Would you recommend an RX8 in my situation?
#26
Originally Posted by alnielsen
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Statistically, however, I'm quite right. Perhaps you're one of the few who can control yourself when it's snowy and easy to slide around. Many teenagers can't. Especially the type who are attracted to sportscars, and can afford an RX-8.
#28
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From: In the hills between San Miguel and Parkfield - "up in the boonie lands", Central Coast of California, Wine Country
Consider tire studs for nasty weather regardless of car and drive system. Snow, especially fresh is not bad with good snow tires or chains, but when it goes into ice or you have one of those boilerplate ice storms where everything has an inch thick coating of crystal, then studded tires are life saving! Lived for a couple up years up a steep hill in Tenn. and had to commute to the school in Nashville, or OakRidge Lab, regardless of foul weather and we had some really evil ice storms - slow speed and studded tires and you can climb mountains!
#29
While the stats are against you as an inexperienced driver, at some point you have to drive a RWD to learn how to drive a RWD. I know it seems ridiculously obvious, but Dad certainly can't argue that. I had pickups when I was starting, w/less rear weight & RWD they (arguably) can be even worse. The 'inexperience' arguement is kind of silly IMO.
Then again, the opinion about the $$$ saved getting a beater & paying WAY less in insurance is tough to argue. And then those damn statisitics that are not in your favor . . .
Then again, the opinion about the $$$ saved getting a beater & paying WAY less in insurance is tough to argue. And then those damn statisitics that are not in your favor . . .
#30
Originally Posted by Winfree
Consider tire studs for nasty weather regardless of car and drive system. Snow, especially fresh is not bad with good snow tires or chains, but when it goes into ice or you have one of those boilerplate ice storms where everything has an inch thick coating of crystal, then studded tires are life saving! Lived for a couple up years up a steep hill in Tenn. and had to commute to the school in Nashville, or OakRidge Lab, regardless of foul weather and we had some really evil ice storms - slow speed and studded tires and you can climb mountains!
#31
Originally Posted by Ike
That's awful advice. He lives in NJ, not Greenland...
#32
the rx8 is not a good car for an 18 year old. its too easy to drive, but has enough to get you in trouble. at 18 i would have argued with that statment, but i would have been wrong. the rx8, even with snow tires, is not the greatest winter car. they make a huge difference over the stock, but you can still get stuck easially enough.
#35
You should listen to your Dad. Even when he's wrong, it's (almost) always right to listen to your Dad when you're 18. Wish I'd listened to my Dad more when I was your age. When he's not around any more, you'll be glad. My Dad always felt better when each of his kids had their first accident, especially if it involved a loss of traction in rain or snow. He figured you couldn't teach us anything until we began to realize how little we really knew. Your first car, even when your rich, should be modest and practical. Sorry, just my opinion.
#36
I grew up in SD where you can start driving at 14 and there is snow on the ground half the year. I've owned RWD cars since I was 15 and have never had an issue. Maybe the way to go is something a little more "beaterish" but RWD to get you accustomed to the way they drive. 240SX's are really fun cars, they can be had for cheap, they are RWD and are a lot of handling bang for the buck. I've owned 2 and loved them both.
#37
Originally Posted by 4 years to Supercharge
Swoope you crack me up. Reminds me of Rainman...
I have said this before but don't mind saying it again with the tires I have on my 8 for the winter (Dunlop M3 Winter sport) the car has been the easiest to drive of all the cars I have driven during the winter. From what I have heard Blizzaks do quite well also.
Main reason for ease is the traction and stability control. This is somewhat critical if planning to drive in snow and cold conditions.
I have said this before but don't mind saying it again with the tires I have on my 8 for the winter (Dunlop M3 Winter sport) the car has been the easiest to drive of all the cars I have driven during the winter. From what I have heard Blizzaks do quite well also.
Main reason for ease is the traction and stability control. This is somewhat critical if planning to drive in snow and cold conditions.
that was the intent!!!
i drove an audi 80 with the blazzaks the first year they came out.... the audi was just fwd..... the traction was amazing.
felt like superman... and i am sure they are better now..
beers
#38
What a lot of people don't get is that its the operating tempure of the tires compound that ***** you up. You could go out on a day thats 0 degrees with completely dry roads and your tires would grease over.
This part is important too: In the winter you want a skinny (width) tire with a thick sidewall. The MT rx8 (you'll be very dissapointed with the auto.. so we won't talk about it) has brakes that wont fit in a wheel any smaller than 17". That means to get a thicker sidewall you're going to buy a set of rims that are pretty much no wider than 7.5" and no smaller than 17". It's extremely important to get winter tires on any car but the rx8 is too nice of a car to wreck in the snow. If you think your life/car is worth at least a set of tires (rims would be nice too... becuase you'll get a thicker sidewall that way) BUY THEM. I know I'm going to because I plan on driving my 8 in the snow as well.
This part is important too: In the winter you want a skinny (width) tire with a thick sidewall. The MT rx8 (you'll be very dissapointed with the auto.. so we won't talk about it) has brakes that wont fit in a wheel any smaller than 17". That means to get a thicker sidewall you're going to buy a set of rims that are pretty much no wider than 7.5" and no smaller than 17". It's extremely important to get winter tires on any car but the rx8 is too nice of a car to wreck in the snow. If you think your life/car is worth at least a set of tires (rims would be nice too... becuase you'll get a thicker sidewall that way) BUY THEM. I know I'm going to because I plan on driving my 8 in the snow as well.
#39
Originally Posted by robrecht
My Dad always felt better when each of his kids had their first accident, especially if it involved a loss of traction in rain or snow.
#40
I don't understand why everyone just assumes this is my first car lol...its not ... I was tortured and made fun of cause I drove an '88 Chevy Celebrity for 2 years! And had to bring girls in it...How freakin' embarrassing haha ....The cool thing was....that it only had 30,000 miles on it.......but still....it is a shitty looking car and I deserve and RX8 since I drove that piece of **** to my private prep school where my friends drove Jaguars and Mercedes !! lol (i'm not rich though..so don't get that idea)
#41
Originally Posted by Metallicamasta
I don't understand why everyone just assumes this is my first car lol...its not ... I was tortured and made fun of cause I drove an '88 Chevy Celebrity for 2 years! And had to bring girls in it...How freakin' embarrassing haha ....The cool thing was....that it only had 30,000 miles on it.......but still....it is a shitty looking car and I deserve and RX8 since I drove that piece of **** to my private prep school where my friends drove Jaguars and Mercedes !! lol (i'm not rich though..so don't get that idea)
beers
#42
Originally Posted by Metallicamasta
I don't understand why everyone just assumes this is my first car lol...its not ... I was tortured and made fun of cause I drove an '88 Chevy Celebrity for 2 years! And had to bring girls in it...How freakin' embarrassing haha ....The cool thing was....that it only had 30,000 miles on it.......but still....it is a shitty looking car and I deserve and RX8 since I drove that piece of **** to my private prep school where my friends drove Jaguars and Mercedes !! lol (i'm not rich though..so don't get that idea)
Are you going to pay for it?
#44
[QUOTE]It can be true, folks. Given a certain number of people that have been driving for two years, some of them ARE going to be good drivers. Geez, there's always such skepticism. Not entirely without reason - you're probably just playing the odds, but I'm tired of seeing young drivers get auto-bashed (no pun intended) just because they are young.
I guess there is no particular reason why 16-18 year olds have more accidents than any other age category...this includes the 70+ age range.
I guess there is no particular reason why 16-18 year olds have more accidents than any other age category...this includes the 70+ age range.
#45
#47
No. Why? Simple, anytime you or anyone else says they deserve something because they dealt with a small inconvience, do not deserve anything. You deserve a $30k car because you had to be like every normal teenager who drives a piece of crap for 2 years? Most normal teens drive a piece of crap from high school all the way through college and then some to get the car they want.
#48
Originally Posted by ALP22
I have to disagree on the mazda 6 comments... All Wheel Drive means exactly that - DRIVE. i.e. all 4 wheels will work to get the car moving and keep it moving, but when it comes to stopping, you have exactly the same amount of braking power as a regular 2WD car. All wheel drive does not equal better braking, and it often means worse due to the extra weight of the transmission.
I think in terms of safety, stopping distances, and general handling, an 8 with snow tires plus DSC is equal if not better to an AWD car with all-season tires.
I think in terms of safety, stopping distances, and general handling, an 8 with snow tires plus DSC is equal if not better to an AWD car with all-season tires.
People's blind love of the RX-8 on this board really amazes me. I own an 8. I love it. I, however, do not thing it is the greatest thing since sliced bread for everything under the sun. The 8 is not a snow car. It can don some snow shoes and get around just fine, as long as the driver's not a moron, but jesus, get a clue.
#50
Originally Posted by ds2000
Yay, I get to post this pic again
and we all know how much FWHP that a mustang makes.
Where's the other picture? You know...the one of them being towed out of a ditch.