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Old 11-16-2004, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
how old is this guy, and how old is his brother? just curious I think I'd puke if they were 17 and 19 years old
Hahaha. Well actually i am 19 and my broher is 22. But i don't want to hear a bunch of s@#t about how we are spoiled and crap because we know it. its not like i am trying to rub it in. i just want to share the excitement.
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Sup man....just wanted to kno where your located...If u mean Athens, GA then im not too far from u...maybe we can set up a meet or something for all Atlanta 8's.....
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Originally Posted by Gord96BRG
Great pics - I especially wanted to thank you for NOT posting any picks of the Escalade! :p My suggestion for next new car in your family - dump the Escalade ASAP, and buy a CAR, not a TRUCK, to replace it! :D

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Actually thats kindof hard to do. We have a rather large family and need somehing we can haul everyone around in for like vacations and things like that. And why would you want to ge rid of an Escalade when you can pimp that thing out?
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Originally Posted by midnightxodiex
Sup man....just wanted to kno where your located...If u mean Athens, GA then im not too far from u...maybe we can set up a meet or something for all Atlanta 8's.....
Yeah. We live in Athens GA. If you come here for the GA GT game then i will meet you somewhere. I don't know how he would feel about driving it to atlanta though. I would do it but i doubt people are as interested in my car.
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Originally Posted by SlashMatrix
Hahaha. Well actually i am 19 and my broher is 22. But i don't want to hear a bunch of s@#t about how we are spoiled and crap because we know it. its not like i am trying to rub it in. i just want to share the excitement.
I'm glad you understand how fortunate you are...now keep the pics coming

BTW your 8 is the nicest of them all the lotus is mearly a toy, your RX-8 is a car that will provide you with far more enjoyment

also if you get a Lotus at 22 that qualifies you as a terd, the RX-8 as an enthusiast :p (just making sure you know you have the better car, because when it comes down to it, the lotus is just a toyota with a fancy shell ) :p
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Originally Posted by Hellbreed
I like the Elise but I wish they didn't put the Toyota engine in it in North American version.
What other engine would you have in there? The Toyota 2ZZ-GE engine is perfect for the Elise. It's all-aluminum and is one of the highest performing engines in regards to power-to-weight ratios. It only makes 190 hp, but the key to this car is the weight.
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Nice cars! Why don't you join some of us and our RX8s at Road Atlanta on Dec 11th? Of course all cars are welcome (maybe with the exception of the Escalade). The thread is here https://www.rx8club.com/se-rx-8-forum-30/december-track-day-events-se-42133/ for info including costs and how to register.
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Actually i need to put a spoiler on my car. $225 is a little steep for me. If i don't go to that then i get a spoiler for like another $100. So i choose to get a spoiler instead of an adrenaline rush. Plus that is too close to christmas for me. Presents are expensive.
And thanks Truemagellen. Believe me i know. The elise would be fun to drive every now and then (like me ) but i couldn't drive it all the time. He does have an old Blazer he is going to drive also. As far as the engine. It doesn't need anymore then that. Plus if they didn't give it that engine where would you take the car to get it serviced?
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Originally Posted by SlashMatrix
Hahaha. Well actually i am 19 and my broher is 22. But i don't want to hear a bunch of s@#t about how we are spoiled and crap because we know it. its not like i am trying to rub it in. i just want to share the excitement.
That's the kind of honesty we like to hear... instead of the typical little brat that says they DESERVE it because they got good grades. :P I'm all for having parents spoiling their kids, that's their perogative.

Lotus does look cool though... But not sure how much it would stand out here in So Cali... when I would go to work, I would see a few Ferraris, bunch of fixed up Escalades with 30" rims, etc etc. It's tough to impress here. I use to think 100k for a car was rare... but it seems everyone and their moms has a C55 AMG Benz or a Porsche. Blah.
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Originally Posted by Hellbreed
I like the Elise but I wish they didn't put the Toyota engine in it in North American version.
They didn't just put it in the North American version. The Toyota-engined Elise is available in ALL markets as the top model in the range. It's a far, far better power plant than the Rover lump they used previously, which had only one good attribute (light weight). All the UK magazines rave about the Toyota-engined version being the best Elise ever, by a large margin.

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What other engine would you have in there? The Toyota 2ZZ-GE engine is perfect for the Elise. It's all-aluminum and is one of the highest performing engines in regards to power-to-weight ratios. It only makes 190 hp, but the key to this car is the weight.
umm what website do you think you are on...

I was refering to a rotary engine, specifically the Renesis...which is even lighter than the Toyota engine, and putting out far more power...put that in the light chassis of the elise and you'll have a rocket
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Thanks for the pics- the Lotus is absolutely stunning... I briefly thought about holding out a year for one, but the impracticality (having 2 kids and another on the way) won out. Not that I regret the RX-8 at all... but I bet the Lotus even makes a Miata feel like a lead sled.

Curious though about the color- has to be hard for a Dawg to drive around in Gator blue :D
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
umm what website do you think you are on...

I was refering to a rotary engine, specifically the Renesis...which is even lighter than the Toyota engine, and putting out far more power...put that in the light chassis of the elise and you'll have a rocket
Not a bad idea.

I think I would prefer BMW's new V10
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More Pictures! yaaaaaaaay.
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A lot of them messed up because my camera sucks. So more pictures tomorrow. But look at how freaking small the gas pedal is. I thought that would be a pain in the @$$ but it is actually very comfortable. These also have some fat door hinges and there is a reflector on the door that you can only see when its open. Never seen that before. But it may be common.
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Wow, I'll say one thing for the Lotus -- it doesn't mind taking some design risks. If you thought the RX-8 or 350Z was a love it or leave it design, the Elise has that in spades. I have to say I think I like the RX-8 styling better -- less spartan, more functional, more graceful.

It looks like the Elise doesn't have any cup holders or storage space. And the Elise hood vent is pretty controversial -- that's either the ugliest or most beautiful hood ever, no in between.

But hey, if your dad wants to adopt me, I wouldn't mind having an Elise, too!

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The Elise is freaking beautiful! I would love to drive that baby.
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Wow, I'll say one thing for the Lotus -- it doesn't mind taking some design risks. If you thought the RX-8 or 350Z was a love it or leave it design, the Elise has that in spades. I have to say I think I like the RX-8 styling better -- less spartan, more functional, more graceful.

It looks like the Elise doesn't have any cup holders or storage space. And the Elise hood vent is pretty controversial -- that's either the ugliest or most beautiful hood ever, no in between.

But hey, if your dad wants to adopt me, I wouldn't mind having an Elise, too!
yeah it has no cup holders. I guess they took out anything you don't exactly need to reduce the weight. You know those cup holders add on a whopping half a pound and reduce the speed of the car by .001 of a second . can't have that. This isn't a luxury car. its a race car :D :D :D
And i love the hood. it just looks mean. i like the lights too,
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that elise is unbelievably skimp in the interior considering the price of $44k, but I guess it would have to in order to achieve race-class handling and the power to weight ratio.

I would absolutely love to drive it on a track, it's what it was born to do. But I wouldn't risk driving it on 405.. Too many crazy drivers, I wouldn't want to be in that car when an escalade or raised F-350 cuts me off because they either can't see me, don't give a crap, or drive like crap (or all three).
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Sweet pics dude, congrats.

I love the Lotus Elise.
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SlashMatrix, let's see how that Elise looks at night with the lights switched on. Those headlights are freaking me out!
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I will see what i can do. Again the camera sucks so there is no telling what it will look like. But i will do that and get pics of the guages and cd/mp3 player so you can really see them.
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Just thought of something scary the Elise with a rotarty engine? Think about it the Elise currently uses a Toyota sourced engine, pull it and put in a rotarty, smaller lighter, higer reving, more HP for sure, take a car that already weights under a ton and knock an nother 50-100 lbs off of it, while adding more power, scray stuff. To bad it won't happen. Oh well out of my price range anyway but have fun in the twisties.
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Nice car collection , all at halve the price we are forced to pay here in Australia .

Lotus elise $110,000approx

Mazda RX8 $60.000 aprox

350Z$ 60.000

cheers
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Originally Posted by Gord96BRG
.... It's a far, far better power plant than the Rover lump they used previously, which had only one good attribute (light weight). All the UK magazines rave about the Toyota-engined version being the best Elise ever, by a large margin.

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Maybe you're right, but don't underestimate the 160hp version. It was considerably lighter (no electric windows, no a/c and some other stuff) and it was very cool looking too, better than the 190 version in my opinion. It had great looking superlight rims and two exhaust tips, like our 8 has...

Performance difference is not that big. Basically the 190 version came out to compete with the turbo 200hp version of Opel's 'Speedster' (or named VX220 in the UK). When I lived in the UK, I saw numerous tuners making FI versions of both Rover engines (120&160). Now that engineering was worth paying for

Still, all Elises are a blast to drive... even the 120hp one...


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