zoom44

dude ask dmp if a bad cat always causes a cel. it doesnt.

zoom44

i of course wouldnt mind the PDS sitting in my lap at least its smaller than the wds. besides its got back seats too you know

KYLiquid

Yeah, i didnt include everything that has been checked/serviced but its been quite a bit of stuff :

Fuel System : replaced fuel pump, replaced fuel filter, replaced fuel pump wiring harness, replaced fuel injector wiring harness, checked injectors, checked intake manifold/intake valves, checked throtle body, checked TPS, check the TPS under the trotle pedal, replaced coil packs, replaced spark plugs/wires, replace motor, checked o2 sensors, visual check of cat, replaced muffler (from the cat back) replaced bumper trim, checked transmission/differential, checked vacuum lines, checked the ECU, run various diagnostics on the different systems of the car, run compression checks, lots of "visual inpections".....ect.

That is what the dealer says they have done, some of it has been put on invoices, some of it is just what they say they did. I have seen some of the used parts from the car.

3MTA3

Oh, damn, this is one depressing thread. I'm happy we didn't do any of the engine mods yet.

We did have to replace our battery this spring, it croaked.

KYLiquid

im not saying just throwing a CEL.

The car will drive fine for say 2 tanks of gas (just over 500 miles)....by "fine" i mean has good power/response, gets good miliage, will hit rev limiter on comand in 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears, as well as neutral. no CELs, no problems what so ever.

I would think a failing or failed cat would produce some signifigant driving problems all or most of the time.

Clavius

Through reading this thread I kept on hearing R.E.M.'s "End of the World" song in my head.

When the recall comes out I'll be dropping my car off and part of me will hope for a new engine though it will be a small part. I got mine used so the gods only know if it was broken in properly. I'm just gonna wait till its released to the dealers officaly though I will make a quick comment about it when I go in to get my visor replaced and um this mythical "Headlight Restoration Kit" done to my car.

I've only once experinced loss of power in VT after about 5 hours of spirited driving after shifting into 4th (04' A/T) rev's and speed fell slowly. But my A/C was on so I chaulked it up to that.

Atleast Mazda is stepping up about this known issue, sure our lil find thanks to Zoom44 about the surveys might of sped up this recall but I dont believe Mazda would just up and say "I know we'll shut them up by replacing their engines!" on a whim. I'd assume 6 months to a year of thought went into this and you know Ford had a say in this to.

Hmm.. maybe if I need a new engine I can convince them to give me a Shelby engine hehe j/k.

zoom44

they've been working on this since last spring/summer the video posting has nothing to do with the timing

Grizzly8

My cat failed at 56,00km NO time was their any warning signs no driving problems in fact the car ran at its best 2 weeks prior to it being totally burnt out .

Check your ignition coils one may be faulty .

Michael

Michael

So if they're running diagnostics - will this be via an under-dash access port or will they need to screw around under the hood?

El Kabong

So why aren't the same problems occurring in Australia and Malaysia, which are both pretty hot places, no? Seems like Australia would be a torture test ground for RX-8's, maybe.

-Kabong

vegas RX8

Zoom44 - Holy crap! Does my 8 still stand a chance to be fixed then? I hope so. Most likely mine will be going for its 4th engine in a month (check the "Who belongs to the new engine club post" in the Issues & Problems). I officially first reported the issue w/ my engine back in May of '05 to the dealership here in Vegas. I'm kind of optimistic that Mazda is stepping up but also kind of agree w/ Ike that they are just trying to patch things up as best as they can. I'll keep on keeping my fingers crossed.

vegas.

ajg

Yeah, I know, what a tired subject...

But I've been using synthetic oil since after break-in until last change
(mostly mobil 1, some readline, tried GC one change). Last change - on
the advice of oil-expert Terry Dyson - I switched to regular havoline 5w20
(got a couple of oil analyses from blackstone prior to this, which
were a bit mixed.)

Well, it's been 1200 miles on the havoline so far but one thing is
beginning to seem clear - I am using less oil. I usually use about
2 to 2.5 qt between changes (@4K miles) - yeah I know its a lot, but
it's been like that since the start - now I can see the level has dropped
a bit on the dipstick, but really rather little. No point in adding more, it's
still basically full. But I've _never_ driven 1000 miles before or even close
without a large, obvious, decline in level that requires a top up.

I'm curious to see whether this continues, maybe it is just a random thing
(its only 1200 miles after all, but on the other hand it seems a pretty
dramatic change given what I am used to). But if it's real, I wonder if there's any
explanation and it's possibly relevent to this thread.

(And yes, driving conditions, driving style, freeway vs highway, are
all essentially constant).

BoosTED

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They will be replacing with the Mazdaspeed 6 engine including a bigger stock turbo for their flagship car.

Agree this has been somewhat of a depressing speculation thread.

zenmoused

You know, I would prolly have my car lemon lawed if I had to have the engine replaced more than once. I think having the dealer monkey around in there that much is just asking for trouble.

swoope

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have a resonated mid pipe you can slap on... did you ever premix???? i know we talked about it..

beers

swerver

sorry to ever expand on this thread, but this is what I was thinking.......??? Granted my 8 is relatively new and hasn't caused me a moment of grief, but if I had the problems that others are facing, I'd lemon-law the thing in a heartbeat..................

Your suplemental warranty manual lists lemon law statutes by states. .............

BunnyGirl

I called my dealer today to see what they knew about it and they said they didn't think it applied to me, even though mine was one of the early build 06s (arrived in first shipment). Allegedly, if your 06 VIN ends with the last four digits under 1000 it applies to you. Again, they said they didn't know for sure since they don't have the information on what 06s are affected, if there actually were any. I don't know what this means. They said they would know either at the end of this week or early next week, but I will be on vacation so I won't be able to call them. The tech also said it was rumored that part of the problem was believed to be too thin oil recommended for use in the US market as opposed to other countries, which could cause less lubrication.

I'm not too worried about what this means for my car. I check and top my oil every week. I do get my revs up (although don't drive around with them high constantly) and redline one time per trip. The only time I have seemed to have an issue with "power loss" was the time I sat on I-205 for two hours almost exclusively idling although on occasion would move at about 5 mph for up to maybe 100 feet. The ambient temperature reading was 114 degrees. The car felt a little sluggish but the rpms didn't drop or do anything like what was described earlier in this thread. I attributed this to the high heat and wasn't overly worried about it happening. I thought possibly the car was starting to overheat by that time, as I saw numerous vehicles on the side of the road overheated that day. I did notice, though, that my oil was down half a quart after that day of driving. I had checked and topped it the day before and then drove that trip. My step-uncle told me I would want to check my oil again, so I did and it had dropped half a quart in that day.

RoXanneBlack8

last four of my vin be 1926.....o snap, i wanted a new engine anyway!

who cares about needin a new engine ITS FREEEEEE

fresh start, better yet take the new engine and sell it on ebay for the $ to get a 13b rew dumped in there or a 20b or an f20 or rb26dett or 2jzgte or a sr20det or a gasp....vq35de
hell while we r goin nuts, thro in a ej25 for all i care, aslong as it fits!

the list goes on stuffing whatever u want in there!




anyone else not see a negative here!

swoope

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just some help,

this explains a lot to the people in the usa.

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...18&postcount=4

i have know about this for a while, and i am one of the ones with the problem..

beers

pdxhak

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Who is preventing them from doing their job? It is my car and I have a right to know how it is being driven.

Astral

I think the techs want to quickly get the job done (the dealership is probably being paid fixed cost for the recall repairs) and is not interested in driving the ***** off your car. They will probably hold it at higher RPMs in 2nd gear on the highway or something like that, and will not be testing your tires' adhesion limits.

buzzardsluck

I can't believe this thing is 17 pages in one day!


Im waiting for Mazda to release the official "engine/carbon cleaning by water injection" test.

rotarWEEE!

Mine goes in for service tommorow (air bag light). Can't wait to talk to them about this. Had my 04 8 couple weeks no problems with engine yet. (knock on wood)

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...da_recall.html

Marietta 8

AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!

RX8Maine

So it sounds like regardless of where anyone stands on the synthetic/dino debate, the weight recommendation in the owner's manual is wrong. I have 6 qts of RP 5w20 sitting in the garage. I guess it'll be OK for winter, but next spring I'll move on to 5w30.