Facelifted RX8 revealed!!!!
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I personally think a 4.77:1 rear end is a huge mistake on Mazda's part. I feel taht way about the 4.44:1 though. The car needs a 4.10:1 or go back to a 5 speed tranny. It's already got too much. More isn't better.
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You like driving at redline on the freeway and hate gas mileage? I'm exagerrating of course but the engine already spins far too fast for the speed the car is traveling. If you only use it as a track car, then I could see it as being useful. 4:10 would have been better but they need to compensate for the fact the RX-8 is a fat heavy pig of a vehicle for it's power level.
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There is alot we don't know at this point. It would appear Mazda made changes, rear end (hopefully tranny gearing), exhaust, prolly the cat and ECU, to get the car more average power. I bet when dyno'd the car is now slightly under rated, rather than over rated. Mazda likely didn't want to go through the brain damage and PR of re rating the car again, rather choose to get more average power and let the results speak for themselves in the magazine reviews. I bet the car dyno's around 203whp now.
Mazda prolly got another 10-12 peak whp out of the car, but from a marketing perspective, thats not going to make a HP junkie decide he doesn't want a Z anymore.
Mazda has to have changed the tranny ratios to compensate for the rear end, or the mileage is going to ****. If they didn't I'm going to be shocked....
Mazda prolly got another 10-12 peak whp out of the car, but from a marketing perspective, thats not going to make a HP junkie decide he doesn't want a Z anymore.
Mazda has to have changed the tranny ratios to compensate for the rear end, or the mileage is going to ****. If they didn't I'm going to be shocked....
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You like driving at redline on the freeway and hate gas mileage? I'm exagerrating of course but the engine already spins far too fast for the speed the car is traveling. If you only use it as a track car, then I could see it as being useful. 4:10 would have been better but they need to compensate for the fact the RX-8 is a fat heavy pig of a vehicle for it's power level.
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There is alot we don't know at this point. It would appear Mazda made changes, rear end (hopefully tranny gearing), exhaust, prolly the cat and ECU, to get the car more average power. I bet when dyno'd the car is now slightly under rated, rather than over rated. Mazda likely didn't want to go through the brain damage and PR of re rating the car again, rather choose to get more average power and let the results speak for themselves in the magazine reviews. I bet the car dyno's around 203whp now.
Mazda prolly got another 10-12 peak whp out of the car, but from a marketing perspective, thats not going to make a HP junkie decide he doesn't want a Z anymore.
Mazda has to have changed the tranny ratios to compensate for the rear end, or the mileage is going to ****. If they didn't I'm going to be shocked....
Mazda prolly got another 10-12 peak whp out of the car, but from a marketing perspective, thats not going to make a HP junkie decide he doesn't want a Z anymore.
Mazda has to have changed the tranny ratios to compensate for the rear end, or the mileage is going to ****. If they didn't I'm going to be shocked....
If the RX-8 gets 203whp in theroy, that meens the RX-8 would be producing close to 250HP. My 2002 Maxima Se 6 speed in stock form with 255HP 245/trq put out 210 WHP on the dyno, other Maxima drivers were in the range of 205-212whp depending on elevation, condition,etc. I say that to say this, if the next RX-8 produces close to that number of 203 WHP with less weight , the RX-8 is going to be a quick SOB! a stock 2002 Max as a refrence runs the 1/4 in 14. 5-14.7 with 3220 lbs, a quicker lighter RX-8 would definitely be knocking on the low 14 mark.... could Mazda have gotten it right finally?
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Very true.... i have a feeling Mazda underated the new RX-8, I read an article saying that it now scoots under 6 seconds without great effort. Our current RX-8 in order to get under 6 sec 0-60 you woud have to tach it higher 6k +rpms and let her rip.
If the RX-8 gets 203whp in theroy, that meens the RX-8 would be producing close to 250HP. My 2002 Maxima Se 6 speed in stock form with 255HP 245/trq put out 210 WHP on the dyno, other Maxima drivers were in the range of 205-212whp depending on elevation, condition,etc. I say that to say this, if the next RX-8 produces close to that number of 203 WHP with less weight , the RX-8 is going to be a quick SOB! a stock 2002 Max as a refrence runs the 1/4 in 14. 5-14.7 with 3220 lbs, a quicker lighter RX-8 would definitely be knocking on the low 14 mark.... could Mazda have gotten it right finally?
If the RX-8 gets 203whp in theroy, that meens the RX-8 would be producing close to 250HP. My 2002 Maxima Se 6 speed in stock form with 255HP 245/trq put out 210 WHP on the dyno, other Maxima drivers were in the range of 205-212whp depending on elevation, condition,etc. I say that to say this, if the next RX-8 produces close to that number of 203 WHP with less weight , the RX-8 is going to be a quick SOB! a stock 2002 Max as a refrence runs the 1/4 in 14. 5-14.7 with 3220 lbs, a quicker lighter RX-8 would definitely be knocking on the low 14 mark.... could Mazda have gotten it right finally?
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this also applies to the S2k. Without revving it up, the s2k is a dog. There was a huge thing back in the day about it.
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You like driving at redline on the freeway and hate gas mileage? I'm exagerrating of course but the engine already spins far too fast for the speed the car is traveling. If you only use it as a track car, then I could see it as being useful. 4:10 would have been better but they need to compensate for the fact the RX-8 is a fat heavy pig of a vehicle for it's power level.
Really, you ought to actually drive one before you make ridiculous comments like this.
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The bulge in the headlight is horrible.
I don't like the look of the front either. They are bigger, more like bug eyes.
Sure love those seats.
I wonder if I could get in and out of those?
I don't like the look of the front either. They are bigger, more like bug eyes.
Sure love those seats.
I wonder if I could get in and out of those?
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Who cares anyhow...
This car will only be around for a short while unless Mazda can pull 30mpg out of it...
Handling and good brakes will only go so far..Driving at Laguna Seca with the rev's up and cutting through the corners like hot **** in snow is great except that I-90 isn't a track....Maybe its because I don't live in the mountain's and I live in flat corn land..But why does a Sti still handles great,(you can even get steering racks with 12-10.5:1 ratios..) with power, and their owners can get 26-28mpg's on the highway? ..I read it in their gas mileage threads...The 8 is light, nimble, looks great and has the gas mileage of my brothers Titan. I'm so tired of seeing 8's getting there *** handed to them from RSX's and Srt-4's and 350's and my grandma sitting in a chair....sleeping....I know I know, its not a straight line car..I get it..BUT Neither is my prelude...
Before you yell at me for stating facts and tell me to go buy an Sti...or tell me to go buy something else if I want to go fast in a straight line...Just know that I can appreciate a good handling car, hence why I have a 1991 Honda prelude with 4WS.. Why does my Honda have more torque then the 8? How come I can get 30+mpg's on the highway... I'm just pissed at Mazda...This car company, who made what I feel is a replacement for the FC not the FD, is trying to cover up the 13b with less weight and different gearing...The 13b is a great motor, it spins very smoothly and has quite a linear power curve.... but Mazda really needs to ante up... Not like they really care anyhow...seeing how they treat their customers by throwing away the customer dealer report cards, and having their motors rebuilt and fail agian....
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This car will only be around for a short while unless Mazda can pull 30mpg out of it...
Handling and good brakes will only go so far..Driving at Laguna Seca with the rev's up and cutting through the corners like hot **** in snow is great except that I-90 isn't a track....Maybe its because I don't live in the mountain's and I live in flat corn land..But why does a Sti still handles great,(you can even get steering racks with 12-10.5:1 ratios..) with power, and their owners can get 26-28mpg's on the highway? ..I read it in their gas mileage threads...The 8 is light, nimble, looks great and has the gas mileage of my brothers Titan. I'm so tired of seeing 8's getting there *** handed to them from RSX's and Srt-4's and 350's and my grandma sitting in a chair....sleeping....I know I know, its not a straight line car..I get it..BUT Neither is my prelude...
Before you yell at me for stating facts and tell me to go buy an Sti...or tell me to go buy something else if I want to go fast in a straight line...Just know that I can appreciate a good handling car, hence why I have a 1991 Honda prelude with 4WS.. Why does my Honda have more torque then the 8? How come I can get 30+mpg's on the highway... I'm just pissed at Mazda...This car company, who made what I feel is a replacement for the FC not the FD, is trying to cover up the 13b with less weight and different gearing...The 13b is a great motor, it spins very smoothly and has quite a linear power curve.... but Mazda really needs to ante up... Not like they really care anyhow...seeing how they treat their customers by throwing away the customer dealer report cards, and having their motors rebuilt and fail agian....
Mazda FTL
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Unlocks the door - the 2007 have them too.
You have a credit card key thing and prox sensor - so when you walk up to your car and push the button it will unlock; the trunk has one too.
And I have mine programmed to auto lock whenever I walk away too.
You have a credit card key thing and prox sensor - so when you walk up to your car and push the button it will unlock; the trunk has one too.
And I have mine programmed to auto lock whenever I walk away too.
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QUOTE...Rotarygod..."You like driving at redline on the freeway and hate gas mileage? I'm exagerrating of course but the engine already spins far too fast for the speed the car is traveling. If you only use it as a track car, then I could see it as being useful. 4:10 would have been better but they need to compensate for the fact the RX-8 is a fat heavy pig of a vehicle for it's power level."
I concur with you on that Gomez....the Renesis is only 13" (45 cm) tall and and pound for pound you won't find many piston engines that can match it. When you also consider the changes over the years, this new model has got some signficant developments....(stats from RX8Club.com.au site)
2004
Sump Changed
Windscreen washer water bottle changed from black to clear (Late 04)
Green indicator arrows changed from green to yellow/green colour within dash
2005
Starter Motor Changed
Sunroof model added
Lightning Yellow removed
Flick key provided as standard
Limited Edition RX-8s available in Ebony Black (ie. Cherry/Coca-Cola colour) and Titanium Gr
2006
Changes to leather seats
Snowflake White Pearl added
Galaxy Grey replaces Titanium Grey
Stormy Blue added
Phantom Blue replaces Nordic Green?
2007
Reduction of Power by 7kw
3rd Oil Seal added*
change to side seals*
Lightning Yellow removed
2008
A longer list which is growing by the day...
2004
Sump Changed
Windscreen washer water bottle changed from black to clear (Late 04)
Green indicator arrows changed from green to yellow/green colour within dash
2005
Starter Motor Changed
Sunroof model added
Lightning Yellow removed
Flick key provided as standard
Limited Edition RX-8s available in Ebony Black (ie. Cherry/Coca-Cola colour) and Titanium Gr
2006
Changes to leather seats
Snowflake White Pearl added
Galaxy Grey replaces Titanium Grey
Stormy Blue added
Phantom Blue replaces Nordic Green?
2007
Reduction of Power by 7kw
3rd Oil Seal added*
change to side seals*
Lightning Yellow removed
2008
A longer list which is growing by the day...
Last edited by enforcer; 01-15-2008 at 03:02 AM. Reason: List updated