Kart Racer

I think if they really want a rotary car to challenge the 350Z, STI , EVO, and even corvette again, like the FD, they should just build the car in a more lightweight package! The car is light enough as is, but if they build (lets say, an RX-9) make the package smaller, and remove some creature comforts, use lighter weight materials, and try and get it somewhere around the 2500lb mark, or lower. (Miata range). That way even with the same powerplant as the current renesis, the car will be faster, and handle better.

rotary crazy

except the mazda2, its 100lbs lighter

playdoh43

its 100lb lighter than what?, im not familiar with the mazda 2, but i thought its a new car.

Nemesis8

iTrader: (3)

I just hope it has real gauges this time around...

rotary crazy

100lbs lighter than the previous gen, it was called DEMIO in japan

Endgame

If Mazda comes out with a 270-300 HP rotary, at least the same weight or lighter than the RX8, I will stronger consider playing. If they came out with a RX7, 340-370 HP weighing in at 2780-2920, I am sold!!!

Endgame

Oh, and it would have to look similar to the 8 as I LOVE its design. The look alone of that car, I may just decide to keep it over any new rotary... Maybe an engine swap could be in order with the new engine??

rotary crazy

if mazda makes a 300hp 2750lbs rotary car, they have my money! and if its NA they will have it faster

playdoh43

if mazda makes a 550hp 2200lb rotary car and cost less than than 30k, does laundry, fires death rays, and changes into a big robot I'm sold!

Endgame

Amen brother.

toxin440

well I can't wait until 2010 for a new car - it seems that the tug of war for my money is going to be betweeen BMW's new M3 and Nissan's GT-R.

seems the BMW is going to hit first, but I dont think im going to buy until I can drive both of them side by side (relatively speaking)

mtrevino

Sorry, I know that's the wet dream for these boards... but from a business model standpoint, I don't think they want to reproduce the sales numbers of the 3rd gen RX-7. That car you specified there would be priced around $40-$45K.

As long as we're talking miracles- 270hp, increase of mpg, and the same weight would be perfect for the RX8. As stated in their "Sustainable Zoom Zoom", they're working more on ideas for less weight, not heavy muscle.

michael

Renesis_8

A 2780lb 370HP RX-7 is almost supercar performance, it'll kill the GTR and 420hp M3. It wont happen!, unless mazda has a huge chunk of money lying around to make a super halo car.
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rotary crazy

agree, but 2750lbs and 300hp would be more than enough

Red Devil

An all-aluminum DISI engine would be just fine.

Endgame

I am very well aware of that. And, so.... Put the turbo 4 in the Kabura for the lower end sports car and make a new RX7 with a 320 HP rotary to make it a halo car... You never know!! Wonder why Mazda has taken so much interest in the Rolex Series?? Helping out the Speedsource boys some; maybe investment for the future in a high power Rotary.....maybe.....?

XRX8X

i guess japan is lucky i was no where around in the development of this car. first and formost you get 330horses out the box with 4in exhaust tuned to us specs .the exhaust would have double chambers to sound aggressive but not to overpowering in the noise dept. with all the techs in the world to make it to the moon it should not be to hard to please a few rotor heads like me.i still love my car but the future seems a bit dim for the rotor power from the factory!i still waiting on a good super charger but time will tell and i hope i am not to old the see the light at the end of this tunnel!

Design1stCode2nd

More like 2013 so they can get all the bugs out of the engine like they needed to do with teh current Renesis.

dynamho

I think future development for the automobile industry will probably be made in the field of materials science. Lighter, stronger, and more resilient stuff for motor components, chassis, and panels. Lightweight and plush interior materials with superb sound-damping qualities, etc.

All this reduction of weight without sacrificing benefits and creature comforts can reduce emissions by allowing considerably smaller motors to be used.

rotary crazy

Mazda is allready well avance in the materials field, the next gen of cars will demostrate this, starting with the mazda2, mazda6, etc.

mikefrombarrie

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but then again i will hopefully be able to fly by the Z-06's when i get the car back, with more hp (probably similar torque) and nearly the same weight, and i am going to have much torquier gearing than the vette

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Hehe, keep on dreaming... With 390HP on the RX-8 it is still 2 seconds slower then a regular Corvette from 0 to 100mph.

mtrevino

I'm not trying to make trouble... but that's what I don't want to happen. Why would I want mazda to make a super-badass rotary car that I can't buy? I was very happy that I walked out of a dealership spending $24K to buy my RX-8. I couldn't afford a car that's planted in the $30K-40K range.

But I do like where you're going- Kabura for 18-22K, keep the RX-8 for 24-30K, and then an RX-7 for 30+K. That would be awesome.

brillo

Better Idea:

I would like a car that weighs 2500lb with an all aluminum DISI renesis NA engine.

You don't need 350+hp when your weight is 1100lb lighter than an M3 or GTR

rotary crazy

that would be the perfect sports car lineup

Ajax

The only problem with that lineup is that I'd want one of each...