Mazda to mass produce hydrogen rotaries
10-08-2008, 04:56 PM
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Mazda to mass produce hydrogen rotaries
Saw this on Autoblog Green. It should make Zoom44 happy. 
Even though hydrogen is a crappy fuel for an internal combustion engine, I still like the idea of more rotaries getting built. That just means a conversion to other fuels is in order for real performance!
http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/10...-in-about-5-y/
Even though hydrogen is a crappy fuel for an internal combustion engine, I still like the idea of more rotaries getting built. That just means a conversion to other fuels is in order for real performance!http://www.autobloggreen.com/2008/10...-in-about-5-y/
10-08-2008, 05:07 PM
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HEHEH i saw it this morning on autocar but didnt have time to post it.
they had an interesting photochop of the taiki with a more production like appearance
and yeah you are damn right it makes me happy
they had an interesting photochop of the taiki with a more production like appearance
and yeah you are damn right it makes me happy
10-08-2008, 09:51 PM
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now I just need this engine + hydrogen generator + solar panel = free gas, wouldnt care how low the mpgs were on hydro.
well not really still would need to buy everything first.
not saying its good or bad but this comment made me laugh:
well not really still would need to buy everything first.
not saying its good or bad but this comment made me laugh:
If the 12 MPG RX-8 ends up solving the energy crisis my irony meter will explode.
10-08-2008, 10:47 PM
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This whole hydrogen development from Mazda serves as a pretty good publicity move. They're pretty far ahead with hydrogen development compared to all other automakers. The Renesis hydrogen is definitely better than the hydrogen V12 from BMW. They could easily double the power by using PP housings to make 20B and 26B that run on H2.
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If hydrogen cars get out into the wild then stations will build hydrogen pumps. Beyond that the 'station' infrastructure is going the way of the dodo with electric cars and hybrid cars that will eventually be able to go a thousand miles w/o a fill up. Home fueling is going to become more and more common so shelf life on stations at every exit marker on every highway can't be much more than 20 years. If anything they will probably embrace another fuel source that can extend the need for infrastructure.
10-09-2008, 10:48 AM
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the idea for those california stations and the ones planned in Washington state is to have a "Hydrogen Highway" running from the border with Mexico into Vancouver BC in time for the Vancouver winter games. Its actually supposed to go right on to Whistler. However this wonderful "green" state i live in has somehow not signed on leaving a big gap in Oregon.
West Coast Hydrogen Highway
Wiki with note about Canadian Hydrogen Highway also talks about a proposed Hydrogen corridor between Detroit , Toronto and Montreal
Vancouver Olympics to Join Fuel Cell Bus Club with "Fleet" of fuel cell buses
Supposedly Oregon has signed on to the West Coast Hydrogen Highway- but our Govenor and and Reps in Salem are completely incapable of doing anything imaginative so i still doubt it'll happen here in time for the Olympics since relatively nothing has been done since this 2006 article
http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/blog2...rogen-economy/
West Coast Hydrogen Highway
Wiki with note about Canadian Hydrogen Highway also talks about a proposed Hydrogen corridor between Detroit , Toronto and Montreal
Vancouver Olympics to Join Fuel Cell Bus Club with "Fleet" of fuel cell buses
Supposedly Oregon has signed on to the West Coast Hydrogen Highway- but our Govenor and and Reps in Salem are completely incapable of doing anything imaginative so i still doubt it'll happen here in time for the Olympics since relatively nothing has been done since this 2006 article
http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/blog2...rogen-economy/
10-09-2008, 11:20 AM
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"A hydrogen filling infrastructure is generally assumed to be a pre-requisite for mass utilization of hydrogen cars. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_highway
It seems we need the egg first.
It seems we need the egg first.
Chicken meet Egg.
If hydrogen cars get out into the wild then stations will build hydrogen pumps. Beyond that the 'station' infrastructure is going the way of the dodo with electric cars and hybrid cars that will eventually be able to go a thousand miles w/o a fill up. Home fueling is going to become more and more common so shelf life on stations at every exit marker on every highway can't be much more than 20 years. If anything they will probably embrace another fuel source that can extend the need for infrastructure.
If hydrogen cars get out into the wild then stations will build hydrogen pumps. Beyond that the 'station' infrastructure is going the way of the dodo with electric cars and hybrid cars that will eventually be able to go a thousand miles w/o a fill up. Home fueling is going to become more and more common so shelf life on stations at every exit marker on every highway can't be much more than 20 years. If anything they will probably embrace another fuel source that can extend the need for infrastructure.
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The test mules they have in service now also run on gasoline too.
If mazda can make these cars run dual fuel then we can get the hydrogen economy rolling and get stations out, and not have to worry about always needing to be near a hydrogen filling station. We can also have a button on our dash that lets you flip the car between "fun" and "hippy"
If mazda can make these cars run dual fuel then we can get the hydrogen economy rolling and get stations out, and not have to worry about always needing to be near a hydrogen filling station. We can also have a button on our dash that lets you flip the car between "fun" and "hippy"
10-09-2008, 11:29 AM
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its neither. they have to be done at the same time. initially as its done right now the stations are a mix of built by the companies that make the vehicles or by the governmental/business ventures that by them or in some partnership.
as more vehicles get on the road there will be more demand and then regular gasoline filling stations will add a Pump that is actually a hydrogen reformer using natural gas.
there can and should be a tax incentive( that expires after some future date. 10 yrs? 15? ) to encourage the NG reformer pump. SO that NG vehicles (Pickens Plan!!) can fill up as well as hydrogen vehicles.
as more vehicles get on the road there will be more demand and then regular gasoline filling stations will add a Pump that is actually a hydrogen reformer using natural gas.
there can and should be a tax incentive( that expires after some future date. 10 yrs? 15? ) to encourage the NG reformer pump. SO that NG vehicles (Pickens Plan!!) can fill up as well as hydrogen vehicles.
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