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Old 03-03-2003 | 08:27 PM
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thanks everyone who helped get this posted!:D
Old 03-03-2003 | 08:58 PM
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Just adding the values for Page 5, as it's a toughie to read:

RX-8
0-60: 6.2 seconds
0-100: 16.7 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.8 seconds
30-70mph: 21.1 seconds
Peak Accel.: .65g
Top Speed 150mph
70-0mph: 153 feet
Peak Braking: 1.12g
Cornering l/r: .95/.93

BMW 330i
0-60: 6.5 seconds
0-100: 17.4 seconds
1/4 mile: 15.1 seconds
30-70mph: 16.9 seconds
Peak Accel.: .65g
Top Speed 128mph
70-0mph: 157 feet
Peak Braking: 1.12g
Cornering l/r: .92/.91

350Z
0-60: 5.6 seconds
0-100: 14.4 seconds
1/4 mile: 14.2 seconds
30-70mph: 16.8 seconds
Peak Accel.: .66g
Top Speed 155mph
70-0mph: 176 feet
Peak Braking: 1.17g
Cornering l/r: .99/.96
Old 03-03-2003 | 09:08 PM
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my thanks too. Hopefully mine arrives tomorrow! (Automobile mag, not RX-8)
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Thanks for the post Herc!
Old 03-03-2003 | 09:13 PM
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It's still hard to know what to make of the whole concept of a four-door sports car. If the RX-8 were a simple 2+2 that required circus-caliber acrobatics to climb into the rear seat, no one would say a word. But it offers real-world rear-seat accomodation, only not like a BMW. It delivers true sports car performance, only not like a Nissan Z-car. It's simply not like anything else, much like the rotary engine itself. Certain kinds of drivers will make their way to this car, and they won't be like Porsche, Nissan, or BMW drivers. They'll be after something else.
I'd say that pretty much says it all. This is my favorite review so far. Thanks guys!
Old 03-03-2003 | 09:16 PM
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How did the Roadpig 350z beat the 8 in cornering.
Just an honest question When's spring want to test drive now.

And thanks.:D :D
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Old 03-03-2003 | 10:50 PM
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Mazda is officially back!
Old 03-03-2003 | 10:52 PM
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what do the cornering values indicate?

is this like skidpad? in this case, is the article saying the z outperforms the rx8?
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Hahahaha!!! If you guys think that Z people are ********, wait until the BMW camp gets ahold of this! They're going to riot! 330i drivers know better than to punk up on a Z, but you guys are going to be picking on them! Bravo!

IMO, this is the best article yet that outlines in succinct fashion exactly what the RX-8 is built to do... ZOOM ZOOM!
Old 03-03-2003 | 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by droidekaus
Hahahaha!!! If you guys think that Z people are ********, wait until the BMW camp gets ahold of this! They're going to riot! 330i drivers know better than to punk up on a Z, but you guys are going to be picking on them! Bravo!

IMO, this is the best article yet that outlines in succinct fashion exactly what the RX-8 is built to do... ZOOM ZOOM!
Having been a frequent visitor and participant of Bimmerfest.com, I've found that most BMW fans are generally liking the RX-8
Old 03-03-2003 | 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by Hercules
Having been a frequent visitor and participant of Bimmerfest.com, I've found that most BMW fans are generally liking the RX-8
Agreed. Bimmerfest.com is a *good* site. Bimmer.org is another story...
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Great article, balanced and thoughtful. Enough obsessing over whose got the better stat in this or that category. As far as I'm concerned, it's the whole package that counts in the end, and it seems the new RX does double duty with considerable grace. Favorite read so far. I think Mazda has another Miata in its hands. And I hope once these are on the streets, the buzz will help get the sales of the 6 moving.

Thanks StephenF and Herc!
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great article, though i never would've thought of putting Rx-8 and 330i side by side
Old 03-04-2003 | 10:11 AM
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Great article -- just as I thought:

The RX-8 is more versatile than the Z (read here the current fav in reasonably priced sports cars) and more of a sports car than the 330i (read here the cream of the sports sedan crop). The best of both worlds in a package that is unique and provides just as much driving fun/excitment (in its own way) as anything on the road.

Now when Mazda takes the handcuffs off the Renesis (280 to 300 hp) we will see how the 8 will shine.:D Even though I want it now I understand their dire need to prove the reliability of the Renesis and hit a certain price point.
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WTF??

The highest skidpad I've seen for the 350z until now was 0.88 and now they somehow got 0.99? I can understand a difference of .02 or .03, but .11?
Old 03-04-2003 | 11:05 AM
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Once you rev the rotary to its 8500-rpm power peak, you'll never give a second thought to the passengers again.
Don't bother me, I'm Driving:D

...the twin rotor...produces only two power pulses per engine revolution...
I must be misunderstandin' sumpin, because I thought every time a rotor face passed the plugs there's a power pulse. So wouldn't that mean 6 powerpulses per engine rev? edit: After a slight walk away from the computer (darn work anyway) I realized my mistake. When I think of an engine rev, I'm thinking of rotor revs, not flywheel revs.

And I'm suprised peak accel is the same on all. With the lower torque of the RX-8, I'd've thought that it'd have less butt dyno accel. Is it because low torque plus high revs and more gearing (RX-8) gets same torque to the rear wheels as more torque with lower revs and less gearing (BMW & Z)?

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I believe the rotors turn at 1/3 the speed of the eccentric shaft, so with 1 side of each of 2 rotors "igniting" that would make 2 power pulses per eccentric shaft revolution. Corrections???


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