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Old 05-04-2005, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Outlaws eXtreme
I'm totally lost on where that came from... please re-read the thread again please. Nowhere did I mention that a car has a wing would someone NOT buy it... I said if someone wanted a wing that big, they may have wanted to buy a STI or an EVO. Nothing wrong with wings.... just don't go overboard.

Also not all Veilside is "extreme"... you really have to see the kit in person. It's not that bad... the wing is bad. But the kit isn't bad. I've seen it on Shawrf's car and it looks really nice. For a Show car it's nice. For an everyday driver, prolly not, wouldn't be practical. Besides, my point to him was that just because he was going with a Veilside kit, doesn't mean he must get a Veilside wing.
read yours then read mine, it makes plenty of sense to me, you just need to excercise your thinking skills a little bit(not that im calling you stupid or anything). your statement
"we don't like the high jumbo wing in the back. If we did, we may have gone out and bought a STI or a EVO VIII." implys that if we liked the big high jumbo wing, some of us would have gotten the car, not anything else attributed to its charachteristics, you just stated because of the wing. therefore you implied we are basing our judgements of cars based on how big/ugly their spoiler is. you may not have intended it, but that is what you implied
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Originally Posted by truemagellen
all I've got to say is...money doesn't always buy class

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im talking about import car shows in california, not the stuff you do in texas. believe me, i dont sit online and look at pictures of car shows. i go to them, and i live in los angeles CA, and am very close to some of the birthplaces of import tuning in america. ive been to enough GOOD shows to know what GOOD show cars are like. sure you can build a nice setup and everything but nowadays you NEED that kind of stuff to stay competitive in california.
I'm not just talking about Texas, I was talking about national stuff, I will admit most of my experience as far as working shows is here in Texas, but they were national shows with vehicles from all over the country. I still don't agree that you need that stuff to stay competitive, if you do then that is the mark of a pathetic show, outside the world of Cali import shows, you need impeccable workmanship, flawless paint, immaculate engine bays, and the bottom of the car cleaner than the top, not just frills and thrills and stuff thrown on all over the place. More isn't always better

edit: I'm not trying to make this a flame war or offend you, i just don't agree with your view of show vehicles, and the only reason I disagree is because my actual hands on experience has shown me different, my bad if you take any of this the wrong way.
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I'm not just talking about Texas, I was talking about national stuff, I will admit most of my experience as far as working shows is here in Texas, but they were national shows with vehicles from all over the country. I still don't agree that you need that stuff to stay competitive, if you do then that is the mark of a pathetic show, outside the world of Cali import shows, you need impeccable workmanship, flawless paint, immaculate engine bays, and the bottom of the car cleaner than the top, not just frills and thrills and stuff thrown on all over the place. More isn't always better

edit: I'm not trying to make this a flame war or offend you, i just don't agree with your view of show vehicles, and the only reason I disagree is because my actual hands on experience has shown me different, my bad if you take any of this the wrong way.
hey, to tell you the truth i think alot of these cars are REDICULOUS and i never said whats here is what i like! this is not my personal VIEW of show vehicles rather the facts of what you need to stay competitive in large modern import tuner oriented car shows in california, i dont tell people what and what not to do to their show cars this is what i've gathered from going to countless import shows and seeing countless cars being judged here, thats all
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Ok beats me on this thread.. somehow I'm confused. I'm beginning to like the look of Pure stock cars myself... :P
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I dont know how someone can just buy a veilside kit and win 1st place... i mean is that it? so does that mean i can just dish out maybe 6000 dollars, get a full body kit and a wing and win first place?! wow! that must be a great feeling i mean... he probably didnt even install the kit himself...

honestly i think you deserve a prize if you've customized your car or done some really nice mismatching of kits, but if you just go out and buy one veilside full body kit, you dont deserve a trophy. If your gonna go to shows and compete, do something unoriginal and maybe customize your own kit or mix-match some stuff.

im 18 and i HATE that wing. what engine mods do you have? suspension mods?
Old 05-05-2005, 10:06 AM
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lol @ eleventeen

An actual question here.... Are there any internal mods to the car? I'm talking intakes, suspension upgrades, a turbo, etc.? And I don't just mean dropping it an inch and a half.
When I see a car with a kit like this, and no modificaitons under the hood, I think "What a f'in waste. All flash, no dash." If I'm at a car show, and I see a car that looks very similar to stock, that's the one I'm going to be attracted to most, because it is likely there's going to be something special under the hood of that car (not that there isn't in cars with a body kit).
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Originally Posted by spddmn01
just to prove a point...hah...no matter what you guys say... especially Mugatu...i dont give a sh*t...as long as i kno i be winning awards from REAL judges...thats all that matters...im just posting up pix to let you guys know what a real show car looks like..not no street ricers you see on here...i bet Mugatu is just hatin on me cuz he's jealous his car doesnt look like mine..haha...but i leave that aside...everyone gets there chance...and the girls...they were brought over to me by a sponsor..soo i really had no choice...ohh and btw i was just tryna be a good member to this forum...try to uhhhh...make RX-8 owners kno that their cars can compete in shows too and WIN just like me...as long as you work hard on it...but i guess some people on this forum are just too envyous..hahaha...you might wanna get that checked out...baddddd for your heath...
How old are you? I'm guessing 16-17...

Did your mommy and daddy pay for all your mods?
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Not my stlye but its not my car. If you're happy thats all that matters.
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car is ok except for the wing. anyway, who cares what others think? if you're going to post something, don't have an attitude about it. ppl are going to flame you just cause. what kind of wing is that anyway? anymore mods in the works?
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Originally Posted by StealthFox
hey, to tell you the truth i think alot of these cars are REDICULOUS and i never said whats here is what i like! this is not my personal VIEW of show vehicles rather the facts of what you need to stay competitive in large modern import tuner oriented car shows in california, i dont tell people what and what not to do to their show cars this is what i've gathered from going to countless import shows and seeing countless cars being judged here, thats all
that's cool, I can see what you're saying now and that makes a bit more sense, It's pretty sad that they have the more is better standard at these shows, it would force people to really be creative if the standard was set higher, but then again it would also scare a lot people away if they knew they had to actually do something cool, instead of just slapping on a ton of stuff :D
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what's wrong with you guys here man????
what's wrong with his car anyway???? it's his car afterall, he can do anything he like
i do believe most of you here looks STOCK, that's why you hate seeing monster looking rx8 like this one.
and i think his car look way better stock, the blue the carbon fiber and the veilside.....
it's perfect, what's wrong with it? i really don't see any problem, yea i admit those chick are very ugly they looks like ****** in thailand. but it's all about the car , the wing looks good, what's wrong with it? you call it rice if it's not functional, but if it's from veilside, you'd better believe it's all about AERODYNAMIC, this kit is rated very high in both quality and look in japan. for people who think this car looks RICE, or WHACK, simply pass this thread and move on , if you think round and smilely front end is your cup of tea then stay with it forever. if you think wings are rice then don't look at it.
and yea maybe he's really 17 or 18 and his parent pay for all of those, but at least his parent can afford it. what's wrong with parent buy stuff for son??????????????
i've seen a guy here on the forum whos parent buy the car for him, i don't see he got shoot like this one does.
my last point is, are you willing to put 7-8K on your car like he does? if not, then just stick with your stock cute smilely and shut the F' up. at least he got himself into the show and win ! can you !!???
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Originally Posted by rx8spiritR
what's wrong with you guys here man????
what's wrong with his car anyway???? it's his car afterall, he can do anything he like
i do believe most of you here looks STOCK, that's why you hate seeing monster looking rx8 like this one.
and i think his car look way better stock, the blue the carbon fiber and the veilside.....
it's perfect, what's wrong with it? i really don't see any problem, yea i admit those chick are very ugly they looks like ****** in thailand. but it's all about the car , the wing looks good, what's wrong with it? you call it rice if it's not functional, but if it's from veilside, you'd better believe it's all about AERODYNAMIC, this kit is rated very high in both quality and look in japan. for people who think this car looks RICE, or WHACK, simply pass this thread and move on , if you think round and smilely front end is your cup of tea then stay with it forever. if you think wings are rice then don't look at it.
and yea maybe he's really 17 or 18 and his parent pay for all of those, but at least his parent can afford it. what's wrong with parent buy stuff for son??????????????
i've seen a guy here on the forum whos parent buy the car for him, i don't see he got shoot like this one does.
my last point is, are you willing to put 7-8K on your car like he does? if not, then just stick with your stock cute smilely and shut the F' up. at least he got himself into the show and win ! can you !!???
All show no go is WHACK and is the definition of PURE RICE.....plain and simple.

That wing is hideous, no if,and or buts about it.
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Since you asked for it...

Not sure if English is your first language or what, but can you please learn to use some proper grammar? At least try? The way you're typing, I'm not sure if you are trying to sound "3l33t k00l d00d" talk or what.

Nothing is wrong with his car. It's his car. Like you said, I'm sure his parents forked over the money for his car. No biggy there. But if you read the thread, you would notice that he is getting ridiculed because of how he thinks his car is better than anyone else's... as if he did some work to it. Instead of being modest, and accepting some critisms, he bashes people by saying he's an authority of fixed up cars. Sadly that is what you get when you're naive and spoiled... you think you're invincible and the world is your oyester. He ASSumes like YOU do, that we are jealous in anyway. (Pause) Think about that for a second.

1) Majority of us own the same car, so how can we be jealous?

2) Most of us bought the car ourselves, so OBVIOUSLY we have money to spend on modifications.

3) If we can afford the same things he can, yet we don't spend money like he did, why would we be jealous?

Ok... see, easy right?

To you his car is perfect. To others, it's not. It's called an opinion. No Biggy.

Please read the thread more throroughly before making more asinine comments.

Originally Posted by rx8spiritR
what's wrong with you guys here man????
what's wrong with his car anyway???? it's his car afterall, he can do anything he like
i do believe most of you here looks STOCK, that's why you hate seeing monster looking rx8 like this one.
and i think his car look way better stock, the blue the carbon fiber and the veilside.....
it's perfect, what's wrong with it? i really don't see any problem, yea i admit those chick are very ugly they looks like ****** in thailand. but it's all about the car , the wing looks good, what's wrong with it? you call it rice if it's not functional, but if it's from veilside, you'd better believe it's all about AERODYNAMIC, this kit is rated very high in both quality and look in japan. for people who think this car looks RICE, or WHACK, simply pass this thread and move on , if you think round and smilely front end is your cup of tea then stay with it forever. if you think wings are rice then don't look at it.
and yea maybe he's really 17 or 18 and his parent pay for all of those, but at least his parent can afford it. what's wrong with parent buy stuff for son??????????????
i've seen a guy here on the forum whos parent buy the car for him, i don't see he got shoot like this one does.
my last point is, are you willing to put 7-8K on your car like he does? if not, then just stick with your stock cute smilely and shut the F' up. at least he got himself into the show and win ! can you !!???
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Originally Posted by rx8spiritR
what's wrong with you guys here man????
what's wrong with his car anyway???? it's his car afterall, he can do anything he like
i do believe most of you here looks STOCK, that's why you hate seeing monster looking rx8 like this one.
and i think his car look way better stock, the blue the carbon fiber and the veilside.....
it's perfect, what's wrong with it? i really don't see any problem, yea i admit those chick are very ugly they looks like ****** in thailand. but it's all about the car , the wing looks good, what's wrong with it? you call it rice if it's not functional, but if it's from veilside, you'd better believe it's all about AERODYNAMIC, this kit is rated very high in both quality and look in japan. for people who think this car looks RICE, or WHACK, simply pass this thread and move on , if you think round and smilely front end is your cup of tea then stay with it forever. if you think wings are rice then don't look at it.
and yea maybe he's really 17 or 18 and his parent pay for all of those, but at least his parent can afford it. what's wrong with parent buy stuff for son??????????????
i've seen a guy here on the forum whos parent buy the car for him, i don't see he got shoot like this one does.
my last point is, are you willing to put 7-8K on your car like he does? if not, then just stick with your stock cute smilely and shut the F' up. at least he got himself into the show and win ! can you !!???
lol, this is some funny crap
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the guy who started this thread has not posted since like page 3.

to the owner of this 8
your car is custom and that is good

you dont have to defend your ride or brag
let the car speak for itself

its kinda like people who brag about having tons of money when they dont
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Originally Posted by canaryrx8
that's cool, I can see what you're saying now and that makes a bit more sense, It's pretty sad that they have the more is better standard at these shows, it would force people to really be creative if the standard was set higher, but then again it would also scare a lot people away if they knew they had to actually do something cool, instead of just slapping on a ton of stuff :D
yeah you need like 60k to drop into your car to win a trophy nowadays, on top of having crazy connections
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Originally Posted by rx8spiritR
it's perfect, what's wrong with it? i really don't see any problem, yea i admit those chick are very ugly they looks like ****** in thailand. but it's all about the car , the wing looks good, what's wrong with it? you call it rice if it's not functional, but if it's from veilside, you'd better believe it's all about AERODYNAMIC, this kit is rated very high in both quality and look in japan. for people who think this car looks RICE, or WHACK, simply pass this thread and move on , if you think round and smilely front end is your cup of tea then stay with it forever. if you think wings are rice then don't look at it.
1. He posted it with a cocky attitude that said "hey, i'm going to slap them all in the face with this" so we are going to look at it, criticize it and have opinions about it. It became everyone's right when he posted this thread.

2. Just because something is made by veilside doesnt mean it's aerodynamic or even appropriate for the car. That wing is anything but aerodynamic. The downforce it would create would be appropriate for a car with 5x the horsepower of a stock RX8 and even then it'd still be ridiculous. The only thing his car is gaining from that wing is weight. Quality and looks does not always equal aerodynamics.

3. The guy modded his car and won a trophy and here he is sharing pictures of that fact with us. Good for him. His attitude about it sucks, but hey, what can we do about that?
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Originally Posted by TR1GGERx1
guys this is just non sense flame war. to each of their freakin own. people will like it or not like it. let them talk. just don't take it up the butt. people have opinions about what they like and don't like. some like what he has and doesnt have. some hate it all the way. so who cares man. just cause theres "show and no go?" who kares. some people like it that way. it isnt whack. let them be. stop flaming guys. its annoying to see that the "matures" are acting like the 16-17year old. but hey spddemon or wutever. u need to chill with the 50 cent talk cause its not 18 street downtown LA here.
i really dont consider this a flame war.
There were a few very slanted remarks made but if i considered it a flame war i would've closed it.
The main reason it's still open is because people are stating their opinion and the flaming has ceased.
As far as matures acting like 16-17 year olds, it didnt start off as a very mature thread and so it's only a downward spiral from there.
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I think it's rather mature for a thread like this. Ajax pin pointed it on the details of how this thread got offtrack. It's basically him expressing his opinions.. other people expressing their opinions... then he comes back, bashes us for not liking the same thing he does, expects us to be like him, calls one of the members out on how a "REAL" show car should look like, etc etc...

But it's not a flame war...
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Originally Posted by rx8spiritR
what's wrong with you guys here man????
what's wrong with his car anyway???? it's his car afterall, he can do anything he like
i do believe most of you here looks STOCK, that's why you hate seeing monster looking rx8 like this one.
and i think his car look way better stock, the blue the carbon fiber and the veilside.....
it's perfect, what's wrong with it? i really don't see any problem, yea i admit those chick are very ugly they looks like ****** in thailand. but it's all about the car , the wing looks good, what's wrong with it? you call it rice if it's not functional, but if it's from veilside, you'd better believe it's all about AERODYNAMIC, this kit is rated very high in both quality and look in japan. for people who think this car looks RICE, or WHACK, simply pass this thread and move on , if you think round and smilely front end is your cup of tea then stay with it forever. if you think wings are rice then don't look at it.
and yea maybe he's really 17 or 18 and his parent pay for all of those, but at least his parent can afford it. what's wrong with parent buy stuff for son??????????????
i've seen a guy here on the forum whos parent buy the car for him, i don't see he got shoot like this one does.
my last point is, are you willing to put 7-8K on your car like he does? if not, then just stick with your stock cute smilely and shut the F' up. at least he got himself into the show and win ! can you !!???
Yeah, the whole point of the internet is just to make positive comments and complement everyone. If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it, right?

My favorite quote of yours:
and i think his car look way better stock
:D I agree!!


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