My drive with 4 Elises today...
05-31-2005, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by LostAngel
Maybe they realised that the 2zz engine is a really good engine? Not MANY engines can produce 100hp per liter stock. Even though the 2zz engine is gutless in the low rpm's until it reaches lift (lift = when the cams switch over to a more aggressive set), in a car that weighs around 2000lbs, it makes for a fun car. The 2zz engine was developed by yamaha and toyota uses them. The early engines (2000 - 2002) had weak lift bolts (when you get to a higher rpm, oil pressure presses these lift bolts up letting more air/exhaust come in and out of the engine. The 2003 - 2005 engines had stronger lift bolts, but many complained due to these engines having Drive By Wire which made it impossible to put an aftermarket Chip in the car.
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05-31-2005, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by vectorwolf
I told OnRails to PM you and let you know about the drive. I think he said he never received a response. Hope you got the message?? Could've used another 8 out there. :D
05-31-2005, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by LostAngel
Actually, though it has 10 more hp, that is crank hp. So it relates to having about 1-2 hp more to the wheels I believe. Also, the 160-168hp is correct for the FWD celica, but in a RWD vehicle more horsepower is lost from crank to the wheels.
05-31-2005, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Aseras
chop 1,000 lbs out of an rx8 and see what happens. elsie/exige are nice but they are stripped, totally barebones. they feel like a go cart more than a car.
05-31-2005, 08:18 PM
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2zz-ge
I don't post much in the forums, since I don't have an RX-8 yet, but since the topic touched on the 2ZZ-GE engine my Matrix has in it, I thought I could say something. :D The engine's not gutless before 6200 RPM, it just has a noticable kick when lift comes in. But the Elise' CPU has been retimed so lift comes in lower and more smoothly, as well as dropping lower during shifting so you don't have to spin the wheels or slip the clutch to stay in lift on the 1-2 shift.
The Matrix runs 15.7ish stock, and the Elise lops 1,000 lbs off of that.
There is no driveshaft, as it uses the same transmission as the Matrix, and simply moves the entire engine/tranny assembly into the rear to drive the rear wheels.
It'd be a cool car if I wasn't taller than 5' 5".
The Matrix runs 15.7ish stock, and the Elise lops 1,000 lbs off of that.
There is no driveshaft, as it uses the same transmission as the Matrix, and simply moves the entire engine/tranny assembly into the rear to drive the rear wheels.
It'd be a cool car if I wasn't taller than 5' 5".
05-31-2005, 08:46 PM
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I like the Elise although I like the 2007 models shape better they look like they are getting rid of all the crap that is going on all over the front end, it's too cluttered for me. The 2007 looks more sleek it is a simpler design.
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...07+lotus+elise
https://www.rx8club.com/showthread.p...07+lotus+elise
05-31-2005, 08:58 PM
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Did I miss read was this in the speed magazine as a photoshop, I'm not challenging your pic but I haven't seen the pic you just showed until now so I'm curious if I didn't read the entire article in the mag. I'm going to look for it now. I'll let you know what I find but I scanned that pic that's why it's grainy.
Here I knew I wasn't imagining things. Why do they look so similar though. I just scanned this out of the mag "Speed" that debut the white supercharged RX8 why would they lie? Do mags usually do that lie just to get hype for their articles, remember I'm asking not being sarcastic, it's hard to tell sometimes on the internet what emotion someone is expressing.
Here I knew I wasn't imagining things. Why do they look so similar though. I just scanned this out of the mag "Speed" that debut the white supercharged RX8 why would they lie? Do mags usually do that lie just to get hype for their articles, remember I'm asking not being sarcastic, it's hard to tell sometimes on the internet what emotion someone is expressing.
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05-31-2005, 10:10 PM
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I can see what your saying! Wow, but do you think that the "Speed" magazine had anything to do with it, I mean they did have the spied Mazdaspeed article on the front cover and this vehicle is a real car.
05-31-2005, 10:23 PM
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If I were too get an Elise (which I was thinking about... when they finally get things straightened out her in Canada), theres only one color for me... british racing green.
05-31-2005, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by WeekendWarrior
It'd be a cool car if I wasn't taller than 5' 5".
06-01-2005, 12:04 AM
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True it looks like the Bradley GT's that I sold over 20 years ago.
That's one reason I don't like the looks.
Gee if they made it any cheaper you might have to prop the drivers door open with a stick to get in and out.
True it looks like the Bradley GT's that I sold over 20 years ago.
That's one reason I don't like the looks.
Gee if they made it any cheaper you might have to prop the drivers door open with a stick to get in and out.
06-01-2005, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Razz1
Kit car ..........
True it looks like the Bradley GT's that I sold over 20 years ago.
That's one reason I don't like the looks.
Gee if they made it any cheaper you might have to prop the drivers door open with a stick to get in and out.
True it looks like the Bradley GT's that I sold over 20 years ago.
That's one reason I don't like the looks.
Gee if they made it any cheaper you might have to prop the drivers door open with a stick to get in and out.
06-05-2005, 09:17 PM
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An Elise may be in the future for me too, although probably about 10 years in the future. Maybe then I'll have enough money to buy one and a daily driver if I need one of those too. Those Ariel Atoms are looking nice too though.
06-05-2005, 09:30 PM
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Interior looks cool, but those things are ugly
06-05-2005, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Rotarian_SC
An Elise may be in the future for me too, although probably about 10 years in the future. Maybe then I'll have enough money to buy one and a daily driver if I need one of those too. Those Ariel Atoms are looking nice too though.
I fully expect to have one of these in 10 years... www.moller.com
06-05-2005, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ellar
I'm not anti-Toyota. I'm sure it's a well-built 4-banger. I'd just have more respect for a Lotus7/Caterham Super 7 rip-off with Toyota badges and that engine in it (at a Toyota price).
Havent had the chance to take out an Elise for a drive but however I do often get to take a Lotus 7 out once in awhile. My friends g-pa has one and we just took it out of his storage garage. Possibly a buildup project for this summer. Ill come back with updates when we find out.
06-12-2005, 11:17 AM
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the lotus will pull an 8 on the straight, however with a decent sent of tires the 8 will stay with it in the turns. I know there are some at road atlanta .But look how much money we save! Plus the practicallity. etc. It's just a differant type of car.
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06-14-2005, 08:24 PM
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vectorwolf, I think you blue 8 snuggles in pretty nicely with those guys without looking out of place. I know that was a blast tooling around with em.
I watched an Elise chase a RX8 (rxeightr) around Road Atlanta for about 5 laps before it was able to take it. Maybe it is faster but not that much. I guess you could also blame that on the driver. Actually I have video of it.
I watched an Elise chase a RX8 (rxeightr) around Road Atlanta for about 5 laps before it was able to take it. Maybe it is faster but not that much. I guess you could also blame that on the driver. Actually I have video of it.