Mazda Electric van with Rotary Power
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Mazda Electric van with Rotary Power
See this article on a new Mazda Powerplant that is all electric with a Rotary Engine to generate electricity - have a prototype in a MPV, but could be used in a "Volt" type car. Cooollll!
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/08/mazda-building.html
http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/08/mazda-building.html
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Wow, this is the first I think any of us heard about this. I wonder if its the same base process as the volt, plug in with the rotary merely recharging the batteries or used to transport for over 40 miles.
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Brillo and I have talked about this use of the rotary for well over a year now and he even joked that the rotary could ultimately be saved by using it as a generator. Could be.
Here's some food for thought. The 16X is supposedly 20% more efficient than the Renesis while also being around 20% larger. Now take that new efficient combustion chamber geometry and apply it to a smaller engine for use as a generator. The Volt engine is going to be 70 hp. If you made a small 70 hp rotary and the efficiency was the same, we are now only talking about a half liter engine or so. Tune it to run efficiently at one rpm and give it the ultimate flex fuel capability and suddenly you've got a nice little package. It would be very small, wouldn't need a complex intake or exhaust and if built out of aluminum would be very light. It would be the smallest generator out there for it's power level. I think it could work nicely. Now if they could just get off the whole hydrogen kick...
Here's some food for thought. The 16X is supposedly 20% more efficient than the Renesis while also being around 20% larger. Now take that new efficient combustion chamber geometry and apply it to a smaller engine for use as a generator. The Volt engine is going to be 70 hp. If you made a small 70 hp rotary and the efficiency was the same, we are now only talking about a half liter engine or so. Tune it to run efficiently at one rpm and give it the ultimate flex fuel capability and suddenly you've got a nice little package. It would be very small, wouldn't need a complex intake or exhaust and if built out of aluminum would be very light. It would be the smallest generator out there for it's power level. I think it could work nicely. Now if they could just get off the whole hydrogen kick...
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I think a rotary generator for an electric car would have an advantage over current piston engine-based/electric designs as most gas-electric hybrids have much heavier drivetrains (from all the additional hardware) than traditional drivetrains, that reduce the realized fuel economy benefits.
A rotary-electric, should be able to produce a drivetrain that has the same gas efficiencies (with the latest rotary advances) with much reduced weight - allowing better realization of the potential fuel savings and more "Zoom Zoom" da boot.
Should be interesting to see how and when Mazda decides to utilize this powertrain.
A rotary-electric, should be able to produce a drivetrain that has the same gas efficiencies (with the latest rotary advances) with much reduced weight - allowing better realization of the potential fuel savings and more "Zoom Zoom" da boot.
Should be interesting to see how and when Mazda decides to utilize this powertrain.
#5
the car already exists.
it's the mazda5 HRE without the hydrogen part (tank-Injectors-electronics)
i dont'know why Mazda dont' have talked before of this possibilities of its hybrid powertrain....
it's the mazda5 HRE without the hydrogen part (tank-Injectors-electronics)
i dont'know why Mazda dont' have talked before of this possibilities of its hybrid powertrain....
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It has always been the Mazda 5/Premacy HRE. It was approved in June for public road testing.
http://www.mazda.com/publicity/relea...06/080620.html
http://www.mazda.com/publicity/relea...06/080620.html
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