Why you don't let your parents buy your car
12-03-2008, 11:45 AM
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I have driven RWD since I was 16. Tho the Jeeps had 4x4 as an option i always used rwd to save gas unless going up a hill. The 8 has guided me safely through 2 winters now and is ready for a 3rd. I have always run Blizzaks until this year I am trying out Dunlop Winter Sport M3's. I live in NH and ski all the time (I have a yakima ski rack for the 8) and have had not a single issue even in blizzards with getting around. You just have to give yourself time and be aware not talking on the phone or messing with the radio. Once your comfortable there is a lot of fun that can be had too while out. I would say you have nothing to worry about, esp since my friend with his fwd has more issues climbing the hill to my house in bad weather then my 8 has and my friend with a WRX is impressed that with DSC I don't even get much wheel spin when taking off as if it was just raining out.
I have pix with the 8 in the snow with the blizzaks in VT just cruisin around I can send if you want.
I have pix with the 8 in the snow with the blizzaks in VT just cruisin around I can send if you want.
12-03-2008, 12:27 PM
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Maybe take her to the mall in the snow with your 8? feeling the car ride in the snow might ease her mind.
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12-03-2008, 12:37 PM
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Work with your dad to get the title in your name. If your name is on the title, there is legally nothing your mom can do to take it away the next time she gets scared for you.
Maybe take her to the mall in the snow with your 8? feeling the car ride in the snow might ease her mind.
Alfy. Epic. Can you build me one?
Maybe take her to the mall in the snow with your 8? feeling the car ride in the snow might ease her mind.
Alfy. Epic. Can you build me one?
But yes I will be taking her for a ride in the 8 this weekend. I'm fine.
12-03-2008, 12:45 PM
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You have to remember that these are my parents too... they've helped me out with everything and I wouldn't be where I am without them. I have to have some respect and at least listen to what they have to say. I know if I come to them with my concerns in a civilized manner they will have respect for what I have to say too. I'm not gonna start some huge family splitting feud over this
But yes I will be taking her for a ride in the 8 this weekend. I'm fine.
But yes I will be taking her for a ride in the 8 this weekend. I'm fine.
I think this ride over the weekend will help anyways, and it shows you respect your mothers opinion.
Im also young and my dad is on my loan with me so I'm right there with you.
12-03-2008, 03:38 PM
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Getting the title in your name, or stepping up to get an auto loan to pay off the car need not set off a family feud.
You can tell your parents respectfully that you picked a car that you wanted, and that you were under the assumption that they would actually let you possess it. If they aren't willing to let you have the thing they already said they would help you obtain, then you will obtain it without them.
There is absolutely nothing unreasonable about it. You're an adult. You can do this, and I assure you that your parents would still love and respect you. You might startle them by suddenly manning up in this way, but if this is the car you really want, then do what it takes to make it yours.
If I had a kid in the same situation as you, and he said to me "Look, I'm tired of changing cars every 6 months because you get scared. I'm a good driver, I've never had a serious accident, This is the car I want, and I'm going to keep it. If you don't want to support me in this, I respect that, but it's not going to stop me. I'll get a loan and pay off my obligation to you." I'd be so damn proud of him, then I'd go with him to get the loan and make sure he doesn't get screwed on it.
You can tell your parents respectfully that you picked a car that you wanted, and that you were under the assumption that they would actually let you possess it. If they aren't willing to let you have the thing they already said they would help you obtain, then you will obtain it without them.
There is absolutely nothing unreasonable about it. You're an adult. You can do this, and I assure you that your parents would still love and respect you. You might startle them by suddenly manning up in this way, but if this is the car you really want, then do what it takes to make it yours.
If I had a kid in the same situation as you, and he said to me "Look, I'm tired of changing cars every 6 months because you get scared. I'm a good driver, I've never had a serious accident, This is the car I want, and I'm going to keep it. If you don't want to support me in this, I respect that, but it's not going to stop me. I'll get a loan and pay off my obligation to you." I'd be so damn proud of him, then I'd go with him to get the loan and make sure he doesn't get screwed on it.
12-03-2008, 03:52 PM
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+1 geesh if you don't stop your parents from running your life now it will never end... next they will pick your GF, your clothes, Hairstyle, etc... tell them in a nice tone that your have been a legal adult for 2 years now and have already "left the nest" Let me learn on my own!!!! Even if your Dad is the "Finance CO" for your car he cannot legally take it from you as long as you are current with payments to him. PLEASE tell me you make the car payments and not your parents. If they do they own your ***...
12-03-2008, 04:07 PM
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Getting the title in your name, or stepping up to get an auto loan to pay off the car need not set off a family feud.
You can tell your parents respectfully that you picked a car that you wanted, and that you were under the assumption that they would actually let you possess it. If they aren't willing to let you have the thing they already said they would help you obtain, then you will obtain it without them.
There is absolutely nothing unreasonable about it. You're an adult. You can do this, and I assure you that your parents would still love and respect you. You might startle them by suddenly manning up in this way, but if this is the car you really want, then do what it takes to make it yours.
If I had a kid in the same situation as you, and he said to me "Look, I'm tired of changing cars every 6 months because you get scared. I'm a good driver, I've never had a serious accident, This is the car I want, and I'm going to keep it. If you don't want to support me in this, I respect that, but it's not going to stop me. I'll get a loan and pay off my obligation to you." I'd be so damn proud of him, then I'd go with him to get the loan and make sure he doesn't get screwed on it.
You can tell your parents respectfully that you picked a car that you wanted, and that you were under the assumption that they would actually let you possess it. If they aren't willing to let you have the thing they already said they would help you obtain, then you will obtain it without them.
There is absolutely nothing unreasonable about it. You're an adult. You can do this, and I assure you that your parents would still love and respect you. You might startle them by suddenly manning up in this way, but if this is the car you really want, then do what it takes to make it yours.
If I had a kid in the same situation as you, and he said to me "Look, I'm tired of changing cars every 6 months because you get scared. I'm a good driver, I've never had a serious accident, This is the car I want, and I'm going to keep it. If you don't want to support me in this, I respect that, but it's not going to stop me. I'll get a loan and pay off my obligation to you." I'd be so damn proud of him, then I'd go with him to get the loan and make sure he doesn't get screwed on it.
Even if your Dad is the "Finance CO" for your car he cannot legally take it from you as long as you are current with payments to him. PLEASE tell me you make the car payments and not your parents. If they do they own your ***...
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12-03-2008, 04:43 PM
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move father away to somewhere sunny with no snow in the winter. then your mom wont worry and you wont have to drive in the snow and keep a 2nd set of tires around
move father away to somewhere sunny with no snow in the winter. then your mom wont worry and you wont have to drive in the snow and keep a 2nd set of tires around
12-03-2008, 04:46 PM
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I've just given a quick look through the responses, and I don't think I've seen this.
Why don't you offer to take a 'driving lesson' with a professional instructor - he/she can evaluate your skills, offer you advise, and most importantly confirm what others have been telling you that if driven reasonably and suitably equipped, the RX-8 can be a safe car to drive in the winter.
I think that if you don't do this - both the initiative to find a solution - and the gumption to be firm - then you will have this problem with whatever car you get.
Sorry if this offends - it's both car useful and advice useful, i think.
Cheers.
I've just given a quick look through the responses, and I don't think I've seen this.
Why don't you offer to take a 'driving lesson' with a professional instructor - he/she can evaluate your skills, offer you advise, and most importantly confirm what others have been telling you that if driven reasonably and suitably equipped, the RX-8 can be a safe car to drive in the winter.
I think that if you don't do this - both the initiative to find a solution - and the gumption to be firm - then you will have this problem with whatever car you get.
Sorry if this offends - it's both car useful and advice useful, i think.
Cheers.
12-03-2008, 04:55 PM
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Driving lesson with a professional instructor? I don't know where I would do this except with one of the deadbeat instructors from the nebraska safety council or with an autocross instructor. I've already gone around with an autox instructor a couple times but that was on dry pavement.
I think a quick drive with my mom will be sufficient. That or handcuffing myself to my car if they try to sell it
I think a quick drive with my mom will be sufficient. That or handcuffing myself to my car if they try to sell it
12-03-2008, 07:56 PM
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I would recommend against adding weight to the rear. That is a tactic that started with RWD cars that had/have massive engines over the front axle and no weight in the rear. Adding weight to these cars was an attempt to get more pressure on the rear tires, but still would not actually 'balance' the car, so it was still front heavy.
The 8 is 50/50 already, so the added weight doesn't do much but throw off the balance and make your 8 heavier...which means it takes longer to stop in the snow.
The best attribute to have when braking in the snow is a light car. Don't minimize that advantage. The only time extra weight on the drive wheels is beneficial is when you have a minimal contact patch (fluffy powder, deep snow, tire rubber too stiff, etc...), and the extra weight helps to push the contact patch against the surface.
Those big SUVs of your mom's may have given her tons of confidence, but it is a confidence of not getting stuck only... all that extra weight is useless for anything else, and makes it worse for most of them.
The 8 is 50/50 already, so the added weight doesn't do much but throw off the balance and make your 8 heavier...which means it takes longer to stop in the snow.
The best attribute to have when braking in the snow is a light car. Don't minimize that advantage. The only time extra weight on the drive wheels is beneficial is when you have a minimal contact patch (fluffy powder, deep snow, tire rubber too stiff, etc...), and the extra weight helps to push the contact patch against the surface.
Those big SUVs of your mom's may have given her tons of confidence, but it is a confidence of not getting stuck only... all that extra weight is useless for anything else, and makes it worse for most of them.
12-03-2008, 09:29 PM
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yea my dad was worried about that too but i agreed that if it snowed really bad i'd drive my dads range rover. i was also worried that my dad would take control cause he paid for the whole thing cause it was a birthday gift for me but luckily he didn't.
so hope everythin works out for u!
so hope everythin works out for u!
12-04-2008, 10:52 AM
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2,000 more pounds is 2k more pounds that you need to keep under control. im going to go ahead and say that a miata is easier to control in the snow than an awd escalade.
12-07-2008, 08:42 AM
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Most of the time when you're driving in the winter, the roads have been cleared anyways. Blizzaks do make a difference, but if you don't think your mother will approve anyways, then don't waste the money on them. I'm kind of having the same problem with my dad, what i'm planing on doing is trying to find a winter beater. That way the salt and sand won't mess up the car. But I have to say, if she didn't accept the volvo S40 or the audi A6 as safe enough then I doubt she'll say the 8 is safe enough, even with the blizzaks.
