We didn't win
03-02-2004, 09:58 AM
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We didn't win
We didn't win the Road and Track Readers Choice Award, I just got my magazine...that dang Subie STI did
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03-02-2004, 12:20 PM
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A lot to be said for the STi. I think it's a bit similar to the 3rd Gen RX-7 - fast but daily living with it a bitch might be. You get great performance - but I chose the RX-8 for the style performance refinement and mostly for the rotary smoothness and (IMHO) legendary racing and daily-driver reliability. I'd never knock someone for getting the STi. BTW - I just got the new R&T April issue yesterday, and the STi won the reader's choice award over the 8 and a few other worthy competitors as well.
Affects me : zero.
Affects me : zero.
03-02-2004, 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by rx8daniel
A lot to be said for the STi. I think it's a bit similar to the 3rd Gen RX-7 - fast but daily living with it a bitch might be. You get great performance - but I chose the RX-8 for the style performance refinement and mostly for the rotary smoothness and (IMHO) legendary racing and daily-driver reliability. I'd never knock someone for getting the STi. BTW - I just got the new R&T April issue yesterday, and the STi won the reader's choice award over the 8 and a few other worthy competitors as well.
Affects me : zero.
A lot to be said for the STi. I think it's a bit similar to the 3rd Gen RX-7 - fast but daily living with it a bitch might be. You get great performance - but I chose the RX-8 for the style performance refinement and mostly for the rotary smoothness and (IMHO) legendary racing and daily-driver reliability. I'd never knock someone for getting the STi. BTW - I just got the new R&T April issue yesterday, and the STi won the reader's choice award over the 8 and a few other worthy competitors as well.
Affects me : zero.
03-02-2004, 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
The RX-8 has legendary racing ability and the STi doesn't, that statement boggles the mind even more than your first comments...
The RX-8 has legendary racing ability and the STi doesn't, that statement boggles the mind even more than your first comments...
I don't begrudge the STi the win - it's certinly a hell of a lot of bang for the buck - but I have to wonder how reliably any online survey represents the genuine readership of the sponsoring magazine these days. Do they really believe that the number of votes gleaned online reflects the choice of their readership rather than which brand has the widest network of online fans?
How many of the votes (for any of the finalists) does anyone truly believe were from actual readers vs folks who simply followed a "hey, go vote for our car" link on a forum or bulletin board?
03-02-2004, 04:33 PM
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Ike... yes the STI is more practical than the FD, offering all-weather performance as well as 4 doors.
But the penalty for "living with it" comes in the form of a harsh ride -- and to a much lesser extent, garish styling.
For some people, that's not a difficult trade-off to make.
For me, well, selling the harsh ride and styling to my wife is darn near impossible.
But the penalty for "living with it" comes in the form of a harsh ride -- and to a much lesser extent, garish styling.
For some people, that's not a difficult trade-off to make.
For me, well, selling the harsh ride and styling to my wife is darn near impossible.
03-02-2004, 06:19 PM
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Similar to the FD??? I don't get that one at all, the STi is rather reliable and makes for a good daily driver that can be driven all year around. The RX-8 has legendary racing ability and the STi doesn't, that statement boggles the mind even more than your first comments...
About 11k miles total, 3 open track sessions, countless autox events, and a few drag strip runs. Never got me stranded, never broke down.
Anyway, the RX-8 doesn't have legendary racing record the RX-7 does. As well as the STI with its WRC Imprezas, various STI versions, etc.
What's funny is that I voted for the RX-8 back in Nov and now I had an STI after the 7 got stolen, and still the STI won the vote.
03-02-2004, 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by IkeWRX
Similar to the FD??? I don't get that one at all, the STi is rather reliable and makes for a good daily driver that can be driven all year around. The RX-8 has legendary racing ability and the STi doesn't, that statement boggles the mind even more than your first comments...
Similar to the FD??? I don't get that one at all, the STi is rather reliable and makes for a good daily driver that can be driven all year around. The RX-8 has legendary racing ability and the STi doesn't, that statement boggles the mind even more than your first comments...
03-02-2004, 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by zthang
and I don't see how the RX-8 has more "legendary racing" than the Sti unless you don't consider WRC racing.
and I don't see how the RX-8 has more "legendary racing" than the Sti unless you don't consider WRC racing.
03-02-2004, 08:40 PM
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Originally posted by racerdave
Ike... yes the STI is more practical than the FD, offering all-weather performance as well as 4 doors.
But the penalty for "living with it" comes in the form of a harsh ride -- and to a much lesser extent, garish styling.
For some people, that's not a difficult trade-off to make.
For me, well, selling the harsh ride and styling to my wife is darn near impossible.
Ike... yes the STI is more practical than the FD, offering all-weather performance as well as 4 doors.
But the penalty for "living with it" comes in the form of a harsh ride -- and to a much lesser extent, garish styling.
For some people, that's not a difficult trade-off to make.
For me, well, selling the harsh ride and styling to my wife is darn near impossible.
i wouldn't say it's that stiff.
the rx8 would definitely be more nimble.
but the sti's handling overall is probably better and more capable.
it is far more practical: 4 dr., 5 seater, big trunk, awd, etc.
that said, i prefer the rx8's styling better.
03-02-2004, 09:02 PM
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You really didn't expect the RX-8 to win now did ya? I mean performance numbers are always a big part, along with cost. Look at the bigger picture, the Porsche lost to the STI as well. The RX-8 was in great company, there were no Toyota, Acura or Hondas there, so bravo to Mazda and the other three that were chosen as well.
03-02-2004, 09:22 PM
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It is a reader's choice award... not much different than a popularity contest... it is meaningless. I'd say more readers owned WRXs than the other cars.
All of the finalists were winners, five of the most awesome cars of the year. (I think the GT3 should have won...... :P)
All of the finalists were winners, five of the most awesome cars of the year. (I think the GT3 should have won...... :P)
03-02-2004, 09:38 PM
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Jay Leno had good nothing but good things to say about the 8. Coming from a "car guy" like him, that's good praise.
He also loved the STI.
The only one of the finalists I couldn't grasp was the 5-series. I don't care how good it is, it's not in the same class as the rest of the cars. It's a luxury sports sedan... the only 1 in that test.
Seemed out of place.
And Chris Bangle is a cracksmoker.
He also loved the STI.
The only one of the finalists I couldn't grasp was the 5-series. I don't care how good it is, it's not in the same class as the rest of the cars. It's a luxury sports sedan... the only 1 in that test.
Seemed out of place.
And Chris Bangle is a cracksmoker.
03-02-2004, 10:30 PM
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nah, all of them are good ones, do we have doubt about that? :D so, it depends on owner's choice... appearently this poll is directed to majority. sounds like performance and numbers are they major concern to them, instead of the overall package.
btw, does the STI has passengers air bag equipped?
btw, does the STI has passengers air bag equipped?
03-02-2004, 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by cmb
actually, the sti's suspension, though uprated and stiffer, is designed for good suspension travel...much like the wrx.
i wouldn't say it's that stiff.
the rx8 would definitely be more nimble.
but the sti's handling overall is probably better and more capable.
it is far more practical: 4 dr., 5 seater, big trunk, awd, etc.
that said, i prefer the rx8's styling better.
actually, the sti's suspension, though uprated and stiffer, is designed for good suspension travel...much like the wrx.
i wouldn't say it's that stiff.
the rx8 would definitely be more nimble.
but the sti's handling overall is probably better and more capable.
it is far more practical: 4 dr., 5 seater, big trunk, awd, etc.
that said, i prefer the rx8's styling better.
03-03-2004, 01:13 AM
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Just a little video to bid farewell to a wonderful winter and my snowtires. Give some props on the killer soundtrack yo!
http://ps.usa.net/~dgiadone/vids/stisnow.wmv
http://ps.usa.net/~dgiadone/vids/stisnow.wmv
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RX-8 has legendary racing ability and the STi doesn't, that statement boggles the mind even more than your first comments...
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