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Old 02-05-2009, 07:59 AM
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The daughter, not the mom right? I think he said it to the mother.....and she was really one. But...anyway, it caught me off guard and was hilarious.
thats why i love the show.. of course the plot is typically the same every episode. someone gets sick, do 3000 tests to find out what it is, greg has an epiphany while talking to someone else, solves the case. its all his dialogue that makes the show great.
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Dam! dude you know how many people are in Vegas sorry man had to :p
A little less than half that of Phoenix in both the cities proper and the entire metro areas.
Now, do you want to compare the actual BHR/MM markets of those towns? Probably not.
So, I'm not sure what you "had to", whatever that means.
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Do you have a map to show these markets?

Can you put it power point?

Mu ha ha................
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I could. I'm not sure what it would do for me, which is all that matters as far as I'm concerned in this conversation.
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this is so not a picture thread anymore.. haha
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That's it!!! I've figured it out. I know what is causing my manifolds to blow up.

It's the BHR Throttle Body Spacer!!!

If I didn't have it I wouldn't have blown up the manifolds.
I never blew up a manifold before I got the BHR Throttle Body Spacer. So that has to be it.
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That's it!!! I've figured it out. I know what is causing my manifolds to blow up.

It's the BHR Throttle Body Spacer!!!

If I didn't have it I wouldn't have blown up the manifolds.
I never blew up a manifold before I got the BHR Throttle Body Spacer. So that has to be it.
Exactly!
Then, you would be safely spraying that nitrous/gas mix directly into the atmosphere under the hood where it can't damage your manifold.
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
That's it!!! I've figured it out. I know what is causing my manifolds to blow up.

It's the BHR Throttle Body Spacer!!!

If I didn't have it I wouldn't have blown up the manifolds.
I never blew up a manifold before I got the BHR Throttle Body Spacer. So that has to be it.

Yes, the big secret I have been keeping to myself is that the best place to mount the nitrous nozzle is BEFORE the MAF sensor in terms of airflow. Much better mixing that way and the MAF sensor is completely oblivious to turbulence around it.
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OMG, Nitro BEFORE the Maf....
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I believe that's how dry nitrous shots work.. sprayed before the MAF.
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easy solution, and this is no BS.....a vaccume pressure switch....2 dollars at radio shack, i used one to cheat my old mazdaspeed protege fuel cutoff on my MAF. just have it intercept the TPS wire, and when there is enough vaccume, the switch will close and let the controller see the throttle wide open....i figure that is pretty easy, all you gotta do is hook it up to a VAC line on the manifold. just my 2 sense
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Come on Ray. You know it would really be best to inject nitrous into the exhaust. That intake stuff is sissy. It would be like an afterburner for a rotary!
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until you guys come up with a "danger to manifold" warning light you are screwed . Everyone that is anyone knows this ....
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Come on Ray. You know it would really be best to inject nitrous into the exhaust. That intake stuff is sissy. It would be like an afterburner for a rotary!
Great......now look what you did!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PJJcTHp8f8&translated=1

I'm kidding people!
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that was the video from the Dyno Day that no one was supposed to see!!!
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Originally Posted by Mazurfer
Great......now look what you did!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PJJcTHp8f8&translated=1

I'm kidding people!
holy crap, LOL.
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Why not reprogram the injectors using throttle position?

It seems when you punch it at low RPM it builds up pressure too fast, so regulate the injector using the tables via Access Port.
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The injectors are not the issue. They are fine in there set up.
The issue is that the N2O system puts fuel into the UIM. Unless you have enough manifold vacuum to draw it in in vapor form, it will puddle in the UIM. This is the issue.
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It's the simple aspect that the UIM was designed to flow air and not liquid. Nitrous backfires are a danger in any vehicle when used in a non-direct port setup because of the UIM design.

Erick, it would be a benifit for us to look into a 2 stage system for you and experiment with that. If it's RPM based, we simply set the first stage to spray maybe 50% less and once you hit 3,500 or 4,000 it would kick over to pull spray.
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Originally Posted by Flashwing
It's the simple aspect that the UIM was designed to flow air and not liquid. Nitrous backfires are a danger in any vehicle when used in a non-direct port setup because of the UIM design.

Erick, it would be a benifit for us to look into a 2 stage system for you and experiment with that. If it's RPM based, we simply set the first stage to spray maybe 50% less and once you hit 3,500 or 4,000 it would kick over to pull spray.
My own team is making things WAY more complicated than they need to be. We haven't proven a damned thing as being the reason for lost manifolds, except for ONE.........
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Easy's Right Foot.
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Like Jeff always says, "I consider my job to be making stupid painful." The only thing experiencing pain in these cases is my supply cabinet as easy raids it for intake parts all the time!
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My own team is making things WAY more complicated than they need to be. We haven't proven a damned thing as being the reason for lost manifolds, except for ONE.........
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Easy's Right Foot.
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Like Jeff always says, "I consider my job to be making stupid painful." The only thing experiencing pain in these cases is my supply cabinet as easy raids it for intake parts all the time!
I see how it is!

Kick a man while he's down.
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Originally Posted by Easy_E1
I see how it is!

Kick a man while he's down.
duh.. he's right by your foot.


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