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Old 11-17-2008 | 01:58 PM
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Its true , cali is kind of well known for chrome rims , big 20 inch etc. This holds true , not to sound racist , because of the mexican population/ Black community with the escalades and chrome spinners. Not to sound rude to u zumn but you might not feel the handling differences due to you not in the track , on the street a camry can feel like it handles good. You're not pushing the handling to the limits , you will not feel the difference , period. Its a fact that going over 18 inch will affect handling tremendously. Even 18's are considered border line to big and that still DOES affect handling , but like you i enjoy bigger rims as well for appearance. I am planning to go turbo and when i do the bigger wheel size will help , not to mention the wide *** rims . I dont dig chrome though :p
Old 11-17-2008 | 03:48 PM
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Talking !!!!!!!!!!!

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Its true , cali is kind of well known for chrome rims , .......... zumn but you might not feel the handling differences due to you not in the track , ................. You're not pushing the handling to the limits , you will not feel the difference , period. ......................Its a fact that going over 18 inch will affect handling tremendously. Even 18's are considered border line to big and that still DOES affect handling ,....................... I dont dig chrome though :p
I dont plan on making my car a track car or taking it auto cross.....however i do still plan getting strut bars,sways,cross bars, springs&shocks so when i do wanna F around


Anything over 18? even 18 is pushing it? i dont think so buddy! U may not know but....the Rx8 R3 has 19" rims 225/40!!! Explain why Mazda did that?? I went to the dealer earlier for some warranty work.......New visor, Order new engine mounts (yay!!!!), Reflash PC., Top off oil.... Pictures in the post below.....


Its cool chrome is not for everyone....thanks for the input!!
Old 11-17-2008 | 03:50 PM
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Old 11-17-2008 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ZumnRx8
I dont plan on making my car a track car or taking it auto cross.....however i do still plan getting strut bars,sways,cross bars, springs&shocks so when i do wanna F around


Anything over 18? even 18 is pushing it? i dont think so buddy! U may not know but....the Rx8 R3 has 19" rims 225/40!!! Explain why Mazda did that?? I went to the dealer earlier for some warranty work.......New visor, Order new engine mounts (yay!!!!), Reflash PC., Top off oil.... Pictures in the post below.....


Its cool chrome is not for everyone....thanks for the input!!
And explain to me why critiques such as motor trend state that the R3's handling suffers from its wheel/tire combo
Old 11-17-2008 | 04:08 PM
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Veilside FTMFW! i would have bought that if it were in my color. Congrats on your purchase. im going for the d1gt kit.
Old 11-17-2008 | 04:39 PM
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Veilside FTMFW! i would have bought that if it were in my color. Congrats on your purchase. im going for the d1gt kit.
the D1gt kit looks good on GG or TI G with the Veilside CF hood.....someone here has one!!!
Old 11-17-2008 | 04:42 PM
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And explain to me why critiques such as motor trend state that the R3's handling suffers from its wheel/tire combo
Explain to me why Edmunds.com states "the performance spaciousness, 9k redline, and the handling of the RX8 together easily puts it over the 350z as a sports car."

if u buy a R3 with the 19" wheels....ill buy them off u since u wont like them!
Old 11-17-2008 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ZumnRx8
Explain to me why Edmunds.com states "the performance spaciousness, 9k redline, and the handling of the RX8 together easily puts it over the 350z as a sports car."

if u buy a R3 with the 19" wheels....ill buy them off u since u wont like them!
well i went over to edmunds.com. i didnt see what your posted. and i couldnt find a R3 review. waht i seen was

http://www.edmunds.com/mazda/rx8/2009/review.html



That last point is truly the 2009 Mazda RX-8's Achilles' heel. We could probably live with the rotary's less-than-stellar straight-line performance, given the fun derived from the RX-8's superb handling, but the fuel economy and dearth of low-end power are hard to reconcile. The BMW 128i, Nissan 350Z and Mustang GT provide better performance and/or fuel economy for a similar price. Of course, none of those cars provide the practical four-door coupe body style or that one-of-a-kind styling inside and out. In other words, if the RX-8's your type of weird, there's no other choice.
Old 11-17-2008 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by alfy28
well i went over to edmunds.com. i didnt see what your posted. and i couldnt find a R3 review. waht i seen was

http://www.edmunds.com/mazda/rx8/2009/review.html



That last point is truly the 2009 Mazda RX-8's Achilles' heel. We could probably live with the rotary's less-than-stellar straight-line performance, given the fun derived from the RX-8's superb handling, but the fuel economy and dearth of low-end power are hard to reconcile. The BMW 128i, Nissan 350Z and Mustang GT provide better performance and/or fuel economy for a similar price. Of course, none of those cars provide the practical four-door coupe body style or that one-of-a-kind styling inside and out. In other words, if the RX-8's your type of weird, there's no other choice.
the quote i saw from edmunds was from the catalog at the Mazda Dealer...when i go back to get my engine mounts replaced in 3-5 days........ill scan it and insert it here!!!!
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Originally Posted by ZumnRx8
the quote i saw from edmunds was from the catalog at the Mazda Dealer...when i go back to get my engine mounts replaced in 3-5 days........ill scan it and insert it here!!!!
my bad, i took your quote "Explain to me why Edmunds.com " as in teh site. but yah when you get a chance scann it for us. cant wait to see it
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Old 11-17-2008 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ZumnRx8
trust me>.....no handling has been sacrificed...the diameter of the wheel + tire is the same as 18" with 45 tire...yeah the 20 weighs more but thats why im going to rays!!...thanks anyways....
Have you asked any automotive engineer for their opinion as to whether handling has been sacrificed? There are a few on this board. Have you also noticed that no racing RX-8s run anything bigger than 18s and generally people will downsize to 17s if rules and brake clearance allows it? Finally, have you considered that marketing had something to do with Mazda choosing 19" wheels for the R3?
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do me a favor and weigh those bad boys. forget handling being sacrificed. unsprung weight has been slain looooong ago
Old 11-18-2008 | 11:11 AM
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failside..
QFT!!!!
Old 11-18-2008 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by alfy28
my bad, i took your quote "Explain to me why Edmunds.com " as in teh site. but yah when you get a chance scann it for us. cant wait to see it
yeah i understand. yeah im going to scan it at put it as my sig for like 1 week to get the word around. ill do it when i go back in 2-5 days to get my engine mounts replaced, they special ordered them.
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do me a favor and weigh those bad boys. forget handling being sacrificed. unsprung weight has been slain looooong ago
hahhaha, Yeah most people wanna know, and i bet when i do, its not gonna be as much as people expected. The rims are twin 5 spoke so i doubt it carries much weight to others that are really considered dubs! and look way way more solid and heavy like tank wheels!
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They're 27.5 pounds.
Old 11-18-2008 | 11:18 PM
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They're 27.5 pounds.
Wow 27.5LBS, those will effect handling. There are only 2 reasons to go with bigger wheels, 1-looks, 2-if you NEED bigger brakes.
Old 11-19-2008 | 02:33 AM
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this thread is interesting....
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Wow 27.5LBS, those will effect handling. There are only 2 reasons to go with bigger wheels, 1-looks, 2-if you NEED bigger brakes.
ill admit that these bigger rims/ more weight have worn out my brakes 1/4 time faster than stock wheels...but then again i can tailgate and drive stupid sometimes and that may also be it. However the good in this is that a tire for a 20 is the same as for my stock 18 and im talking Nitto Neo Gens which i have now. as far as 20;s on my ride i havent got any complains in person, only on here, in person other import owners just tell me the same thing, "you should dump ur car then it would look sick, because right now it kinda rides high for an import".
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Some new pics before the Veilside...and by the way i have no corners!..the pic taken from the rear looks good, however imagine it with the rear Veilside lip and it looks like it rides lower, so thats kinda what im going for, and thats why i need side skirts, give the lowered look without having to worrying about not making it over speed bumps or up some driveways at some malls or falling into potholes or feeling way too bouncy, or having to get out of ur car at a drive thru to get ur food because ur car is too low. Any opinions on this?


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Originally Posted by ZumnRx8
ill admit that these bigger rims/ more weight have worn out my brakes 1/4 time faster than stock wheels...but then again i can tailgate and drive stupid sometimes and that may also be it. However the good in this is that a tire for a 20 is the same as for my stock 18 and im talking Nitto Neo Gens which i have now. as far as 20;s on my ride i havent got any complains in person, only on here, in person other import owners just tell me the same thing, "you should dump ur car then it would look sick, because right now it kinda rides high for an import".
Hey i know i have said some bad things about your judgment. but glad you are still going with what you feel is best for you. so i give you props for sweeping the ppl who disagree with you (ppl like me) and still do what you feel is right. takes alot to be different, even though alot of ppl (like my self) would disagree.

I guess i am just a person who only does things to a car that helps it and i am more consertative. but since you are doing this for show, then my opinion doenst matter. so keep up the good work
Old 11-19-2008 | 10:18 AM
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Yea, I agree with Alfy on this one, I dont ever think Ive seen an 8 like Zumns .
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Originally Posted by Renesis07
Yea, I agree with Alfy on this one, I dont ever think Ive seen an 8 like Zumns .
lord knows i have...


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