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Old 10-02-2007 | 02:37 AM
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Next Rotary A 16 X

New rotary 16 x

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Next rotary to be A ...........16 X

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Old 10-02-2007 | 03:11 AM
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Great news!
Old 10-02-2007 | 03:18 AM
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the future will hold some interesting concepts..
Old 10-02-2007 | 03:29 AM
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Knowing that there'll be a 16 X Rotary makes me feel outdated
Old 10-02-2007 | 09:42 AM
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very interesting
Old 10-02-2007 | 06:41 PM
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Good news!
Old 10-02-2007 | 10:33 PM
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Would the larger "16X Tub" fit into an RX-8?
Old 10-02-2007 | 11:00 PM
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Sweet news! 16X FTW! f/i next
Old 10-02-2007 | 11:41 PM
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Would the larger "16X Tub" fit into an RX-8?
It always astounds me that people ask that, as if buying a new crate engine and installing in into your car would be somehow cheaper and/or easier than just buying the new model.
Old 10-02-2007 | 11:58 PM
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It always astounds me that people ask that, as if buying a new crate engine and installing in into your car would be somehow cheaper and/or easier than just buying the new model.
if they change the body styling it might make sense... or maybe if it fits in easier than a 20b... I dont see why it wouldnt fit seeing as a 20b fits. though the change in dimensions between renesis & 20b are a bit different than the change between renesis and 16x. Also, for those who might have just bought an 8, it might make more sense to invest in engine swap instead of getting out of a lease to get another new car. I guess time will tell.
Old 10-03-2007 | 04:57 AM
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The 16X is Wider in Diameter, so to answer my own question It probably will not mate onto the tranny's bell housing let alone engine mounting points...
Old 10-03-2007 | 09:41 AM
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Old 10-03-2007 | 10:33 AM
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Old 10-05-2007 | 11:59 PM
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Old 10-06-2007 | 12:43 AM
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nice find

it is in fact Renesis based, with side intake and exhaust, 6intake ports and 3 exhaust ports.

The fuel should be injected just before the apex passes over the DI injector. They changed the rotor dish too (unless its just reflection), the shape of the top side should help guide the fuel and concentrate it on the dish.

I thought they might position the DI injectors at around the 2 o'clock position, above the spark plugs, that way they could get more cooling as the fuel vapourizes more under (more) compression. Nonetheless they'll still get the cooling that results from vaporization (liquid to gas is endothermic).

However, it will be a PITA to make a peripheral intake and exhaust 16X now that they've completely redesigned the housing.
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Old 10-06-2007 | 06:57 AM
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Very interesting, while I wonder how the HP #'s will change over time...

700HP, 600HP, oh wait....no it's now 150HP....LOL

Just messing, I still love my RX8 while my next car will most likely be the new Camaro since I'd like a V8 before it's too late and gas prices go even higher.

Still, I can't wait to see what the next RX and Rotary engine end up looking like.
Old 10-07-2007 | 11:02 PM
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renesis 8 its my own opinion that leads me to disagree with ur point where it shoots the fuel. i dont think itll shoot the fuel as the first apex crosses past it. its my own guess it fires at the end of intake and just at compression starting. where one of the apex seals would be at the 6 o clock position and the other two would be the 930 ish and 230 ish position. im guessing itll fire right before it starts to compress the air.

just a guess, thats all. i have no proof of this being true....



only thing i got to ask tho is does anyone else see the green connectors on the 10 o clock position of the rotor housings? look like connectors for fuel injectors?

is it just me?
Old 10-07-2007 | 11:24 PM
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I do see the green and black connectors too. I have no idea what they're for, for direct injectors, they should have another high pressure fuel pump somewhere in the engine, but those are too small to be it.
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Old 10-08-2007 | 04:38 AM
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A Oz Member reliably inform me that the X means eXperimental...

So, in production it will possibly be called a 16A or C, I cant recall I think the FWD 13A in the R130 (early 70's) was a twin side seal unit (RG would know), but was a "long stroke" design type.

So my theory (guess) is C...

Any takers?
Old 10-08-2007 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by XDEEDUBBX
the future will hold some interesting concepts..
I agree
Old 10-08-2007 | 09:52 AM
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It appears to be both direct and indirect injection. The green injectors are in the intermediate housing where the primaries have been located for the past 25 years. The blue injectors are the direct units. These are in the exact same location as the hydrogen injectors on the hydrogen engine which makes sense if they want to easily convert an engine to use it later.
Old 10-08-2007 | 10:26 AM
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are the oil injectors in a different position?

I can't tell if the rotor housings and intermediate housing are the same width, fixing the center exhaust port issue. the engine looks shorter from the picture, but that could be just my eyes
Old 10-08-2007 | 10:29 AM
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this is all made to kill the flooding issue once and for all!and to make sure the low end power band will put your head into the headrest to enjoy the spirt of the true rx8 the way it should be!but i'm happy anyways.
Old 10-08-2007 | 10:34 AM
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The oil injectors look to be in the same location.
Old 10-08-2007 | 12:47 PM
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From the picture, the ports look larger, than the current engine. Also, since this would be an all new engine, wouldn't Mazda design the rear endplate to accept the current bell housing bolt pattern?


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