Whats your Fastest Corner?
who had dsc on?
09-22-2007, 09:36 PM
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You make a good point you got to know your limits with the car seeing that im use to driving front wheel drive and now the whole tailfishing and drifting is a new concept. never the less no matter how long you have had your car you will still push it to the limit, showing off or just seeing if you can do it for yourself. im always doing the stupid **** alone and when no one's around sometimes you just cant help it
09-22-2007, 11:59 PM
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Sad story for sure, its never good when people get hurt or killed... But inexperience comes into play with these cases most of the time.
The driver had 2 previous accidents... With anyone under 21 they should take your driver privileges away with infractions for 3 months at a time and have you take a road safety course.
I myself have barely pushed my rx8 to any type of limit. And I've only had it about a month... I'm currently looking for a driving/racing course where I can take the car on a track and find its limits, learn how it reacts and recovers in wet/dry conditions etc.
The driver had 2 previous accidents... With anyone under 21 they should take your driver privileges away with infractions for 3 months at a time and have you take a road safety course.
I myself have barely pushed my rx8 to any type of limit. And I've only had it about a month... I'm currently looking for a driving/racing course where I can take the car on a track and find its limits, learn how it reacts and recovers in wet/dry conditions etc.
09-23-2007, 01:04 AM
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Over the years this car gets more and more dangerous for people to own and I'm sure there's a shitload of you who already know this. You've accepted the lack of straight line performance found in similarly classed sports/sporty cars (unless you solved that with $$$$$$ and went the F/I route), and have learned to get your kicks from the car's handling abilities instead. You may have given up wasting your rubber from stoplight to stoplight and redlining through every gear on the highway like all the other morons on the road, but that doesn't conceal the fact that you've gotten more and more conditioned into plowing through turns, tight corners, winding roads, onramps...and even intersections...at faster speeds than you ever dared in the past. The habit of relying on DSC to save your asses has left you in so many close calls where you had your fingers, toes, and ********* crossed that you've lost count. Yet you keep pushing it to the limit since you're still here in one piece posting on this thread.
Once I started going to the track I found myself driving less aggressive on the road. I just wait for the track day
09-23-2007, 09:26 AM
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When I was racing the 7, I was hitting 90 coming out of the carousel. I was originally freaked by "The Kink". I would left foot brake and later lift before entering the corner. Then I found I could go flat out through there. Just think about the speed your going, flat out from the exit of corner 8 to the braking point to corner 12. The speedo didn't read correctly in the race car, but I was well over 110 mph. One time the rear end stepped out unexpectedly and that was exciting.
09-23-2007, 03:52 PM
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Because some people believe that human reaction times can outperform a computer that is constantly monitoring wheel slippage. 
Traction control also makes it a hell of a lot harder to do stupid racing tricks like drifting.
Finally, If you total your car, and your traction control is off when you do itm your insurance company won't pay you a dime.
So clearly its a terrible thing.
Traction control also makes it a hell of a lot harder to do stupid racing tricks like drifting.
Finally, If you total your car, and your traction control is off when you do itm your insurance company won't pay you a dime.
So clearly its a terrible thing.
09-23-2007, 09:41 PM
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yeah, you can't make a controlled angle avoidance maneuver with the dsc off. there's no way you can make one wheel spin at a different speed. dsc is the best safety feature to hit the market since air bags. in standard driving, you're stupid to turn it off. don't turn it off unless you're stuck, drifting or peeling out.
09-23-2007, 10:40 PM
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I would think that you should be able to go faster than that.
When I was racing the 7, I was hitting 90 coming out of the carousel. I was originally freaked by "The Kink". I would left foot brake and later lift before entering the corner. Then I found I could go flat out through there. Just think about the speed your going, flat out from the exit of corner 8 to the braking point to corner 12. The speedo didn't read correctly in the race car, but I was well over 110 mph. One time the rear end stepped out unexpectedly and that was exciting.
When I was racing the 7, I was hitting 90 coming out of the carousel. I was originally freaked by "The Kink". I would left foot brake and later lift before entering the corner. Then I found I could go flat out through there. Just think about the speed your going, flat out from the exit of corner 8 to the braking point to corner 12. The speedo didn't read correctly in the race car, but I was well over 110 mph. One time the rear end stepped out unexpectedly and that was exciting.
09-23-2007, 11:16 PM
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its hard for me to imagine myself "finding my car's limits" on the street.
09-24-2007, 07:14 AM
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Over the years this car gets more and more dangerous for people to own and I'm sure there's a shitload of you who already know this. You've accepted the lack of straight line performance found in similarly classed sports/sporty cars (unless you solved that with $$$$$$ and went the F/I route), and have learned to get your kicks from the car's handling abilities instead. You may have given up wasting your rubber from stoplight to stoplight and redlining through every gear on the highway like all the other morons on the road, but that doesn't conceal the fact that you've gotten more and more conditioned into plowing through turns, tight corners, winding roads, onramps...and even intersections...at faster speeds than you ever dared in the past. The habit of relying on DSC to save your asses has left you in so many close calls where you had your fingers, toes, and ********* crossed that you've lost count. Yet you keep pushing it to the limit since you're still here in one piece posting on this thread.
For every car I have ever owned, handling took precedence over power. Always. I "learned to get my kicks from a car's handling abilities" a few decades ago.
For those who liked straight line performance, there was plenty of iron to choose from. It was never my choice. Not then- not now. And for the last time- the car is not "slow." For every adolescent who thinks lopping a tenth of a second off a 0-60 time makes every slower car a piece of crap, you don't know what you're missing.
09-24-2007, 09:54 AM
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I have yet to come even close to the 'limits' of this cars handling on the street. Youd have to be a seriously bad driver/seriously reckless driver to get this car sideway on public roads. Only time Ive ever lost grip was going thru a patch of gravel at the apex of an off-ramp... I had the DSC off, and with a little contersteering was fine. I was nowhere near the traction limit of the car, but adverse road conditions can bring that threshold wayyyy down.
My point is this, the limits of this car usually far exceed that of the person driving it (I said usually, auto-x junkies). It is when inexperienced drivers try to push past their own abilities that accidents happen. Lucky, as seen in previous posts, this car is forgiving enough to save many people from such mistakes... but as I said, the occasional 'adverse situation' can catch even the best driver off gaurd.
As JERKY said, people become bolder and bolder driving the car, and begin driving beyond their abilities simply because the CAR can handle it. All it takes is one time with the DSC off, a little traction break in the rear, and if you dont know how to handle it youre screwed. In those cases, the DSC is usually a better driver than the person behind the wheel.
My point is this, the limits of this car usually far exceed that of the person driving it (I said usually, auto-x junkies). It is when inexperienced drivers try to push past their own abilities that accidents happen. Lucky, as seen in previous posts, this car is forgiving enough to save many people from such mistakes... but as I said, the occasional 'adverse situation' can catch even the best driver off gaurd.
As JERKY said, people become bolder and bolder driving the car, and begin driving beyond their abilities simply because the CAR can handle it. All it takes is one time with the DSC off, a little traction break in the rear, and if you dont know how to handle it youre screwed. In those cases, the DSC is usually a better driver than the person behind the wheel.
09-24-2007, 10:44 AM
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yeah, you can't make a controlled angle avoidance maneuver with the dsc off. there's no way you can make one wheel spin at a different speed. dsc is the best safety feature to hit the market since air bags. in standard driving, you're stupid to turn it off. don't turn it off unless you're stuck, drifting or peeling out.
It shuts down the car.
Last thing you want in accident avoidence is the engine to stall.
Try taking it for Auto X someday. Keep the DSC on see what happens.
And Yes you are correct. You need to keep it on when driving on the streets.
09-24-2007, 12:32 PM
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I don't go that fast, but i did notice that i can do a turn thats about 80 degrees at 30 mph. without the tires skidding. Im sure most of you know that already though.
09-24-2007, 12:35 PM
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Word.
I've been running the 8 more and more on an autocross course. course dependant wether I take both stages off. fast flowing courses I do 1 stage off because at high speeds the DSC helps me be smooth. tight courses both stages off because you got to get the car to rotate and accelerate out of tighter corners.
Going 10/10ths on the street in ANY car is totally stupid.
I've been running the 8 more and more on an autocross course. course dependant wether I take both stages off. fast flowing courses I do 1 stage off because at high speeds the DSC helps me be smooth. tight courses both stages off because you got to get the car to rotate and accelerate out of tighter corners.
Going 10/10ths on the street in ANY car is totally stupid.
09-24-2007, 03:35 PM
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09-24-2007, 04:25 PM
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On the route from Houston to Austin there's this 270 degree highway interchange that was clearly build LONG after the surrounding roads were firmly in place. It's banked VERY sharply, and has a very tight diameter.
Well, I got to take it for the first time with my MS suspension when there wasn't another car in sight for miles. Now, I'm far from the best driver in the world, but mostly because I lack the experience, not the know-how. Let me just say that I got damn lucky and nailed this turn about as perfect as anyone ever could. The car gripped exactly how I wanted it to, I hit the apex perfectly, and the G's were so high that breathing was a near-conscious effort. I don't know how fast I was going because I never looked down (as said earlier - the road ahead should be your only concern at a time like that), but if I had to guess, I had to have been pushing 65-75mph the whole time.
My passenger was kinda daydreaming when I went into the turn, so she wasn't braced or prepared in any sense of the word...
...she ended up getting tunnel vision and nearly blacked out from the sudden lateral and vertical G's. She said all she remembered was the car suddenly jerking, which made her look up (she was going through my CDs or something), she had the wind pushed out of her and couldn't inhale, but before she could force herself to take a breath she started seeing spots, and her body quickly went numb on her as her eyes started smearing everything together and fading to black.
I won't lie - towards the end of the turn I was starting to get a little tingle in the fingers and see some flashing yellow spots in my periphrial. While certainly not the highest speed turn in the state, it's got to be one of the most intense! Good luck finding a point in time when there isn't traffic on it, though - I must have driven to Austin and back 17 or more times by now, and this was only the 2nd time I've seen it with no cars crawling around it at 25mph.
Well, I got to take it for the first time with my MS suspension when there wasn't another car in sight for miles. Now, I'm far from the best driver in the world, but mostly because I lack the experience, not the know-how. Let me just say that I got damn lucky and nailed this turn about as perfect as anyone ever could. The car gripped exactly how I wanted it to, I hit the apex perfectly, and the G's were so high that breathing was a near-conscious effort. I don't know how fast I was going because I never looked down (as said earlier - the road ahead should be your only concern at a time like that), but if I had to guess, I had to have been pushing 65-75mph the whole time.
My passenger was kinda daydreaming when I went into the turn, so she wasn't braced or prepared in any sense of the word...
...she ended up getting tunnel vision and nearly blacked out from the sudden lateral and vertical G's. She said all she remembered was the car suddenly jerking, which made her look up (she was going through my CDs or something), she had the wind pushed out of her and couldn't inhale, but before she could force herself to take a breath she started seeing spots, and her body quickly went numb on her as her eyes started smearing everything together and fading to black.
I won't lie - towards the end of the turn I was starting to get a little tingle in the fingers and see some flashing yellow spots in my periphrial. While certainly not the highest speed turn in the state, it's got to be one of the most intense! Good luck finding a point in time when there isn't traffic on it, though - I must have driven to Austin and back 17 or more times by now, and this was only the 2nd time I've seen it with no cars crawling around it at 25mph.
09-24-2007, 04:29 PM
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Fastest corner was in Orange, CA.
The ramp from the 22E to the 57N.
I hit MkII on that ramp....
JK!
I actually took it at approximate average of 95mph.
I entered it at 90, didn't look at the speedometer going through the whole turn but I didn't let off of the accelerator nor hit the brakes. I exited at 100.
So... yeah... I'll NEVER do that again... Ever!
The ramp from the 22E to the 57N.
I hit MkII on that ramp....
JK!
I actually took it at approximate average of 95mph.
I entered it at 90, didn't look at the speedometer going through the whole turn but I didn't let off of the accelerator nor hit the brakes. I exited at 100.
So... yeah... I'll NEVER do that again... Ever!
09-24-2007, 04:40 PM
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09-24-2007, 05:28 PM
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My passenger was kinda daydreaming when I went into the turn, so she wasn't braced or prepared in any sense of the word...
...she ended up getting tunnel vision and nearly blacked out from the sudden lateral and vertical G's. She said all she remembered was the car suddenly jerking, which made her look up (she was going through my CDs or something), she had the wind pushed out of her and couldn't inhale, but before she could force herself to take a breath she started seeing spots, and her body quickly went numb on her as her eyes started smearing everything together and fading to black..
...she ended up getting tunnel vision and nearly blacked out from the sudden lateral and vertical G's. She said all she remembered was the car suddenly jerking, which made her look up (she was going through my CDs or something), she had the wind pushed out of her and couldn't inhale, but before she could force herself to take a breath she started seeing spots, and her body quickly went numb on her as her eyes started smearing everything together and fading to black..