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Old 01-11-2006 | 12:25 PM
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Worse MPG for All - Now everyone can be miserable...

New EPA testing

The EPA has finally admitted that the testing methods are wrong. Numerous reports on the news today about the EPA revising their test to reflect real-world mileage.

56mpg Prius 'estimates' worked out to about 36 in real life.

We know about our beloved RX8 test results. I get 13mpg city, NOT the 18mpg on the sticker.

Now everyone will realize that they get crappy mileage, and I won't feel so bad anymore.

Old 01-11-2006 | 12:31 PM
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You're right...
My C5 gets better city mileage, but the 8 gets the most Fun-Per-Gallon!
Old 01-11-2006 | 12:33 PM
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my worst fuel economy was 16.7, and my best was 23.4, and i average 18.47 (i have a spread sheet set up to track and analyze it...habit i picked up from my dad). so, my real world experiences have been pretty close to the original epa predictions
Old 01-11-2006 | 12:50 PM
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This thread is not for mileage bitching - I've done enough of that.

This is just vindication that the EPA are a bunch of liars and it's all a conspiracy by the government to make us think that we are getting good milage, all the while we have to spend more to line the pockets of the fat-cat oil executives, who spend it all on private jets to the cayman islands, where they hide thier profits in suitcases full of money in private banks, and then rent big luxury boats to go fishing for big game fish, and then go to town where they pick up strippers and pounds of blow, and then take helicopters to thier ski chalet in Austria, where they do the blow and eat endangered species for dinner, served by scantily-clad female french chefs, who moonlight as strippers, and then are entertained by Elvis while they laugh at us poor Americans getting 5mpg in our Ford Escorts....

Damn oil companies.
Old 01-11-2006 | 12:53 PM
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Wow, mega-rant!

You can sum up that last post simply by reading straight down from 'cayman islands' on my screen:

... cayman islands ... pick up strippers ... scantily clad female chefs ...

Old 01-11-2006 | 12:58 PM
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and eat endangered species for dinner.
I thought they ate extinct species for dinner. They have the endangered species for breakfast.
Old 01-11-2006 | 01:18 PM
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I thought they ate extinct species for dinner.
how do you do that?
Old 01-11-2006 | 01:19 PM
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I'm just mad that the wife won't use the stripper pole I installed.
Old 01-11-2006 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nranly
I thought they ate extinct species for dinner. They have the endangered species for breakfast.
Originally Posted by ECHO1
how do you do that?
I guess they have a stash of dodo birds in that safe in the Cayman Islands.
Next to where Elvis lives.

Old 01-11-2006 | 01:22 PM
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I've got the worst so far @ 11 in town and 15 on the highway...
My MPG's stay the same if I Grandma it or rev to the beep.
Beat this
Old 01-11-2006 | 01:26 PM
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I wonder how this will affect the CAFE law. Now that everyones estimated mpg is going to go way down, will the government still force auto companies to comply with CAFE?

...the plot thickens
Old 01-11-2006 | 01:26 PM
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every car I've ever owned I got better milage than the sticker..... the rx8 is the only one that's been right on the money.

my civic got 10 mpg higher than the sticker... i routinely got low 50's with it. sticker was 38/44 mpg.
Old 01-11-2006 | 01:27 PM
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you have a thermostat problem
Old 01-11-2006 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by beefyjoe
This is just vindication that the EPA are a bunch of liars and it's all a conspiracy by the government to make us think that we are getting good milage...
or they were just using an outdated methodology that was formulated 30 years ago, and doesn't/didn't take into effect modern day driving habits/situtations.
Old 01-11-2006 | 02:08 PM
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Glyphon: Got a blank copy of that spreadhsheet you wanna email me?
Old 01-11-2006 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotary Rasp
I wonder how this will affect the CAFE law. Now that everyones estimated mpg is going to go way down, will the government still force auto companies to comply with CAFE?

...the plot thickens
I'm sure that is the point of the EPA changing the standards. It means that the automakers will have to build even more fuel efficient models to offset their major offenders. Which is ok by me......I am sick of Chrysler putting a HEMI in every freakin' car and truck they make. Hey, does your Neon got a Hemi? Git ur done!!
Old 01-11-2006 | 02:36 PM
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Glyphon: Got a blank copy of that spreadhsheet you wanna email me?
You might also want to look at http://www.mtcpro.com/. They sell a program that tracks all your vehicles maintenance. You just enter your gas reciept info, it tracks your gas mileage AND tells you when oil changes and such are coming due based on miles or time.
Old 01-11-2006 | 03:35 PM
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Glyphon: Got a blank copy of that spreadhsheet you wanna email me?
yup, but based off of the link in the above post, i should be charging you
Old 01-11-2006 | 03:45 PM
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whoa Glyphon, you're one post away from 1,000!!! Make it count.

Ha, pointing that out to you should be worth something right??
Old 01-11-2006 | 03:47 PM
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lol...nope, because i was already at 1000 when i saw your post

don't worry, i'm not going to charge you for it
Old 01-11-2006 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Aseras
every car I've ever owned I got better milage than the sticker..... the rx8 is the only one that's been right on the money.

my civic got 10 mpg higher than the sticker... i routinely got low 50's with it. sticker was 38/44 mpg.

In 20 years of driving I NEVER achived HIGHER milage than the sticker.

You're doing something wrong with the math, or you only drive downhill.
Old 01-11-2006 | 04:20 PM
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6.5mpg at the dragon (i was also on tires 2% smaller than stock so really 6.37mpg)

9mpg in the winter on solely city driving (granted i warm the car up)

12mpg summertime city driving

first tank on the highway 17-18mpg

second tank on an extended trip 22-24.5mpg

my 8 is wierd.
Old 01-11-2006 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Glyphon
or they were just using an outdated methodology that was formulated 30 years ago, and doesn't/didn't take into effect modern day driving habits/situtations.
No, I think its a big fat conspiracy.

I think they are using us a guniea pigs.

We buy the oil, we burn the oil in our cars, we cause global warming, we use more electricity for our airconditioners (because we are staying inside more often cause it's too expensive to drive around), and we send the cash bloated oil company CEO's who go on lavish vacations to the Maldive Islands, where they have parties with strippers dressed as Elvis, doing blow, and eating saber-toothed tiger steaks.

It all fits...
Old 01-11-2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MazdaspeedFeras
6.5mpg at the dragon (i was also on tires 2% smaller than stock so really 6.37mpg)

9mpg in the winter on solely city driving (granted i warm the car up)

12mpg summertime city driving

first tank on the highway 17-18mpg

second tank on an extended trip 22-24.5mpg

my 8 is wierd.
Damn you might was well throw in a V12 in that 8 with those kind of mileages
Old 01-11-2006 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by beefyjoe
No, I think its a big fat conspiracy.

I think they are using us a guniea pigs.

We buy the oil, we burn the oil in our cars, we cause global warming, we use more electricity for our airconditioners (because we are staying inside more often cause it's too expensive to drive around), and we send the cash bloated oil company CEO's who go on lavish vacations to the Maldive Islands, where they have parties with strippers dressed as Elvis, doing blow, and eating saber-toothed tiger steaks.

It all fits...
No one eats Bald Eagle egg omlettes anymore?


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