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Old 07-18-2007 | 11:42 AM
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I dont get it, if a 1.5l rotary can be a sustantial improvement over the renesis why are they testin a 2.0l? what car would this engine be put in? how powerfull would a 2.0l DI rotary engine be?
I don't care what they put it in, as long as I can get one put in the Kabura model...that's got to be a near 375-400bhp engine.
Old 07-18-2007 | 11:48 AM
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Im sorry that im going to say this, but I dont think mazda has the cojones do make a 2,600lbs car with a 350+ hp engine

thats a 7.43/1 power to weight ratio, thats ferrari range
Old 07-18-2007 | 11:50 AM
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Im sorry that im going to say this, but I dont think mazda has the cojones do make a 2,600lbs car with a 350+ hp engine

thats a 7.43/1 power to weight ratio, thats ferrari range
I don't either...I'm thinking if that engine exists, it would be just for racing, or something like your Cosmo...I wasn't really clear in my post, I was thinking engine swap.
Old 07-18-2007 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Devil
I don't either...I'm thinking if that engine exists, it would be just for racing, or something like your Cosmo...I wasn't really clear in my post, I was thinking engine swap.
har har har!

They're not going to drop a 400 hp rotary engine into a 4 door car from the 70's. Silly!
Old 07-18-2007 | 11:54 AM
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there is still the posibility mazda wants to get up to the corvette, skyline, porche 911 level, and if they are going to do it it will have to be with a light car and a engine that make 350+ hp
Old 07-18-2007 | 11:56 AM
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har har har!

They're not going to drop a 400 hp rotary engine into a 4 door car from the 70's. Silly!
he was refering to my JC cosmo
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Old 07-18-2007 | 11:57 AM
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har har har!

They're not going to drop a 400 hp rotary engine into a 4 door car from the 70's. Silly!
Keepin' it old skool...that's when keepin' it real goes right, ***** *****.
Old 07-18-2007 | 11:58 AM
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har har har!

They're not going to drop a 400 hp rotary engine into a 4 door car from the 70's. Silly!
NAGARE or RYUGA!!! ( not sure about the spelling)
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
he was refering to my JC cosmo
yes.

btw:

sarcasm > you
Old 07-18-2007 | 12:01 PM
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sarcasm never heard of him
Old 07-18-2007 | 12:01 PM
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I guess i'm the only one here who doesn't like the new mazda concept cars.

i'd much prefer something sleek and sporty. even a mildly modified rx-7 from 10 years ago would work nicely.
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I dont like them either, but remember that they are only conceps, they change alot before they resemble something that might hit the road

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Old 07-18-2007 | 12:06 PM
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That Ryuga would be a hell of a predecessor to the current 3(hatch) though wouldnt it? I actually really liked it when I saw it in person. The pictures don't do it justice.
Old 07-18-2007 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rotary crazy
I dont get it, if a 1.5l rotary can be a sustantial improvement over the renesis why are they testin a 2.0l? what car would this engine be put in? how powerfull would a 2.0l DI rotary engine be?
Was this actually mentioned somewhere and I missed it? I said something about a 2.0L yesterday but it was purely me rambling. You could make a hell of a lot of (piston amounts) of torque with something that large.
Old 07-18-2007 | 12:12 PM
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Was this actually mentioned somewhere and I missed it? I said something about a 2.0L yesterday but it was purely me rambling. You could make a hell of a lot of (piston amounts) of torque with something that large.
Zoom made mention in his last post.

I really liked the Kabura concept with the exception of the third door.
Old 07-18-2007 | 12:14 PM
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oh i took that to mean like ...version 1.5/2.0...the current renesis being version 1.0

I guess thats just me being around computers too much.
Old 07-18-2007 | 12:15 PM
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this is getting exciting, one thing is clear I pick a great year to go to sevenstock
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with a 2L rotary, i'll be first in line.
Old 07-18-2007 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mac11
That Ryuga would be a hell of a predecessor to the current 3(hatch) though wouldnt it? I actually really liked it when I saw it in person. The pictures don't do it justice.
On the Kabura boards, someone did a Photochop of the Ryuga with a spolier and aero kit... looks interesting-
http://www.kaburaforums.com/forums/s...96&postcount=1

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Bigger picture-
http://bp2.blogger.com/_yzb91PHHy60/...ga-Concept.jpg

from the blog
http://rextreme.blogspot.com/2007/04...a-concept.html
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Old 07-18-2007 | 01:50 PM
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2L with DI would be a huge leap of advancement for the engine. I would sell my kidneys in a heartbeat.
Old 07-18-2007 | 04:15 PM
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I'm sure most of the people here would like to see a new RX-7 in some form or fashion, or at least another rotary sports coupe with some more power. The problem is that we're seeing piston engines becoming so much more technologically advanced, getting more horsepower per liter, higher red lines, better fuel economy because everyone in the industry uses them.. whereas Mazda is all by themselves these days with the Rotary and you just don't have the financial backing to get that kind of technological advancement and research done.

The technology gap is only getting wider and by 2010/2011, the rotary may just be too far behind. Yes, there are some technologies that are applicable to both, IE direct injection, new forms of ignition, ethanol/methanol injection, however the rotary is still behind by quite a bit. In order for a new RX-7 to come along and be successful in today's piston world, it is my opinion that a technological leap will be required.
Technological leap:
Make the 20B emmisions friendly and drop it into the 8. Already have the engine blueprints. The technology that was used to make the Renesis emmisions friendly is also documented and blueprinted. Now making a 20B Renesis with already existing parts and R&D cuts development cost by a lot. 2700-2900lb RX8 with a 20B Renesis cranking out 325bhp with the same gas mileage or slightly better. The 20B is already been EXTENSIVELY tried and tested through many races NA and FI'd.
Old 07-18-2007 | 04:26 PM
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I allready have a list of the people im going to get drunk at sevenstock
Old 07-18-2007 | 04:45 PM
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Am i on that list?
Old 07-18-2007 | 04:57 PM
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Am i on that list?
Nah,you dont know anything j/k

seriously, it would be great if we all could meet there, that way you can help get those people really drunk

I was thinking of getting every japanesse I saw drunk, but japanesse have the habit of starting to speak in japanesse once they are drunk, so i came up with a better plan......
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I'll have to bring some of my old engineering school buddies from college to translate.


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