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Old 03-26-2007 | 04:43 PM
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Non of the cars are the "REAL" car if you know what I mean. They are all tube frames. The Rx8 uses the same airodynamics but thats it. The motor is a NA 3 Rotor putting down approx. 419 wHP (quote from SpeedSource guys in the pits during last years race).

Anyways, I was actually there and watched the race literally 20 feet from the cars on the track!!!

I remember someone saying that the most action was in the last 7 minutes and you are correct. In the end the Porshe was only like 2 secounds behind the Rx8 and it was a major battle for like the last 5 laps or so. Sometimes the Porshe would get super close then the following lap he would be way back. I believe the Rx8 was leading for better part of the race but a prototype car got in the Rx8's way one time and the Porshe capitalized on it (this happened close to the end of the race).

I need to talk to Swoope cause he brought his camera and may have better pics than I as I took them on my camera phone. Either way I will post them this week.

KICK *** RACE!
Old 03-26-2007 | 05:15 PM
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very cool. thanks for sharing.
Old 03-26-2007 | 05:25 PM
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awesome clip!
Old 03-26-2007 | 06:09 PM
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When is this race at VIR you speak of? Give me a date a time and I'm soooo there dude!
April 28 at 8:30 on speed, it is taped delay, if you want to see life timing, I wont that spoils it, its better to watch the race without knowing what its going to happeng

all the info its here: http://www.grand-am.com/Events/Event.asp?ID=179
Old 03-26-2007 | 06:11 PM
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nice,

but i enjoyed the pass when he used the draft of the kodak gtp car to get back by the porsche.

it was a brilliant piece of driving by trembley..

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Old 03-26-2007 | 06:16 PM
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it was this close for 7 minutes.Pics of the end:
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Old 03-26-2007 | 07:42 PM
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Gotta LOVE IT!! This season is turning out to be GREAT for Speedsource, and the FANS.
WOOOHOOOO
Old 03-26-2007 | 10:35 PM
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******' awesome! Is that 20b all motor?
Old 03-26-2007 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
******' awesome! Is that 20b all motor?
do you read the thread, or get confused by the pics and video????

https://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php...1&postcount=23

right from this thread... cool aint it????

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Old 03-27-2007 | 12:34 AM
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OWNED. That's just effing great. How long is the race? I want to know when the end is so I can watch the good stuff. I have lots of studying for an exam the next day, so I can't watch the whole thing.
Old 03-27-2007 | 12:44 AM
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That was a great race, what time do they show the races? I always miss them..
Old 03-27-2007 | 12:53 AM
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Man that was a sweet win RX8 all the way!!!
Old 03-27-2007 | 01:18 AM
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brings a tear to my eye.
Old 03-27-2007 | 08:10 AM
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Swoope,

You got a PM.
Old 03-27-2007 | 08:19 AM
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great race
Old 03-27-2007 | 10:29 AM
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gotta watch the related clips as well- the cars coming out at 7stock 9- love the sound
Old 03-27-2007 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SlayerRX8
OWNED. That's just effing great. How long is the race? I want to know when the end is so I can watch the good stuff. I have lots of studying for an exam the next day, so I can't watch the whole thing.

2.5 hours. not a huge about of gt coverage... the prototypes had good racing the whole time..

the incar footage from the mazda is very cool.

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Old 03-27-2007 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
what do you think the porsche frame is
Actually, the porsches are the standard unibody production frame. They're even built on the standard 911 production line. That's why the porsche teams bitched about the RX8 and pontiacs as they are both dedicated tube-frame racecars whereas the porsches are modded street cars.

With that being said, the RX8 still kicks major ***!
Old 03-27-2007 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dillsrotary
what do you think the porsche frame is
I don't remember saying that the Porsche wasn't a tube frame car. I actually don't know if it is or isn't. In Grand Am Rolex GT I'm not that familiar with the cars' construction, but in Grand Am Koni Challenge (formerly Grand Am Cup), I can tell you that the GS and ST cars are not tube frame, and they closer resemble production cars.

I did quick research on GT cars at Wikipedia.

For 2005, the Grand Touring (GT) and Super Grand Sport (SGS) classes were consolidated into a single GT class, which features high-tech sports car models approved by Grand-Am like the Chevrolet Corvette, Porsche 911 GT3 Cup, Ferrari 360 Modena, and BMW M3. However, new rules introduced in 2005, commonly referred to as Prep2, allow for the introduction of tube-frame, purpose-built cars into the class. The first examples of these are Pontiac GTOs campaigned by Horizon Motorsports and The Racer's Group and 3-Rotor Mazda RX-8s campaigned by Speedsource.

Maybe the Porsche was not tube frame? Hmmm.
Old 03-27-2007 | 02:50 PM
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i thought that the porsches werent allowed to be modded at all?
Old 03-27-2007 | 02:55 PM
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their engines are sealed by porsche from the factory. They dont have to be modded (2007 GA version), they're cars designed by porsche to compete specifically in the series, its got rollcage, tuned engine, racing brakes, etc etc from the factory, so these cars are 100% factory backed.

These are 911 GT3 "CUP" cars, very different from the road going 911 GT3.

I wouldnt say its unfair, GA tries hard to balance all the cars. Although the RX-8 now won two in a row, it was a result of some very hard work from speedsource. The cars battled until the end, so i'd say they are pretty balanced, the farnbacher loles that got passed in the video were on worn tires, thats why it was passed easily by the 3-rotor. The porsches are able to turn a lot faster laps than the 8 on fresh rubber.
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Old 03-27-2007 | 03:24 PM
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if they keep the gt class only to unibody cars it would limit the field only to a hand full of car makes like porche, ferrari, lamborghini and maybe corvette, the other unibodys in the series are not doing very good, the thing is that porche has 15 years of dominance in this class without much challenge, now they have to get up to the competition or move to another series

if they want to be lightter they can use a smaller engine, most international racing bodyes see the 20b as a 3000cc engine and I think GA does too

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Old 03-27-2007 | 06:45 PM
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Wow, what are the downsides to the three rotor? I wonder why it was never used in place of the Renesis or the other 13b's. Is it not streetable at that power level?
Old 03-27-2007 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Wow, what are the downsides to the three rotor? I wonder why it was never used in place of the Renesis or the other 13b's. Is it not streetable at that power level?
A 20B will never be street legal. At least the way I'd have it

Great vid. I love these races.

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Old 03-27-2007 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 9krpmrx8
Wow, what are the downsides to the three rotor? I wonder why it was never used in place of the Renesis or the other 13b's. Is it not streetable at that power level?
Emissions and gas mileage.


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