rotary crazy

thats how mazdaspeed use to work you had to order the car at the dealer, there were no production runs of mazdaspeed cars excep for the 15 anniversary if memory serves right

zoom44

Welcome Danica be seeing you at 7stock i hope since you are the contact for events communication. its good they got jeremy some help. now if they would only open up a little more about the unloading of the ship....

Sapphonica

My little birdie tells me that Mazda management is seriously considering stopping production of the RX-8. Maybe 2007 is the last year. Of course, being pig-headed and all, they are also mandating that the Kabura (which definitely will be produced) be able to accomodate a rotary. It's not yet for sure that the Kabura will be a rotary...they just want to keep that option open. Hopfully they'll put a turbo 4 in it instead!

BaronVonBigmeat

Yeah but it would be nice if you could get the whole MS suspension package as a factory-installed option that you just check off. I understand the difficulties in making a turbo rotary pass emissions, but a suspension option would be nice. The FD had one I think, the R1 package or something?

CarAndDriver

It'd be nice if Mazda kept development up on the rotary, but at the minimum I hope they will keep the RX line alive and respectable.

Tirminyl

They are. They have reported several times the the Rotary is getting their attention, the progress they have made with new developments, and how the Rotary is part of their history and will not go anywhere.

rotary crazy

I just dont get why people keep sayn that the rx-8 its going to die, its selling steady at 1000+ cars world wide, the platform its share by another car maybe 2 in a few month, it meeds all emisions standars, and it is one of the most succesfull rotary cars ever made in terms of sales, so why? because of the fd? THERES NO COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO, COMPLETELY DIFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES!

Jedi54

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Nice find Charlie!

longfury

I think this is the most plausible thing to happen. I would expect a MX-3(or 6) announcment at LA or Detroit. With a RX-3(or 6 or 7) later. Both would be Kubura based.

Razz1

They already have a SC RX-8. We've seen it before.

If they wait till 2008 then most will have their 8's paid off and be ready to buy the new SC version.

rxtreme

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I think it would be awesome if Mazda took the RP AxialFlow supercharger and helped Paul fine tune it for practical mass production. He's been working on it for years to make it about as perfect as it can be and performed more R&D than most other aftermarket systems. It should function with the most minimal of additional requirements and it would be as unique as the rotary and RX-8 itself.

Come on, Mazda, if you're reading this help Paul out!

rotary crazy

give mazda a year to show they solved the engine recall isue and then we will see a few new rotary models

ASH8

I Hope your right RC..

Unless Mazda throws the rotary in the Kabura (which may be their intention as a 2.0 litre 4 banger to me seems a bit of a smoke screen), I think the only rotary model to continue will be the RX-8 at least to 2010.

They have a 2.0 litre MX-5, now also a Roadster Coupe (PRHT What a lame name for the US).

Why another 2 door coupe (Kabura) with the same engine?

Renesis_8

lightweight rotary rocket. = kabura.. man about time to get back on topic...

Its a "Mazda Europe VP of Marketing hints at MPS/Mazdaspeed RX-8" thread, dont turn it into a "I think mazda will discontinue the RX-8" thread.

its like the total opposite lol...
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zoom44

people dont view the mx-5 or the prht variant as an actual coupe. what mazda is looking at is an entry level coupe that will square up against the scion tc and chevy cobalt and others of that ilk.

Japan8

^ But be RWD instead of FWD.

ASH8

As far as I know...the rest of the world don't have a Chevy Cobalt, or Scion (Toyota) TC, the only "cheap" 2 door coupes here are Korean..Mazda don't square up with those...well not here.

I thought an MX-5 Roadster Coupe (called this outside of the US) is a "Coupe",
because it does not have a solid fixed roof..it's not a coupe then.

I am still not sure about this Kabura... makes it three 2 door vehicles in their line up with 2.0 litre 4?
IMO there still could be a surprise with the Kabura, its not the first time for Mazda to spring a surprise...

zoom44

there is only one 2door now- MX-5. an entry level coupe will be the 2nd

rotary crazy

I dont see anything wrong with having 2 or 3 coupes as long as they are for diferent segments

Renesis_8

Are there any light weight cheap RWD coupes on the market right now? Can anyone name any? From the concept Kabura, it comes with a 2.0L engine and its 3+1 seats configuration. Do you think Mazda would make it into a rotary engined 2 seater? That'd be quite a suprise. Mazda seems to like introducing cars that fills in the missing segment on the market.

Btw rotarycrazy, did your RX-8 arrive yet? =d
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ASH8

Got this price list yesterday from Mazda Australia, cars went up $100 on average from 1st October..
So adding another 2 door vehicle Kabura (making 3) that are "coupe" in design...where would you think it could slot in at an entry level..

These are our Recommended retail prices, Dealers can't charge more for low supply or popularity...

Mazda 3 Maxx Sport Sedan (manual) $27,500
Mazda 3 Sedan SP23 (2.3litre)............32,600
Mazda 3 MPS.......................................43,690
MX-5 Soft Top......................................42,870
MX-5 Roadster Coupe..........................47,660

I somehow think that if the Kabura (MX-?) has a 2 litres donk, in Australia a top of the range model would retail for about $35-38 K.

Renesis_8

I dont know how much the Aust dollars converts to. But think the Kabura should fall below the price of the MPS3, and slight above a fully loaded Mazda3. Simply because the car is smaller, more platform + engine sharing (for 2.0L and even a rotary).
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ASH8

I agree It could be between 33 and 35K,I don't think we will see the 3+1 seating configuration, would all depend on US, Europe and Australian design rules, quite often concept designs fail the test when put into "saleable" models.

Add about another 10k "if" it's born with a Rotary!

rotary crazy

$18,000 us dollars $24,000 fully loaded

longfury

This is the range it needs to be priced at to be sucessful. It would eat into the FWD hot hatch/coupe market big time.

I would buy one fast(read preorder).