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Originally Posted by Llathos
Ok.
I have stock tires (Bridgestones) and am going to need to pick up some snow tires. What tires do you guys recommend that fit a stock setup with stock rims with no extra manipulation?
I want simple, effective, and cheap. I don't intend to put the screws to my snow tires by testing exit ramp speeds in 2 inches of powder.
I have stock tires (Bridgestones) and am going to need to pick up some snow tires. What tires do you guys recommend that fit a stock setup with stock rims with no extra manipulation?
I want simple, effective, and cheap. I don't intend to put the screws to my snow tires by testing exit ramp speeds in 2 inches of powder.
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Hey guys..what about like time to warm up the car??....Problems involving Flooding....???
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this defines the drivers from the non-drivers. i've driven many a rear wheel drive cars and have never used winter tires and have been just fine with no crashes. i got a 6 speed to have fun and also to be able to drive on crappy road conditions, including ice and snow. to mother nature, i say bring it on!
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Originally Posted by SimplexEffect
I am going without winter tires all winter... I simply dont feel like spending $1,000 for new tires.
Also because i live in East Texas. So it doesnt get to cold or snow much here.
Also because i live in East Texas. So it doesnt get to cold or snow much here.
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Originally Posted by Gord96BRG
Right. No offense, but you obviously have absolutely NO clue as to what you are talking about. You obviously have NO understanding of the characteristics of performance summer tires (not all-seasons) in winter conditions, or what REAL winter tires are like. Good luck to you - please be sure to post in this thread when you have actually driven your RX-8 on OEM tires on snow/ice. We want all the details - and I promise to be first in line to say "I told you so" when you tell us how you got stuck, or if you did manage to get moving, how you nailed a curb the first time you tried to turn or stop. :p Unless you are a God to whom the laws of physics don't apply... somehow, though, I doubt it. Note that just because you don't understand the laws of physics doesn't mean that they don't exist.
(God forbid that you injure a passenger or other innocent bystander when your ignorance and arrogance gets you into a wreck.)
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(God forbid that you injure a passenger or other innocent bystander when your ignorance and arrogance gets you into a wreck.)
Regards,
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Hey there
I have the Michelin Pilot Alpin's P2 on my car, anticipating snow soon in Toronto.
Just wondering, with good snow tires on, how is traction/driving in snow/ice?
Will there still be problems around corners or up hills?
I had Arctic Alpines on my last car (Grand AM) and they made a huge difference.
Thanks
I have the Michelin Pilot Alpin's P2 on my car, anticipating snow soon in Toronto.
Just wondering, with good snow tires on, how is traction/driving in snow/ice?
Will there still be problems around corners or up hills?
I had Arctic Alpines on my last car (Grand AM) and they made a huge difference.
Thanks
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As a former New Jerseyan, tires make a hell of a difference. Now post your Potenzas in the for sale section, so us Southern people can grab em and you can use the money to buy all seasons.
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Originally Posted by yamajj
we get snow, just not as much as you up north.
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Originally Posted by Gord96BRG
Right. No offense, but you obviously have absolutely NO clue as to what you are talking about. You obviously have NO understanding of the characteristics of performance summer tires (not all-seasons) in winter conditions, or what REAL winter tires are like. Good luck to you - please be sure to post in this thread when you have actually driven your RX-8 on OEM tires on snow/ice. We want all the details - and I promise to be first in line to say "I told you so" when you tell us how you got stuck, or if you did manage to get moving, how you nailed a curb the first time you tried to turn or stop. :p Unless you are a God to whom the laws of physics don't apply... somehow, though, I doubt it. Note that just because you don't understand the laws of physics doesn't mean that they don't exist.
(God forbid that you injure a passenger or other innocent bystander when your ignorance and arrogance gets you into a wreck.)
Regards,
Gordon
(God forbid that you injure a passenger or other innocent bystander when your ignorance and arrogance gets you into a wreck.)
Regards,
Gordon
remember, only a zamboni drives well on ice and it still slides.
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anyone have any experience of the stock Dunlops in the snow?
I had a miata with Bridgestones last year, and would always leave it at home when it snowed (wife has an Audi...). PLanning to do the same with the 8, but I'm curious whether anyone had experience of the Dunlops.
I had a miata with Bridgestones last year, and would always leave it at home when it snowed (wife has an Audi...). PLanning to do the same with the 8, but I'm curious whether anyone had experience of the Dunlops.
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Originally Posted by yamajj
no offense taken, as i have driven several rear wheel drive cars on snow/ice. i'm not being arrogant or ignorant, i've just had the experience needed to understand how to drive in certain conditions. (i'm 38 yrs old) you wouldn't think a miata would be a good car to drive on these conditions either, but i never had problems with it. i feel better when the crazy people stay off the roads. i also compensate my speed which is the biggest part of driving on snow/ice.
remember, only a zamboni drives well on ice and it still slides.
yamajj
remember, only a zamboni drives well on ice and it still slides.
yamajj
I too come from a history of rear wheel drive cars and have never had a trouble with driving in the snow. But i was in for a rude awakening when I tried last winter with a dusting of snow...it's not pretty. You could be Mario Andretti and not be able to drive this car with the stock rubber in snow. Period.
Sorry.
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ok..so pretty much decided..since i don't have the money right now to get Winter Tires....My baby (Rosey) is gonna be tucked under the blanket for the winter season....Here comes out my Sleeper Car (LOL).....My 99' Maxima SE.....Watch out people!!!!
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The Eagle GW3s I ordered weren't going to be in until the middle of December so I bought the Dunlop M3s instead and I have to say that so far I am pretty impressed. Should have some snow to drive on in the next few days so I'll get to test them out there too...
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I love my RX8... but the best suggestion for using it in the winter environment is to put it into a nice warm garage whenever there is ice or snow on the roads! Then buy yourself a $1500 rat car like an old 88 integra.
Maybe the winter tires would help, but all that damn salt is just horrible for the thing! Lucky I am not stationed down in NC and wont have that problem this winter!
I tried driving mine a few times up in PA last year and it was quite an experience! When you start moving, you have to turn the computer off so the tires can spin on acceleration. Then you have to remember to turn the computer back on so that it doesnt become a wandering jew at around 25 to 35mph. It also likes to fish tail on hill that have slight downhills. Best part about the fish tail is that even thought rear end doesnt come all the way around, it does it when you least expect it! Its quite the white knuckled driving experience at under 40mph!
Maybe the winter tires would help, but all that damn salt is just horrible for the thing! Lucky I am not stationed down in NC and wont have that problem this winter!
I tried driving mine a few times up in PA last year and it was quite an experience! When you start moving, you have to turn the computer off so the tires can spin on acceleration. Then you have to remember to turn the computer back on so that it doesnt become a wandering jew at around 25 to 35mph. It also likes to fish tail on hill that have slight downhills. Best part about the fish tail is that even thought rear end doesnt come all the way around, it does it when you least expect it! Its quite the white knuckled driving experience at under 40mph!
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Originally posted by yamajj
this defines the drivers from the non-drivers.
this defines the drivers from the non-drivers.
You're 38? Very impressive. I'm 50. I've been driving all kinds of cars in winter conditions in Illinois, Michigan and New England since you were in training pants. Two first gen RX-7's with stock tires. Any number of overpowered RWD V-8's with stock tires. FWD econoboxes with stock tires. Even Jeeps with Blizzaks (now that's a combo!)
Every one of those other vehicle/tire combos was manageable in the snow, some better than others of course. The RX-8 on stock tires is not. Not even a little. Please listen to what everyone with relevant experience is saying:
THE STOCK TIRES ON THE RX-8 ARE UNDRIVEABLE IN WINTER CONDITIONS. PERIOD. END OF STORY.
Last week we had a surprise dusting of snow while I was at work. Fortunately it was too warm to stick to the roads except in a few spots. On the way home I approached a familiar stop sign at 10mph. There's a slight (not steep) downslope to the intersection. I slid straight through that intersection. Even at 5mph the ABS was still pumping its little heart out trying to find SOMETHING to stop the car with. No dice. When I pulled into my slightly downhill driveway - now at 5mph - I just about sidewindered into the garage. It took four tries to turn the car around, it kept going sideways.
This was on less than 1/4" of warm, wet snow. No other vehicle I've ever driven would have even noticed such a tiny amount. But if there'd been an inch more I'd have been completely immobilized.
If you attempt to drive your car in the way you're suggesting you'll smash into something. For your sake, I hope no one gets hurt.
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Originally Posted by timisw
I love my RX8... but the best suggestion for using it in the winter environment is to put it into a nice warm garage whenever there is ice or snow on the roads! Then buy yourself a $1500 rat car like an old 88 integra.
Maybe the winter tires would help, but all that damn salt is just horrible for the thing! Lucky I am not stationed down in NC and wont have that problem this winter!
I tried driving mine a few times up in PA last year and it was quite an experience! When you start moving, you have to turn the computer off so the tires can spin on acceleration. Then you have to remember to turn the computer back on so that it doesnt become a wandering jew at around 25 to 35mph. It also likes to fish tail on hill that have slight downhills. Best part about the fish tail is that even thought rear end doesnt come all the way around, it does it when you least expect it! Its quite the white knuckled driving experience at under 40mph!
Maybe the winter tires would help, but all that damn salt is just horrible for the thing! Lucky I am not stationed down in NC and wont have that problem this winter!
I tried driving mine a few times up in PA last year and it was quite an experience! When you start moving, you have to turn the computer off so the tires can spin on acceleration. Then you have to remember to turn the computer back on so that it doesnt become a wandering jew at around 25 to 35mph. It also likes to fish tail on hill that have slight downhills. Best part about the fish tail is that even thought rear end doesnt come all the way around, it does it when you least expect it! Its quite the white knuckled driving experience at under 40mph!
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I drove last year in Philadelphia on stock tires. Yes I survived, but just almost. They are driveable, everyone saying they are not are incorrect. Of course the probability of losing control is 90%.
For me its not worth the headache, I went out and purchased some M3's - however for some it will be 'live and learn' and not what they read here.
Good luck
Wayne
For me its not worth the headache, I went out and purchased some M3's - however for some it will be 'live and learn' and not what they read here.
Good luck
Wayne