pistonhater

I don't 'hate' your response. My original question was about your opinion on a 2011 RX-8 not the entire line of sports cars out there.

Jeez, if was on the market for a Mustang or a 370Z, don't you think I would be posting on their respective forums?


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I did not ask for opinions on other cars!!!!

Isn't this an RX-8 forum?

georgemagana

Whats your problem? your a noob thats asking for help then you get it and reply like that?? Go and buy it right now and lose $10 000 on the car in 1 year if thats what you want then in 2012 when the next gen RX comes out lose another 5000$ on the car! you do whatever you want! i was trying to open your eyes with my opinion!

RX8Soldier

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xexok

Yes and if people on an rx8 forum are telling you that there are better options for the money then maybe take note? If you dont mind horrible gas mileage with none of the power and torque that usually come with that, get an rx8. If you dont mind not being as fast as other cars in the same price range but having really good handling, get an rx8.

Personally I saw the rx8 on the lot when I was out shopping for cars and I loved how it looked so much I quit looking for other cars and started just looking around for the best deal on an rx8. Then I drove one for the first time and loved it even more.

To me, this is a fast car. Its faster than what I was driving for 8 years prior to this so fast is all relative.

pistonhater

Excuse me Mr. 55 posts calling me a noob




Thanks, I really appreciate you sharing your buying experience. The 8 would be certainly faster than what I've been driving over the past few years!!!! I certainly know there are better options for the money. But none of them have rotary engines

Like I said before, I've been around rotaries in the past. Not around the 8 as much. I've visited this site for like a year now, reading and reading hundreds of threads,, but decided to join now that I was getting close to buying my first 8.

My point is that it really surprises me hearing people turning me away from the car. It just proves what people in other car forums say against the RX-8.

If you guys are encouraging me to get a 370Z or a Mustang instead, then the bad reputation of the 8 must be really true.

xexok

I have heard lots of bad things about the engine, most of them being about s1 rx8s. You would be getting an s2 and theres really not enough of them out there with lots of miles on them to know how they will hold up yet. I know that if you look in the s2 forums I dont think theres anyone that has posted in there with a busted engine.

They did do a few things to the s2s that *should* make them more reliable but only time will tell.

Thats from the "year by year changes" thread for the 2009 model, which is the first year for an s2. Stronger transmission, and added a 3rd oil nozzle to lube the engine I believe. If anything you can be safe in saying it should last longer than previous engines if you take care of it properly.

I dont think people really want to turn you away, most people see the car and decide they want to buy it without actually knowing the issues they could be facing. Thats how it was for me but I researched it before I really started looking for them and even knowing all the bad I still wanted one.

pistonhater

Wow, thanks a lot for that reply. I really appreciate that. It was very, very helpful and informative.

Like you, after reading lots of info including the good, the bad and the ugly; I still want one

georgemagana

k so your obviously really inmature. 55 posts means i have a life and that i dont spend all day here. I come here to learn ( searching and reading) not posting stupid **** like you do! If i know my **** i dont need to make a posts eveyday ! and every time i post is to ask something that i couldnt find by searching and to help people when ever i can but people you dont deserve any help! Like how old are you to come with that argument? You can have 10 post in 2 days and NO CAR? so whats the point? grow up!

Flashwing

Oh boy,

For what it's worth, here's my opinion after 5 years of ownership and over 100,000 driven miles.

I don't regret my purchase of my 2005 RX8 in the slightest. Aside from the various social connections and even my involvement with BHR being tied up in it, the car itself is fun to drive at all times. That being said, it really comes down to what you want out of a car.

There was a recent review of the RX8 that I think summarizes it very well. The RX8 is not a car that can be compared on paper. If you get off on bragging 1/4 mile time, horsepower stats or what not to your friends then this isn't the car for you. The RX8 is a car that must be experienced.

Sure, it's not the most powerful or even the fastest in a straight line. I see people cry because the new 4 door family mobile can beat their RX8. If you're so insecure with yourself that you're worried about racing your neighbor's wife in her mini-van then perhaps you should spend your money talking to a shrink instead of a car. If the RX8 has taught me anything, it's that horsepower does not equal performance and neither does 0-60 times.

Some people like hitting the throttle and being slammed into their seat for the whole 10 or 20 seconds that they merge onto the highway before throwing out the anchor and holding up traffic for 20 miles for people like me. That's fine. Shop accordingly. This isn't the car for you.

The RX8 is a driver's car. I had a bunch of friends with Evo's and STI's who blew my doors off with how much faster they were. I could never keep up. A few months later I did my first mountain run and while they were all screaming like little girls with fright I was laughing like a sinister mad scientist who just discovered how to reanimate Frankenstein. I came out of that drive a changed man and I've never regretted it for one second.

Yeah I've made improvements. My RX8 is a shadow of it's stock self with suspension, cooling, tuning, nitrous, wheels, tires, brakes, gauges, blah blah blah...and now my wallet is on fire. I feel that it only made the car better. It wasn't that I thought the car was inferior, it was I thought I couldn't race it till it was perfect and I was dead wrong.

My advice? Buy it but ONLY if you love it. Ignore the comments about financing a deprecating asset. You don't buy a car you love because you plan to sell it. Buy it because you want to experience it. It's a classy ride that you can thrash at the race track and then take your special woman friend out to dinner in afterwards. Don't wait for the "next rotary car" as right now the next RX whatever is vapor ware. I believe it will be here but how long and in what form is still anyone's guess.

And finally, about the modifications: It's true that the S2 is limited in what can be done but not as much as you think. The limitations come in with engine management but people who have been around since 2005 know that we still got by fine without the accessPORT. You would be limited in any kind of forced induction adventures. The S1 engine issues have been hashed out and the cause is well known. BHR has long advocated that the AP, which allows increased OMP output, and the sohn adapter (with premixing being your option) would prevent any premature engine failure issues.

The RX8 isn't going to be everyone's choice which is why there are hundreds of cars out there. If you're a true driver though you'll love it.

Texas RX8 R3

^ +1k on your review!

Yeah, the 8 is a car that you love or hate. It's not for folks who get their heart broken after seeing the numbers & specs on paper. It's a driver's car, especially like no other. I've been through my share of faster cars, but if you truly look closely, ultimate speed is not the what the 8 is about. It's a very unique sports car which combines great versatility within everyday driving. When you look & compare the positive aspects of the 8, you see that it has a low curb weight, awesome steering feel, and it makes use of its power through revving sky high. I've test driven some of its competition, and the 8's cockpit is tight & together. Very athletic car, inside & out. Most importantly, this baby defines what a sports car should be best at: Handling, lightness, and athleticism. It really feels and connects with the driver like a TRUE sports car should.

Sorry for continuing the 'war' of comparing to other sports cars. I admit though, those other cars have their very own shining points as well.

ANYWAYS...

OP, like some others have also mentioned on specifically getting a new 8, I urge you to definitely consider a '10 MY over an '11. Take advantage of those rebates, I'm telling you man.

All the best with your decision!

xsnipersgox

1) Use a loan to pay the car, pay off in 1 to 2 years, ideally 0% interest : time value of money.
2) Buy 2010 RX8
or

1) Save and invest money in a different account
2) Buy a real toy car in 2013.. say.. the next RX... this is what i am doing.

pistonhater

WOW! Your reply/review was REALLY helpful. I've read it like 5 times already no kiddin.

Quite frankly, it is the most helpful, unbiased and objective review I've read in a while on this forum.

Thanks a lot man.

I appreciate your comments as well. Actually, it didn't feel to me you were engaging on that war of comparing the 8 with other sports cars.

Thanks a lot.

Are you really? Even when the next RX comes, wouldn't you want to wait until they clear the bugs and issues that might come out of the first batch? I've been thinking about this lately.

BTW, thanks for sharing your opinion. Very interesting points!!

pistonhater

I have scheduled to become a mature man by next year. And if I keep reading your posts, I'll probably get there sooner or perhaps buy a Mustang or 370Z in between.

You may want to read the messages people posted after you, especially flashwing's comments/reviews. Want to help a new forum member learn something constructive? Do you think you know something worth sharing? That's a perfect example on how to do it

tcole6

1. The R3 is the right model to get.
2. In a few years (when Mazda releases the next generation) you will probably not have that low interest offer and the resale value will be unknown so your negotiating power will be much less. Currently you can negotiate a good $4-5k off the list (in my experience).
3. You will have the newest example of an excellent car no longer in production. That is cool.

Since you've kinda thrown out the used car option, I would buy new now, while the deals are there to get.

TheWulf

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If it isn't going to be your main car, I recommend saving a lot of money and buying a used 1st gen. Way easier to mod (more availability in parts), and you won't want to kill yourself if you wreck it at the track (assuming of course you will want to track it, which I 100% recommend).

Polish Person

Mazda confirmed a 2012 model, so just wait a year. If you buy used one to hold you over, get one as dirt cheap as possible. No sense in springing for a nice one, if it's only for a year and it'll loose all it's value with the new model.

pistonhater

That was exactly what I had in mind!

Actually, I've called several places for quotes, and quite frankly, some of these dealerships are kind of desperate to get rid of the few 2010 models around. That is not a bad thing!

Good point, although if I save money I would probably prefer to wait for the next RX model anyway.

But you are right, a used 1st gen would be a great choice for mods!

Really? I was under the impression Mazda had not fully confirmed that yet. If that's the case, I would be very tempted to just wait. A year goes by very fast.

Perhaps that's another reason why dealerships are so desperate to clear whatever is left of the 8