people are you say screming about it, that is venting here which comes from the frustration of not being able to get the problem fixed sometimes after months of trying. yes the car will come but how many more times will i have to postpone my vacation before my car actually is here. i had already planned for june then moved it to july and now have to move it to august.

ibfubar2000

your problem sems to be a dealer problem not a mazda problem. its not mazda pre-order sytem that screwed you it was the dealer that didnt place your order on time. i have had no problems at all and it seems everyone who placed there order at this same dealer isnt having any problems. i dont think you should be blaming mazda you should be blaming the dealer (they are 2 different entities!)

dreamgetter1

I feel your frustration Zoom, if it was me I would have been vacationing because I know my car and her deposit would be there when I got back. I for one never let things I have no control over dictate or influence my life, but then again that's just me.

zoom44

ahh yes there are many problems from my dealer's side of things. but it is mazda's pre-order program. they are the ones who did not make sure all of the dealers were up to speed before it went online. it is mazda who did not have a system in place to fix the (as dreamgetter has rightly put it) problems when they inevitably arose with this new program. and if they did, it is mazda who did not communicate it with the dealers properly. why was it me who was the go between for mazda and my dealer for 2 months when either of them should have picked up the phone and had a way to fix the problems. it was not until may that mazda started telling people how to get their pre-orders fixed and then i only found out because someone posted it on this forum. and then i had to tell my dealer about it. why did mazda not send out a memo to the dealers with this info? How is it that the dealer did not know about the pre-order gifts until i told them in April when i asked them (again with the new info) to try to fix the order status.

yes my dealer has a large amount of fault here but MNAO or MazdaUSA has it's share also.

zoom44

i normally would not either Dreamgetter however the vacation plans include driving the car, of course.
i think i have hijacked this thread enough lets get back on track.
i don't much like the fuel economy numbers.

ibfubar2000

yes, in your case they both seem to have problems. and it sounds like you got screwed big time. well better you than me. :D :D :D

zoom44

very good point ibfubar2000. that goes well with elara's the other day about not slamming rx8orders too much. at one time or another they have been very helpful to many of us and they have tried to help whenever they could, but don't know or have access to all of the answers and are in tough situation. lets give them a breather folks.

shaddapp!!!:p

sorry i went of topic again:o :D

Hercules

Mazda should hire me to run things

dreamgetter1

I think Zoom needs to be Director of Customer Relations!! As well as a few more important posts at MNAO, then I feel there would be no lack of communication between Builder and seller and customer!!:D

About the vacation Zoom it's that damn Murphy's Law thing?!:D

The only negative thing I see about the 8 is that I'm not driving the car home yet!

ibfubar2000

ROFL!!! LOL!!

zoom44

I'd take that job except i would have to wait until next year to get a discount on my RX-8!

I hear ya!