"Mazda expects to recall RX-8s"
08-24-2006, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
for some reason i cant find the "new flash halted" thread but read this link https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...&page=67&pp=15 for a page or 2
08-24-2006, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by expo1
Hey Otherside, just want to say thanks for hanging around here. I do appreciate someone from ' the otherside ' trying to help.
08-24-2006, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by puch96
Am I pretending too much? Why should I get a rebuilt engine when I paid for a new one. If I am in that situation, I'll fight it until somebody responds.
08-24-2006, 07:09 PM
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I think turbo owners should take it off for another reason. Nobody knows how the aftermarket ECU’s will react to this new re-flash so you could in theory take a well tuned turbo 8 into the dealership only to have them mess it up with a re-flash. Then Mazda would have a cut and dry case for your turbo mod causing the problem.
I think a better course of action is to get real friendly with the dealership and have them perform the vacuum test first. If you pass then you go right out the door with no other work performed on your 8. The flash that will come with this was not designed for turbo 8’s so until you know what it might do to your turbo 8 you should stay away from it. That is just my opinion.
I think a better course of action is to get real friendly with the dealership and have them perform the vacuum test first. If you pass then you go right out the door with no other work performed on your 8. The flash that will come with this was not designed for turbo 8’s so until you know what it might do to your turbo 8 you should stay away from it. That is just my opinion.
If possible and or feasible for the owner of a modified 8 then I'd take off any major mod. Less for them to complain about and lessen the likely hood your car is taken for a joy ride.
08-24-2006, 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by otherside
I can't take this roller coaster of emotions! Someone says something nice one post, next post I'm talking out my sphincter. (yes, sphincter). But thats ok, cause I really dont care.......damn mulligans...
08-24-2006, 07:13 PM
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Well... I just don't know what to think anymore. I'm sorry for what I'm about to say, but I think that the Rx8 is not really worth our money. There have been nothing but problems. I know this forum is probably not the place to start complaining about this car, but let's face it. If all of you will take the love for the Rx8 and emotions aside (I do love this car also), you can realize that Mazda was not ready to mass produce this vehicle due to a LOT of technical deficiencies with the "re-birth" of the rotary engine (RENESIS). No car in 2006 should have to go through all this trouble. And now it is costing Mazda a lot of money to correct the problem that should never had happened. The RX8 was not ready yet.
What Mazda should have done is produce a very small quantity of "prototype" or "testing" vehicles and test them, and continue to test them to find all the bugs and fix them. After all the fixes (or at least most of them), then and only then Mazda should consider going into production with this car. What they had created is a bad reputation for all rotaries and possibly Mazda as a company as well.
Well, I'll shut up now..... I'm sorry if I had offended somebody, but it was truly not my intention. I am just upsed at all this. Maybe I should just have a couple of shots and enjoy my car to it's fullest while it lasts.
What Mazda should have done is produce a very small quantity of "prototype" or "testing" vehicles and test them, and continue to test them to find all the bugs and fix them. After all the fixes (or at least most of them), then and only then Mazda should consider going into production with this car. What they had created is a bad reputation for all rotaries and possibly Mazda as a company as well.
Well, I'll shut up now..... I'm sorry if I had offended somebody, but it was truly not my intention. I am just upsed at all this. Maybe I should just have a couple of shots and enjoy my car to it's fullest while it lasts.
08-24-2006, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Clavius
Um.. Both Otherside and Zoom are snapping.. they need beers!
08-24-2006, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
what's worse new guy is i think the reason i cant find it is that i merged it with another thread. so i stumped myself!
08-24-2006, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by otherside
Wouldn't it be cool if there was a way for all of us to have a cyber beer together? I'd drink with any one of you!!!
Oh yeah my dealer is still clueless to this upcoming recall or even a flash.. can't wait to print up something offical and bring it in to them when its released. If he ask's "where did you find that" I'll just tell him "Same place you found the TsB for my headlights" (others wont get that joke but otherside will lol).
...dirty jerzee 
08-24-2006, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by zoom44
you will get afixed engine. your original engien will be fixed and given to someone else who has a broken one. basically
So, I could get an engine with 60,000 miles on it...or I could get an engine with say 5,000 on it. My car has 22k on it at the moment, would they give me the information on the engine that I received, for example, the mileage etc. And if it were the case that I received an engine with more miles then I have on my current engine shouldn't I be compensated for the deminished value of my car from receiving this "new" engine?
08-24-2006, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by expo1
How about all recall threads get closed till letters get sent. Posts like the one above are just plain ridiculous.
There isn't any real news on the subject and most dealers know less than us.
There isn't any real news on the subject and most dealers know less than us.
Its rediculous that this is a cumulative effect, and that if they dont catch something now, doesnt mean it wont happen later.
Its rediculous that the resale of the car will drop by $$$$.
Not sure how much cash you have........
But sorry, everyone has a right to be worried about this.
08-24-2006, 08:19 PM
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woz if the engine had to be replaced , any parts that had to be replaced would be with brand new pieces during the reman process. hell its possible you could get a whole brand new engine. but thisis the stuff we dont have absolute confirmation on yet. give it a little time for these thing sto "shake out"
08-24-2006, 08:28 PM
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This thread is a pisser. Did you know that with every new engine you will get this complementary Rotor Table??
08-24-2006, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BunnyGirl
That's actually a pretty cool table. I don't think I have ever seen a dining table that shape before. Good find!!!
08-24-2006, 08:40 PM
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If anyone is interested, the 2004 RX8 has been recalled 4 times previously, as follows (from Edmunds.com):
Nature of Defect:
1. AIR BAGS:FRONTAL Recall Number: 04V074000
Dates Manufactured: APR 2003 to JAN 2004
Number of Vehicles Affected: 29300
Date Owners Notified On: N/A
Vehicle: 2004 Mazda RX-8
Defect Description:
AS A RESULT OF AN NCAP TEST, CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES ARE BEING RECALLED FOR IMPROPERLY WIRED FRONT PASSENGER SEAT AIR BAGS.
Consequence of Defect:
THE AIR BAG WILL NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE PROTECTION WHEN THE VEHICLE IS INVOLVED IN A FRONTAL CRASH.
Corrective Action:
DEALERS WILL INSTALL A NEW WIRING HARNESS IN THE FRONT PASSENGER SEAT AIR BAG SYSTEM. THE RECALL BEGAN MARCH 5, 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT MAZDA AT 1-800-222-5500.
Nature of Defect:
2. POWER TRAIN:MANUAL TRANSMISSION Recall Number: 04V075000
Dates Manufactured: APR 2003 to AUG 2003
Number of Vehicles Affected: 12000
Date Owners Notified On: N/A
Vehicle: 2004 Mazda RX-8
Defect Description:
ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES WITH MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS, THE HEAT INSULATOR MAY BE CRACKED CAUSING ABNORMAL NOISE.
Consequence of Defect:
CONTINUED OPERATION OF THE VEHICLE CAN CAUSE THE INSULATOR TO COME OFF AND COULD POSE A HAZARD TO FOLLOWING VEHICLES.
Corrective Action:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE HEAT INSULATOR. THE RECALL BEGAN MARCH 5, 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT MAZDA AT 1-800-222-5500.
Nature of Defect:
3. ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING Recall Number: 05V317000
Dates Manufactured: FEB 2003 to JUN 2005
Number of Vehicles Affected: 56000
Date Owners Notified On: N/A
Vehicle: 2004 Mazda RX-8
Defect Description:
IF CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES ARE PARKED AND THE ENGINE IS OPERATED AT HIGH RPM'S FOR AN EXCESSIVE LENGTH OF TIME, SOME OF THE PARTS AROUND THE EXHAUST SYSTEM CAN MELT AND PRODUCE A VARIETY OF MALFUNCTIONS. PROBLEMS CAUSED BY THE EXCESSIVE HEAT BUILD-UP CAN RANGE FROM INOPERATIVE OXYGEN SENSOR, NEUTRAL SWITCH AND BACK UP LIGHTS, PROBLEMS WITH THE PARKING BRAKES, MALFUNCTIONS OF THE GAS GAUGE AND/OR POSSIBLE FUEL LEAKS RESULTING FROM HEAT DAMAGE TO THE FUEL TANK.
Consequence of Defect:
FUEL LEAKAGE, IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE, COULD RESULT IN A FIRE.
Corrective Action:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND REPLACE PARTS. THE RECALL BEGAN ON AUGUST 30, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT MAZDA AT 1-800-222-5500.
Nature of Defect:
4. SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT Recall Number: 05V325000
Dates Manufactured: N/A to N/A
Number of Vehicles Affected: 27800
Date Owners Notified On: N/A
Vehicle: 2004 Mazda RX-8
Defect Description:
ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES, DUE TO IMPROPER FORGING OF THE LOWER CONTROL ARM, CRACKS MAY OCCUR IN THE BALL JOINT SOCKET.
Consequence of Defect:
IN SEVERE DRIVING CONDITIONS, THE BALL MAY SEPARATE FROM THE BALL JOINT SOCKET AND A LOSS OF STEERING MAY OCCUR, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Corrective Action:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND, IF NECESSARY, REPLACE THE CONTROL ARMS. THE RECALL BEGAN ON AUGUST 30, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT MAZDA AT 1-800-222-5500.
Nature of Defect:
1. AIR BAGS:FRONTAL Recall Number: 04V074000
Dates Manufactured: APR 2003 to JAN 2004
Number of Vehicles Affected: 29300
Date Owners Notified On: N/A
Vehicle: 2004 Mazda RX-8
Defect Description:
AS A RESULT OF AN NCAP TEST, CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES ARE BEING RECALLED FOR IMPROPERLY WIRED FRONT PASSENGER SEAT AIR BAGS.
Consequence of Defect:
THE AIR BAG WILL NOT PROVIDE ADEQUATE PROTECTION WHEN THE VEHICLE IS INVOLVED IN A FRONTAL CRASH.
Corrective Action:
DEALERS WILL INSTALL A NEW WIRING HARNESS IN THE FRONT PASSENGER SEAT AIR BAG SYSTEM. THE RECALL BEGAN MARCH 5, 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT MAZDA AT 1-800-222-5500.
Nature of Defect:
2. POWER TRAIN:MANUAL TRANSMISSION Recall Number: 04V075000
Dates Manufactured: APR 2003 to AUG 2003
Number of Vehicles Affected: 12000
Date Owners Notified On: N/A
Vehicle: 2004 Mazda RX-8
Defect Description:
ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES WITH MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS, THE HEAT INSULATOR MAY BE CRACKED CAUSING ABNORMAL NOISE.
Consequence of Defect:
CONTINUED OPERATION OF THE VEHICLE CAN CAUSE THE INSULATOR TO COME OFF AND COULD POSE A HAZARD TO FOLLOWING VEHICLES.
Corrective Action:
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE HEAT INSULATOR. THE RECALL BEGAN MARCH 5, 2004. OWNERS SHOULD CONTACT MAZDA AT 1-800-222-5500.
Nature of Defect:
3. ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING Recall Number: 05V317000
Dates Manufactured: FEB 2003 to JUN 2005
Number of Vehicles Affected: 56000
Date Owners Notified On: N/A
Vehicle: 2004 Mazda RX-8
Defect Description:
IF CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES ARE PARKED AND THE ENGINE IS OPERATED AT HIGH RPM'S FOR AN EXCESSIVE LENGTH OF TIME, SOME OF THE PARTS AROUND THE EXHAUST SYSTEM CAN MELT AND PRODUCE A VARIETY OF MALFUNCTIONS. PROBLEMS CAUSED BY THE EXCESSIVE HEAT BUILD-UP CAN RANGE FROM INOPERATIVE OXYGEN SENSOR, NEUTRAL SWITCH AND BACK UP LIGHTS, PROBLEMS WITH THE PARKING BRAKES, MALFUNCTIONS OF THE GAS GAUGE AND/OR POSSIBLE FUEL LEAKS RESULTING FROM HEAT DAMAGE TO THE FUEL TANK.
Consequence of Defect:
FUEL LEAKAGE, IN THE PRESENCE OF AN IGNITION SOURCE, COULD RESULT IN A FIRE.
Corrective Action:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND REPLACE PARTS. THE RECALL BEGAN ON AUGUST 30, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT MAZDA AT 1-800-222-5500.
Nature of Defect:
4. SUSPENSION:FRONT:CONTROL ARM:LOWER BALL JOINT Recall Number: 05V325000
Dates Manufactured: N/A to N/A
Number of Vehicles Affected: 27800
Date Owners Notified On: N/A
Vehicle: 2004 Mazda RX-8
Defect Description:
ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES, DUE TO IMPROPER FORGING OF THE LOWER CONTROL ARM, CRACKS MAY OCCUR IN THE BALL JOINT SOCKET.
Consequence of Defect:
IN SEVERE DRIVING CONDITIONS, THE BALL MAY SEPARATE FROM THE BALL JOINT SOCKET AND A LOSS OF STEERING MAY OCCUR, WHICH COULD RESULT IN A CRASH.
Corrective Action:
DEALERS WILL INSPECT AND, IF NECESSARY, REPLACE THE CONTROL ARMS. THE RECALL BEGAN ON AUGUST 30, 2005. OWNERS MAY CONTACT MAZDA AT 1-800-222-5500.