Turboed Feed Rx8 vs EG Civic
#28
Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
well deedubb.. youre gona need some go to match the amount of sho. lol
#29
hmmm, so let me get this straight, a 10+ year old model (development wise) which is over 400kg lighter yet only has 60 less hp, on a rainy road with fwd, beat a heavier car with less than 3 years in development and rwd? wow, what a shocker
#31
EG's with motor swaps typically do well at road/ race events, time attack, expecially the bmi touge runs, there are so many tight turns and small roads, almost any civic with a properly tuned suspension, sticky tires with decent power 160whp should do farely well.
#32
hmmm, so let me get this straight, a 10+ year old model (development wise) which is over 400kg lighter yet only has 60 less hp, on a rainy road with fwd, beat a heavier car with less than 3 years in development and rwd? wow, what a shocker
Besides, that Civic had a painted interior. That's good for 50WHP!!!!
#34
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From: Misinformation Director - Evolv Chicago
Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
.... and a FD would whoop a RX8 anyday.
#38
Originally Posted by crimson-rain
good call. Civics have been around forever, heck the FD has been around for a while too. Give the 8 time. Let FEED retune the suspension for PTP's kit and see what would happen then. Or have THE NEW GREDDY kit installed with the interceptor ... I mean come on, the sun has just risen for the 8.
Besides, that Civic had a painted interior. That's good for 50WHP!!!!
Besides, that Civic had a painted interior. That's good for 50WHP!!!!
#39
Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
.... and a FD would whoop a RX8 anyday.
Power, Weight, Suspension on all cars with enough time, technology and effort can be adjusted to extreme amounts. Holding all those constant between an FD and RX8 would make them equal yes?
no, because the RX-8 has a much, much better chasis than the FD. Very important in racing.
Granted my setup is completely hypothetical and to this day doesnt exist... you still can't disregard the RX8.
For Example,
just look at SCCA Autocrosses accross the nation.... RX-8s are faster on several occasions in B-Stock versus many FDs in Super Stock.
Last edited by BigOLundh; 06-29-2006 at 12:52 AM.
#40
I traded in a 2002 Honda Civic Si with a modded CRV engine for my 8. In stock form the CRV engine puts out 160hp/162tq. So with a few bolt ons you can easily see how a swapped civic could out run us off the line. However top end will be a different story. I have never been big on track or street racing so the 8 is just my cup of tea. Not the fastest thing off the line but moves in and out of traffic like a dream. The only things I don't like about the 8 are the weak tranny's and lack of trunk space. I haven't had any problems with my 05 with approx. 2500 miles but the tranny thing kinda scares me a bit. I don't beat on my car so hopefully I won't have any problems.
Overall I think the 8 is a very good car.......chicks dig it too.
Overall I think the 8 is a very good car.......chicks dig it too.
Last edited by 1stgen8; 06-29-2006 at 02:37 AM.
#41
Originally Posted by 1stgen8
I traded in a 2002 Honda Civic Si with a modded CRV engine for my 8. In stock form the CRV engine puts out 160hp/162tq. So with a few bolt ons you can easily see how a swapped civic could out run us off the line.
The traditional bolt ons (intake, headers, exhaust) on a stock civic motor will do virtually nothing.
In similar note, the other night a civic hatchback pulled on me and when he shifted threw a big puff of black smoke. I love N/A civic owners who take out their cats and think they have a beast. Just because you ran on me while i was driving my moms CRV at 20mph... does not mean you are fast.
#42
Originally Posted by BigOLundh
As much as i love you... i would have to disagree with that 100%.
Power, Weight, Suspension on all cars with enough time, technology and effort can be adjusted to extreme amounts. Holding all those constant between an FD and RX8 would make them equal yes?
no, because the RX-8 has a much, much better chasis than the FD. Very important in racing.
Granted my setup is completely hypothetical and to this day doesnt exist... you still can't disregard the RX8.
For Example,
just look at SCCA Autocrosses accross the nation.... RX-8s are faster on several occasions in B-Stock versus many FDs in Super Stock.
Power, Weight, Suspension on all cars with enough time, technology and effort can be adjusted to extreme amounts. Holding all those constant between an FD and RX8 would make them equal yes?
no, because the RX-8 has a much, much better chasis than the FD. Very important in racing.
Granted my setup is completely hypothetical and to this day doesnt exist... you still can't disregard the RX8.
For Example,
just look at SCCA Autocrosses accross the nation.... RX-8s are faster on several occasions in B-Stock versus many FDs in Super Stock.
#43
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Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
i guess we'll have to wait and see what kind of car a 8 will turn into in the next 5 years as the owners move on to newer toys leaving the 8s behind to real enthusiast just like the 7's but a lil later. but the rx8s chassis isnt that MUCH than the 7 but i have to agree its impressive considering what kind of abuse a stock chassis of a 8 can take up to and weighs rather light for a car its size (a full packaged touring FD weighs about the same as a base 8). but in the mean time i hope we can all get along as rotary lovers.
And I agree, once the warantees begin to expire is when the RX-8 group should embrace the aftermarket. Right now, we're in a tough position with such a new niche car and such limited options. But even if you want to get away from the chassis, the Renesis, imo, is a definite improvemnt vs. the REW. The REW's adavantage may be the ability to take extreme levels of boost on the 9:1 rotors vs. our 10:1 - strictly speaking of running pump gas, not race gas or xylene etc...
#49
Originally Posted by SayNoToPistons
i guess we'll have to wait and see what kind of car a 8 will turn into in the next 5 years as the owners move on to newer toys leaving the 8s behind to real enthusiast just like the 7's but a lil later. but the rx8s chassis isnt that MUCH than the 7 but i have to agree its impressive considering what kind of abuse a stock chassis of a 8 can take up to and weighs rather light for a car its size (a full packaged touring FD weighs about the same as a base 8). but in the mean time i hope we can all get along as rotary lovers.
Also, having so many FD enthusiasts still around has really helped me pesronally when building my 8. The knowledge they can provide is priceless. From my experience there are a lot of FD owners who's egos are too big to bother talking too, but for the most part... its been really positive and beneficial.
#50
Originally Posted by canaryrx8
hmmm, so let me get this straight, a 10+ year old model (development wise) which is over 400kg lighter yet only has 60 less hp, on a rainy road with fwd, beat a heavier car with less than 3 years in development and rwd? wow, what a shocker
i like the way you think.