DailyDriver2k5

Looks like the 8 isn't going anywhere as many has thought.

Check this out.......

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...4/1041/CARNEWS


Sad to see the Supra will not be in the picture, but we will have the Lexus LF-A(500HP).Sure tuner companies will still be pleased with this beast ,as well as the GT-R. I am shock Nissan is milking the rededign for the 350Z, this is the longest any Z has gone without a redesign!

alfy28

so is the kabura type car a go or no go :P? just within the month i read it was a no go, now i see it is a go? lol any how good find daily

SOVINE

2010? Sweet, that is when my car payments are done.

zoom44

well the chart is askew. the cx-7 already is at the dealers. the cx-9 that it says will debut in 2008 will be at the dealers in 4-5 months- a year before they say. and my current understanding of the RX-8 redesign is it will be in 2008- real year 2008 for the 2009 model year. of course that could have changed and i not heard about it. 2008(for US 2009 MY) would be 5 years- right in line with the gameplan for the car. 2010 would be way too long in a car's lifecycle to even bother.

zoom44

alfy dont believe any "no go" on the kabura type car until you hear it from a Mazda executive.

saturn

Do I even believe this? Evo X doesn't come out until 2009 after all that hype? RX-8 goes 6 years before being redesigned?

saturn

That makes sense if the chart is askew. That would make the Evo X be 2008 (as expected).

mtrevino

Hmm.... there's a listing for a Mazda CX-5? Wha? Never heard of that before... anyone know anything?

alfy28

true, i just seen the possiablity :P

DrDiaboloco

The chart says "Model Years", and that may explain the discrepancy. For instance, I believe all CX-7's are considered to be 2007 models, even though they were in dealers in the middle of 2006.

I'm happy to see the M6 redesign for MY2008, which means it'll be in dealers in a little over a year. Hope to see a continuation of the manual-equipped sedan with, hopefully, a 3.5L engine that'll now more easily keep up with the competition.

CarAndDriver

I think its the new Tribute.

zoom44

well it didnt earlier if the CX-9 is to be a 2008 they cant sell any before the new year- which would be weird them sitting on the lots in december and not be allowed to sell them. maybe they will hold them until jan 1?!?

that M6 would have been here earlier if not for some engien issues- my understanding of the delay(besides the platform stretch making it slightly bigger inside than the fusion sized version of the platform is that instead of using the ford version of the 3.5 they are "Mazda-izing" it like they did with the 4cylinder. maybe even DI.

DrDiaboloco

My gf has decided to put off her vehicle purchase for a while, and this may play into her (our) hands. She really likes the 6 and the CX-7, and I suggested to her that she wait until the new 6 hits the lot before she makes a purchase. She really prefers cars to trucks (she's a good egg) and wants a manual (an even better egg), which still leaves a very short list of cars to choose from if you want something mid-sized with a big-engine option, and is an even SHORTER list if you don't have an unlimited budget (a 545i would be great, but....).

I just hope the new 6 is worth the wait.

Tirminyl

If not force her to get a MS6 :D

rotary crazy

I heard they where going to speed things up for the rx-8, not sure what it means but i am under the impresion that it was move fowerd a year

brillo

Mazda sunk some money into the RX8/Miata/Kabura platform, so I expect as they said, it to be around a while before a full redesign takes place. Hell, the FD was in existance from 1993 to 2002, thats a run if there ever was one. The miata was basically unchanged for almost as long (not counting the facelifts).

Lower volume cars don't get the makeover as fast for obvious reasons, they need time to recoup the costs. Besides, short of making it lighter weight (which could be done will more aluminum such as doors, subframe, and braces) I'm not sure how much stiffer or better handling you can get a car.

I expect some derivative of the RX8 platform to be in production for 10 years

rotary crazy

the change will not be 100%, only looks and power the platform its going to stay the same, the kabura type car will use the same platform and you can expect a 5 year production run for that car, so the chassis is going to be in use from 2003 to at least 2014 ( if the kabura goes into production in 2009).

Design1stCode2nd

Most research costs are usually recouped by using a platform in multiple applications. A 2 or 2+2 lightweight RWD coupe based of the RX8 would sell well and shouldn't compete two much with existing products. I'd bet a turbo for in a Kabura instead of a Rotary unles they can eek out some more power and better MPG. I'd love to see a 2500lb coupe with similar or better power than an 8.

alfy28

they wouldnt need to eek out more power for the rotary in a kabura if the car is light. and the mpg would be pretty good also, at least that is what i think.

DailyDriver2k5

Because Mazda isn't bringing out a new RX-8 till the '09/10 MY. IMO i think this is good for current 8 owners. No refresh,no updates except in color changes, and optional equipment meens our cars will still look the same as day one when they were introduced in the 04, meening that our cars will always reamain fresh and up to date. Not like Mazda did a bad job anyway with the styling, its rather timeless than timely like everything else on the road today.

If Mazda would just bump up the Hp in the 8, that would be the only thing i would like to see for this life span of the 8, but keep the design as is.

alfy28

agree 100% they just need to add more power for 8 rotary. as for the kabura with the current ren engine. i wuldnt think they need to put a turbo or what not in it, since i think it would be a lght car. (this is for the person talking about eek power )

rotary crazy

for us enthusiast a bump in hp is enought, but to the general public buyng and old desing is not going to work.

for sales to pick up theres got to be a refresh exterior

alfy28

now i understand, yah the 2010 8 should look different from the current. i miss read . i thougth he meant like from now til 2010 :P god im such a newb lol.

chikmag382

I don't see why everyone is complaining about the power in the 8. She makes 230 hp. Now if they lightened up the car itself by getting rid of the suicide doors that would atleast free up 100-200 lbs. making for some extra pull. Plus the vehicle does have 18 in. heavy rims which add to drivetrain power loss. Complaining about 230 hp out of a 1.3 L is just plain wrong

Tirminyl

I lol'd.